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No Alphabets 4.5.2 — Baldur's Gate 3

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TLDR: This mod turn NPCs that does not fit medieval sensibilities (i.e. LGBTQ) into regular citizens of Faerûn.


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"No Alphabets" mod pack ensures that the gender and sexuality of world NPCs match medieval status quo. It leverages the power of Voice AI to alter 1 major, 4 quest-related and 22+ minor NPCs. Where relevant, everything related to an NPC's identity have been altered i.e. appearance, voice, SFX, subtitles and how other NPCs refer to the target NPC.
Nearly 700 lines have been changed for the Ser Aylin Project alone! Character Creator has been revamped too!

Big thank you to @Crusaderknight20, @loregamer and @dantrag28 for their help!

Index
  1. Features
  2. Current Exceptions
  3. Downloads 📥
  4. Installation
  5. Compatibility
  6. Changelog
  7. Upcoming Changes
  8. Troubleshooting
  9. BUG Reports/ Support
  10. FAQs & Recommendations
  11. How to Translate this Mod
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Features
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Current Exceptions
If an identity adds to the game/ too embedded in lore / would not be out of place in medieval times it has not been altered.
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Downloads
VersionTypeLanguageDescriptionUploaded
📥Aesthetics4.4.0Mandatoryn/aReplaces specific heads and bodies17-Feb-24
📥Voice4.5.0Mandatoryn/aReplaces specific in-game audio files17-Apr-24
📥Lingo 4.5.0MandatoryEnglishIMPORTANT: Extract to Data Folder. Replaces specific lines only.17-Apr-24
📥CCreator3.8.0Optionaln/aRemoves alphabetism from the the character creator.20-Apr-24
📥CCreator_noGen1.4.0Optionaln/aSame as above but also disables genital carousel, sex based default used.20-Apr-24
📥BeardedAylin4.4.0Optionaln/aSer Aylin keeps his beard permanently. Needs to load after "Aesthetics"17-Feb-24
Translations:
📥Lingo FR 4.5.0AlternativeFrenchRemplace TOUS les textes du jeu. (@Tipfy)
📥Lingo RU 4.4.0AlternativeRussianМеняет ВЕСЬ внутриигровой текст. (@Aleks1398, @Faceless_Sentinel )20-Jan-24
📥Lingo PL 4.4.0AlternativePolishZastępuje WSZYSTKIE teksty w grze. (@Alef Zero)
📥Lingo DE 4.3.0AlternativeGermanErsetzt JEDEN Text im Spiel. (@Reichspepe)
📥Lingo CN 4.5.0AlternativeChinese替换所有游戏内文本。 (@Some1LikeYou)
📥Lingo KR 4.3.0AlternativeKorean게임의 모든 텍스트를 대체합니다. (rjatorgkwlak04)
📥Lingo ES 4.4.0AlternativeSpanishReemplaza TODO el texto del juego. (@Devseena )
📥Lingo IT4.5.0AlternativeItalianSostituisce TUTTO il testo di gioco. (@lowryder )
Translator's Resource:
📥Lingo [PAK]4.5.0AlternativeEnglishPAK version of Lingo Mod, to help with translation17-Apr-24

Older Versions
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Installation
Prerequisite
  1. A mod manager e.g BG3 Mod Manager or Vortex. Linux user: Lampray
  2. Mod Fixer addon

Lingo
  1. Extract NoAlphabets Lingo to your Baldur's Gate 3 Data Folder. It looks something like:
    X:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Baldurs Gate 3\Data
    You are basically dropping the "Localization" folder from the zip file into the above path.
Other Modules
  1. Simply drop the zip files (except NoAlphabetsLingo) onto the right hand panel of the BG3 Mod Manager.
  2. Once there, drag all the mods except Dice06 and Honour to the left hand panel.
  3. Order them as shown in the load order section below. Leave Voice mod in the override
  4. NoAlphabetsLingo no longer goes into BG3 Mod Manager
  5. Go to File > Export Order to Game.
  6. Go to File > Refresh Mod Updates. If upon refresh your mods end up on the right hand panel, repeat step 2 onwards.

Load Order
  1. NoAlphabets Aesthetics must load after other mods that change looks, i.e. lower down on the mod list compared to other mods that changes looks.
    ► Click to show ideal mod order
Read the Troubleshooting section below in case you run into issues before opening a support thread.

