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Avowed, a TES-like game from Obsidian

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Inventory management is a sufficient minigame for me, thanks. A variety of challenges is good, though, so puzzles and secrets are nice.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 6th, 2024, 12:31
so-called 'minigames' and similar are palette cleansers. Essential for a good game, but destroy it when overused.
"Minigames are a waste of time" - Chris Avellone
"Josh Sawyer spent too much time on caravan; time that would have been better spent elsewhere" - also Chris Avellone
"I don't care for minigames" - Tim Cain
"I like well-executed minigames" - Josh Sawyer
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Roguey wrote: February 6th, 2024, 13:08
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 6th, 2024, 12:31
so-called 'minigames' and similar are palette cleansers. Essential for a good game, but destroy it when overused.
"Minigames are a waste of time" - Chris Avellone
"Josh Sawyer spent too much time on caravan; time that would have been better spent elsewhere" - also Chris Avellone
"I don't care for minigames" - Tim Cain
"I like well-executed minigames" - Josh Sawyer
They're all wrong except Sawyer.
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And yet they all wish they had a fraction of the brillance possessed by the minds that gave us arcomage.
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Minigames and puzzles are stupid, if I want to play a minigame and/or a puzzle I'll just fucking go play these genres, I don't need my RPG game pushing me that. Throwing puzzles at you like a you're monkey (and worse, you solving them like you're really one) shouldn't be what an RPG is about.

Secrets and challenges are nice
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It depends on how the puzzle is integrated. If it's just a random Tower of Hanoi, yeah, that's not very good, but if it's something that can be solved by environmental interaction, that really adds to the game.
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Yeah I can see it in a occasion where I'm solving a puzzle when I didn't even know I'm solving one because of how well integrated it is.

But when you're put somewhere you explicitly know it's the "puzzle section", it fucking sucks and makes me google the solution ASAP

Still, if I could choose, I'd pick no puzzles at all, only focus on writing and combat.
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My rpg maker pokemon hack would outsell this trash.
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Anon wrote: February 6th, 2024, 13:25
Minigames and puzzles are stupid, if I want to play a minigame and/or a puzzle I'll just fucking go play these genres, I don't need my RPG game pushing me that. Throwing puzzles at you like a you're monkey (and worse, you solving them like you're really one) shouldn't be what an RPG is about.

Secrets and challenges are nice
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The director then goes on to explain how the footage we saw during the Developer Direct is actually "a few weeks behind" where the team is currently, in terms of its development.
Oh that's a relief, the footage was THREE WHOLE WEEKS old. Surely the game is perfect now.

This really isn't the "own" that Coping Patel thinks it is. Obsidian seriously needs a PR manager to hide these turds-masquerading-as-games better.
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I like minigames when they're well done. Americans just hate fun.
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Ratcatcher wrote: February 6th, 2024, 13:23
And yet they all wish they had a fraction of the brillance possessed by the minds that gave us arcomage.
Play to your heart's content.

https://github.com/arcomage/arcomage-hd
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Post by rusty_shackleford »

Acrux wrote: February 6th, 2024, 14:59
Ratcatcher wrote: February 6th, 2024, 13:23
And yet they all wish they had a fraction of the brillance possessed by the minds that gave us arcomage.
Play to your heart's content.

https://github.com/arcomage/arcomage-hd
It's not the same, it's like telling someone to eat a bowl of rice. It's alright, but it's not the same.
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