Optional
If you wish to give Aylin a permanent beard, you will definitely need BG3 Mod Manager, and set "BeardedAylin" to load after "Aesthetics".

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Compatibility
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Changelog
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Upcoming Changes
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Troubleshooting
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BUG Reports/Support
REPORT A BUG 🐞 in the support section!
1. Screenshot/ write out a unique sounding portion of the offending line.
2. Flag NPCs, notes, weapon flavour text etc.
WARNING: If you report your bug in this thread it may get lost in conversation!

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If I ever play the game for real, I'll be using BBAesthetics and this, so I'll take notes.
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Perfect, I just finished BG3 so I remember a bunch

-there's a githyanki woman in the mountain pass creche infirmiry with vitiligo
-Fist Silena at the South Span Checkpoint to Wyrm's Crossing has vitiligo
-man sleeping in the sewer next to potions of sleep: a note nearby mentions his husband
-Hunkers Boolean and Gaheid Slickjaw are NPCs who devoted their allotted one sentence to being faggots
-There's a Gondian halfling woman in the first room of the Steel Watcher warehouse. If you trigger the cutscene with the guard, the guard mentions holding her wife hostage.
-I think one of the Ironhand gnome guys you rescue from the cave in will call another gnome his husband

Actually just found this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_with_LGBT_characters:_2020s#:~:text=The%20player%20character%20in%20Baldur%27s,entirely%20up%20to%20the%20player.
"Beldron and Lunkbug are Gnomish husbands being held captive in Grymforge when the player meets them. Their fate after that is up to the player.[86]"
"Aylin and Isobel are followers of Selune who can be reunited by the player's actions. If they are, they embrace, and reveal their relationship."
"Omeluum is an Illithid, separated from the Hivemind its people normally obey. It has instead joined the Society of Brilliance, a group of scholars studying the peoples and places in the Underdark. Omeluum uses it/its pronouns."
"Nine-Fingers Keene leads the Baldur's Gate Thieves Guild with her girlfriend, Rilsa Rael. Their relationship was implied in the adventure module "Murder in Baldur's Gate", and later confirmed in the Magic: The Gathering set "Battle for Baldur's Gate", by the set's narrative lead, Justice Geddes.[89]"
"The player can meet Nafula in the tavern 'The Blushing Mermaid', where they overhear her father trying to convince her to marry into wealth. Nafula asks the player to weigh in on whether she's being unreasonable by refusing. When you side with her, her father pressures further until she states she just wants to be happy, and she's happy with Sasha; much to her father's chagrin."
"Jara is a member of the Flaming Fist. You can encounter her getting intimate with Naoise, the female nymph courtesan, before it is revealed she is a cultist of the game's antagonist, the Absolute. At this revelation, her transformation is triggered and she becomes a hostile Illithid.[90]"
"An old friend of Shadowheart's she'd been forced to forget by her Goddess' will, she can be reminded of her friend Rennald by consuming a mushroom called Noblestalk that is said to cure all ills. Upon returning to the cloister where she was trained you can be reunited with and reintroduced to her as Nocturne. She is also voiced by Abigail Thorn, a transgender actress and playwright.[92][93]"
"Raphael is a cambion who offers his aid to the player, for a price. The player can venture into his house and encounter Haarlep, Raphael's personal Incubus, in his boudoir. Haarlep is able to take whatever form most please Raphael, and most of the time, that is the form of Raphael himself, though Haarlep reveals they're occasionally asked to instead take the form of "Archduchess Raphael", a female version of the cambion.[94]"
"Chorizo is the chef at the brothel Sharess' Caress. When the player approaches him, he assumes they think he's a courtesan and immediately shuts them down, telling them he has a husband. And that you're not his type.[95]"
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Oyster Sauce wrote: October 29th, 2023, 18:06
Perfect, I just finished BG3 so I remember a bunch

-there's a githyanki woman in the mountain pass creche infirmiry with vitiligo
-Fist Silena at the South Span Checkpoint to Wyrm's Crossing has vitiligo
-man sleeping in the sewer next to potions of sleep: a note nearby mentions his husband
-Hunkers Boolean and Gaheid Slickjaw are NPCs who devoted their allotted one sentence to being faggots
-There's a Gondian halfling woman in the first room of the Steel Watcher warehouse. If you trigger the cutscene with the guard, the guard mentions holding her wife hostage.
-I think one of the Ironhand gnome guys you rescue from the cave in will call another gnome his husband

Actually just found this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_with_LGBT_characters:_2020s#:~:text=The%20player%20character%20in%20Baldur%27s,entirely%20up%20to%20the%20player.
"Beldron and Lunkbug are Gnomish husbands being held captive in Grymforge when the player meets them. Their fate after that is up to the player.[86]"
"Aylin and Isobel are followers of Selune who can be reunited by the player's actions. If they are, they embrace, and reveal their relationship."
"Omeluum is an Illithid, separated from the Hivemind its people normally obey. It has instead joined the Society of Brilliance, a group of scholars studying the peoples and places in the Underdark. Omeluum uses it/its pronouns."
"Nine-Fingers Keene leads the Baldur's Gate Thieves Guild with her girlfriend, Rilsa Rael. Their relationship was implied in the adventure module "Murder in Baldur's Gate", and later confirmed in the Magic: The Gathering set "Battle for Baldur's Gate", by the set's narrative lead, Justice Geddes.[89]"
"The player can meet Nafula in the tavern 'The Blushing Mermaid', where they overhear her father trying to convince her to marry into wealth. Nafula asks the player to weigh in on whether she's being unreasonable by refusing. When you side with her, her father pressures further until she states she just wants to be happy, and she's happy with Sasha; much to her father's chagrin."
"Jara is a member of the Flaming Fist. You can encounter her getting intimate with Naoise, the female nymph courtesan, before it is revealed she is a cultist of the game's antagonist, the Absolute. At this revelation, her transformation is triggered and she becomes a hostile Illithid.[90]"
"An old friend of Shadowheart's she'd been forced to forget by her Goddess' will, she can be reminded of her friend Rennald by consuming a mushroom called Noblestalk that is said to cure all ills. Upon returning to the cloister where she was trained you can be reunited with and reintroduced to her as Nocturne. She is also voiced by Abigail Thorn, a transgender actress and playwright.[92][93]"
"Raphael is a cambion who offers his aid to the player, for a price. The player can venture into his house and encounter Haarlep, Raphael's personal Incubus, in his boudoir. Haarlep is able to take whatever form most please Raphael, and most of the time, that is the form of Raphael himself, though Haarlep reveals they're occasionally asked to instead take the form of "Archduchess Raphael", a female version of the cambion.[94]"
"Chorizo is the chef at the brothel Sharess' Caress. When the player approaches him, he assumes they think he's a courtesan and immediately shuts them down, telling them he has a husband. And that you're not his type.[95]"
Thanks, If you can remember a portion of the letter that would help. Also I'm leaving Raphael as he is, its just too funny. "It" is the most sane pronoun for an illithid I've ever seen :lol:
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orinEsque wrote: October 29th, 2023, 18:11
Oyster Sauce wrote: October 29th, 2023, 18:06
Perfect, I just finished BG3 so I remember a bunch

-there's a githyanki woman in the mountain pass creche infirmiry with vitiligo
-Fist Silena at the South Span Checkpoint to Wyrm's Crossing has vitiligo
-man sleeping in the sewer next to potions of sleep: a note nearby mentions his husband
-Hunkers Boolean and Gaheid Slickjaw are NPCs who devoted their allotted one sentence to being faggots
-There's a Gondian halfling woman in the first room of the Steel Watcher warehouse. If you trigger the cutscene with the guard, the guard mentions holding her wife hostage.
-I think one of the Ironhand gnome guys you rescue from the cave in will call another gnome his husband

Actually just found this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_with_LGBT_characters:_2020s#:~:text=The%20player%20character%20in%20Baldur%27s,entirely%20up%20to%20the%20player.
"Beldron and Lunkbug are Gnomish husbands being held captive in Grymforge when the player meets them. Their fate after that is up to the player.[86]"
"Aylin and Isobel are followers of Selune who can be reunited by the player's actions. If they are, they embrace, and reveal their relationship."
"Omeluum is an Illithid, separated from the Hivemind its people normally obey. It has instead joined the Society of Brilliance, a group of scholars studying the peoples and places in the Underdark. Omeluum uses it/its pronouns."
"Nine-Fingers Keene leads the Baldur's Gate Thieves Guild with her girlfriend, Rilsa Rael. Their relationship was implied in the adventure module "Murder in Baldur's Gate", and later confirmed in the Magic: The Gathering set "Battle for Baldur's Gate", by the set's narrative lead, Justice Geddes.[89]"
"The player can meet Nafula in the tavern 'The Blushing Mermaid', where they overhear her father trying to convince her to marry into wealth. Nafula asks the player to weigh in on whether she's being unreasonable by refusing. When you side with her, her father pressures further until she states she just wants to be happy, and she's happy with Sasha; much to her father's chagrin."
"Jara is a member of the Flaming Fist. You can encounter her getting intimate with Naoise, the female nymph courtesan, before it is revealed she is a cultist of the game's antagonist, the Absolute. At this revelation, her transformation is triggered and she becomes a hostile Illithid.[90]"
"An old friend of Shadowheart's she'd been forced to forget by her Goddess' will, she can be reminded of her friend Rennald by consuming a mushroom called Noblestalk that is said to cure all ills. Upon returning to the cloister where she was trained you can be reunited with and reintroduced to her as Nocturne. She is also voiced by Abigail Thorn, a transgender actress and playwright.[92][93]"
"Raphael is a cambion who offers his aid to the player, for a price. The player can venture into his house and encounter Haarlep, Raphael's personal Incubus, in his boudoir. Haarlep is able to take whatever form most please Raphael, and most of the time, that is the form of Raphael himself, though Haarlep reveals they're occasionally asked to instead take the form of "Archduchess Raphael", a female version of the cambion.[94]"
"Chorizo is the chef at the brothel Sharess' Caress. When the player approaches him, he assumes they think he's a courtesan and immediately shuts them down, telling them he has a husband. And that you're not his type.[95]"
Thanks, If you can remember a portion of the letter that would help. Also I'm leaving Raphael as he is, its just too funny. "It" is the most sane pronoun for an illithid I've ever seen :lol:
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Thanks! I'll fix that. Also I will leave Vitilgo changes for (Fist Yilena and Pyrindath) to people working on Aesthetics in general, I personally never even noticed. And the NoAlphabet mods are a bit more... specialised ;) .
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Upcoming Changes
  • Remove any mention of "his husband/her wife"
  • LOW_SewersBoosters_Overdose_Letter will mention a wife (credit: @Oyster Sauce )
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I imagine it will be quite the hassle to chop chop interactions between Isobel and Aylin, but they are not as obnoxious - which means they are easy to spot and cutting them out won't change much of the context





- optional. An outsider would think that a priestess of Selune had died, and Ayling - being the child of Selune - mourns. Unless any mentions of Isobel as Aylin is gay. Just posting it there
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I think if you tried to do this with Pathfinder you would find your work cut out for you.

I had to find where that phrase came from since it sounded odd...
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As soon as it's revealed they're a couple, they both cease being characters. They literally don't say anything that isn't some variation of "OMG I love my girlfriend uguu~~~". You could cut it all.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: October 29th, 2023, 20:33
I imagine it will be quite the hassle to chop chop interactions between Isobel and Aylin, but they are not as obnoxious - which means they are easy to spot and cutting them out won't change much of the context





- optional. An outsider would think that a priestess of Selune had died, and Ayling - being the child of Selune - mourns. Unless any mentions of Isobel as Aylin is gay. Just posting it there
Future changes (not anytime soon):
1. Maybe change to a Sir Aylin.
2. Ai to change Aylin's voice to male.
3. Ima change his head no problem. Loving blender.
3. Find way to remove his (its a he now in my head) line about telling me to fuck off from my own camp.
If anyone remembers all the books/letters relating to the two falling in love. That would be great. I would much prefer a hot male Aesimar than this obnoxiousness.
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they managed to make lesbians unattractive, that's a talent
aylin might as well be a dude, acts entirely like a dude
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rusty_shackleford wrote: October 29th, 2023, 20:39
Fucking hated aylin holy shit
rusty_shackleford wrote: October 29th, 2023, 20:43
they managed to make lesbians unattractive, that's a talent
aylin might as well be a dude, acts entirely like a dude
I wished Aylin was a male Aasimar
She is written like she would be a dude from the start. It would be more wholesome too

But modern writing for "strong women" is just writing a dude and place female head and tits on him

Even Sisters of Battle from WH40k have more femininity than Aylin, and they are twice as zealous about fighting for their faith

At first I liked the theme of a Priest banging the child of the god they follow, but Aylin is just...insufferable

If they were lesbians like Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune, it would be much more bearable, but Isobel is far from feminine like Neptune is, and Aylin has neither the charm nor stoicism of Uranus.
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I'm highly suggesting giving Ser Ayling a beard
I just jest xD
Clean shave would be fine too
If I spot something, I'll let you know. I have multiple playthroughs - some of them before meeting the two

You can throw making Isobel white in there as a package, unless whitewashing Isobel is part of better aesthetics
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I couldn't have put it better myself. Silly me for thinking I'd like to be "strong woman" in that my talents as a person will be amped up, not me suddenly becoming the definition of alpha male. Fucking reddit is the most sexist piece of shit, pretending to be all "woman are the better sex" while telling women to be men!

I prefer my men to have a little beard. But that's something to do for the future.

Er isn't isobel white already? Her skin looks... ashen... fits the whole resurrected from death with an unholy ritual type of vibe. (but yes that would be for the other mod, we're dealing with alphabets here.)
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Based as fuck, sister

You're right. I forgot she was resurrected for a minute

It might me just me with mod installed that makes my character's skin porcelain white, cause the brightest of white skins is still way too dark for my taste
I lack representation in modern games in this manner; I'm deathly pale

So compared to my character, Isobel is quite dark
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You're a true blessing, do you have any plan for no-English version? I'm french and I can help if need for my fatherland.
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FloSharChosen wrote: October 30th, 2023, 16:01
You're a true blessing, do you have any plan for no-English version? I'm french and I can help if need for my fatherland.
I can certainly write a tutorial on how to do the edits. Unfortunately my french is limited to the word baguette. *honhonhon*. Unless you know R though, the best I can do is identify the lines that need changing and which file, and you'd have to do this manually. And Every time there's a patch.
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orinEsque wrote: October 30th, 2023, 19:15
FloSharChosen wrote: October 30th, 2023, 16:01
You're a true blessing, do you have any plan for no-English version? I'm french and I can help if need for my fatherland.
I can certainly write a tutorial on how to do the edits. Unfortunately my french is limited to the word baguette. *honhonhon*. Unless you know R though, the best I can do is identify the lines that need changing and which file, and you'd have to do this manually. And Every time there's a patch.
Let's go, it's a good deal for me. This woke vibes made me sick, I hate cultural marxism.
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REJOICE PEASANTS! For I bring you AI altered voices!
I've started with two easier NPCs. I'm new to this voice changing AI, so I will use these throwaway NPCs as a stepping stone. The mod now has an added component! "NoAlphabetsVoice". Make sure to download that otherwise there will be appearance and voice mismatch.

Version 1.1
AI Voice changes are here!

Lingo
Fix mentions of "his husband/her wife"
LOW_SewersBoosters_Overdose_Letter now mentions a wife
Amandus (not Amanda) writes to his wife Flora in Blighted Village.

Aesthetics
Neno Quilltop (panicbuycouple) no longer has nose ring and pink hair.

Lingo, Aesthetics and voice combo
Hunkers Boolean turned into Hannah Binary + voice AI.
Kali Hammerhand (panicbuycouple) turned into male gnome + voice AI

Upcoming Changes
Ironhand Gnome with one liner will be turned into a woman
Chorizo - Dwarf cook in Sharess' caress will be turned into a woman
Cow owner at Lower City entrance will be turned into a woman
Other smaller text edits
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What are your opinions of Alfira and Lakrissa? It isn't as shoehorned and dislikeable as Aylin... I'm a bit divided.

Nocturne will now be a man who is good with doing girls' hair and tried turning himself into a woman with a potion but hated it. He now changed his name to become a new man that embraces his feminine talents. His journal entry will reflect this.
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Note: I'm leaving the Fist Jara as is, because she's in a backroom of a brothel.
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HAH! Nocturne is now a man in name, appearance portrait and voice! You and npcs should also now refer to him as a "he". Report if I missed a line.

Version 1.2
Lingo, Aesthetics and voice combo
Nocturne is now a complex man. In face, voice and flavour text. Biggest change I've made so far!
  1. People now refer to Nocturne as a "he". If I missed a line flag it!
  2. He is now a male tiefling.
  3. His diary has now changed. Read it to find out his new story!
    ► Show Spoiler
  4. Check out his new voice and appearance in the video file below.
    ► Show Spoiler
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That's actually pretty good for AI voice, what tools did you use to make it?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 1st, 2023, 01:43
That's actually pretty good for AI voice, what tools did you use to make it?
Posted it here: viewtopic.php?t=1090-npc-modders-resour ... r-s-gate-3
With additional input not in the video

The tool can pull out any NPCs lines as long as you know their voice code. Not hard to find. Companions, Narrator, Isobel and Nightsong are already there for you to pick. Not surprised about the latter, Asians are based.
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I took them as sisters or besties, but I never thought "omg they are lesbians"
Maybe my lesbian radar is just broken

At this point I doubt there are any gay couples in Baldur's Gate TBH
I'm not talking about diary entries, but I'm talking more-or-less story relevant NPCs that do have some voice lines
(and no, neither Astarion, Gale, Wyll, nor Halsin count. Companions are Playersexual, as I discussed in the other topic)

Should I be wrong, please do correct me
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Your lesbian radar is 100% broken. We don't talk to our beasties about getting our own house with a fence. And in act 3 Lakrissa will tell you she's with alfira if you ask her for a kiss. And then the googly eyes she makes at her (in that most cliche way) when Alfira says bg city is beautiful, and Lakrissa a stares at Alfira and agrees.

Any how i think I'll leave them in. They aren't openly gay and not megaphoning to the world about it, and keeping it mostly unsaid is how they would have existed in a medieval era.

I had no plans to change the companions. I like them all.
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That explains a lot
I never chose options to kiss female NPCs, so I missed that completely
And I might have skipped some dialogues :scratch:

I didn't reach much into their other interactions, but I admit I didn't interact them a lot
Alfira's quest, and maybe some interactions with Alfira as a bard, since there are nice dialogues with her if you're a fellow Bard

It's reassuring we have similar views on that.
I would give Isobel and Aylin a pass
They were reunited so I get it - they didn't care for the whole team is watching their proclamations of love
I would've done the same with my bf

But Aylin is an insufferable beacon of modern female character writing
And is willing to share horny details later in the camp in a casual conversation, which is obnoxious TMI

I might give Shadowheart, Karlach and Lazz a chance one day, just for the sake of achievments
Yeah I frequent women hating megathread, but that doesn't mean I'm not rational, and knowing Larian - I'm sure they are well written
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: November 1st, 2023, 13:56
orinEsque wrote: November 1st, 2023, 13:35
Your lesbian radar is 100% broken. We don't talk to our beasties about getting our own house with a fence. And in act 3 Lakrissa will tell you she's with alfira if you ask her for a kiss. And then the googly eyes she makes at her (in that most cliche way) when Alfira says bg city is beautiful, and Lakrissa a stares at Alfira and agrees.
That explains a lot
I never chose options to kiss female NPCs, so I missed that completely
And I might have skipped some dialogues :scratch:

I didn't reach much into their other interactions, but I admit I didn't interact them a lot
Alfira's quest, and maybe some interactions with Alfira as a bard, since there are nice dialogues with her if you're a fellow Bard
orinEsque wrote: November 1st, 2023, 13:35
Any how i think I'll leave them in. They aren't openly gay and not megaphoning to the world about it, and keeping it mostly unsaid is how they would have existed in a medieval era.
It's reassuring we have similar views on that.
I would give Isobel and Aylin a pass
They were reunited so I get it - they didn't care for the whole team is watching their proclamations of love
I would've done the same with my bf

But Aylin is an insufferable beacon of modern female character writing
And is willing to share horny details later in the camp in a casual conversation, which is obnoxious TMI
orinEsque wrote: November 1st, 2023, 13:35
I had no plans to change the companions. I like them all.
Same
I might give Shadowheart, Karlach and Lazz a chance one day, just for the sake of achievments
Yeah I frequent women hating megathread, but that doesn't mean I'm not rational, and knowing Larian - I'm sure they are well written
Hah average woman. Don't compare me to those simians. My intelligence and talent far surpasses the vast majority of men AND woman (edwin odesseiron voice). You don't have to make excuses for participating in woman haters thread to me.

As far as I'm concerned adults can do to each other what they want in their bedroom. I expect 1400s Africa to have mainly black people. If these sentiments make me a ist/ phobe to the woke crowd. So be it.
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Created an account just to follow your work and thank you. Will be buying the game once you've made some more progress. Let us know if there's a way to buy you a coffee/beer.
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