Avowed, a TES-like game from Obsidian

[Anon]

this will be just yet another Obsidian massive flop. then maybe they'll finally shut off and of course blame the community for not buying their shit anymore.

Yes, it will commercially flop. But they probably play it off like another massive success counting every single 1min playtime Game Pass installation.

True, like Bethesda is doing with Starfield. But deep down they know they set their expectations way higher than what they're getting.

[Breathe]

I can't imagine working on a mediocre product (for years) while knowing it's mediocre and having to fake enthusiasm for it. We never see the regular devs who leave the studio for this reason, and would rather work on something great. We only see the leftovers who are proud of their mediocrity or too green to know better.

[Vergil]

I don't know what the world would have been like if the Nazi leaders were smarter and allied with Britain and America instead of fighting them

Hitler tried over and over again to ally with Britain and they refused every time.

[Rand]

I don't know what the world would have been like if the Nazi leaders were smarter and allied with Britain and America instead of fighting them

Hitler tried over and over again to ally with Britain and they refused every time.

Never said they didn't. Just that they didn't pull it off.

[Vergil]

Not sure how they were supposed to have been "smarter" then if they tried exactly what you said they should have done and were refused.

Also idc about being off topic WWII sperging is more interesting than Obsidian slop. Probably has better lore too.

[Oyster Sauce]

finally a game that lets me be pretty pimp

[Rand]

Not sure how they were supposed to have been "smarter" then if they tried exactly what you said they should have done and were refused.

Also idc about being off topic WWII sperging is more interesting than Obsidian slop. Probably has better lore too.

They weren't too bright with their American dealings, iirc.

[Breathe]

Not sure how they were supposed to have been "smarter" then if they tried exactly what you said they should have done and were refused.

Also idc about being off topic WWII sperging is more interesting than Obsidian slop. Probably has better lore too.

They weren't too bright with their American dealings, iirc.

I don't know enough about any conversations between US and Germany post WW1, but after the Balfour Declaration was made prior to WW1 I don't think there was much Germany could do from that point forward anyway. Jews used their media control to propagandize US into backing the Brits so they could get Palestine.

[Vergil]

I'm calling it here btw
If there's any White male companions it's going to be a single guy and he'll be a mega faggot.

[rusty_shackleford]

Avowed got an 'E' rating from ESRB(????)


for non-Americans, that's for games rated 10 and up.

Games with this rating contain content that the ESRB believes is suitable for ages 10 and over, including cartoon, fantasy, or mild violence, mild language, and/or minimal suggestive themes

[Vergil]

That did strike me as pretty odd when it first popped up. Just how sanitized is this gonna be? Doesn't obsidian love to larp that they tell "deep, meaningful morally grey stories? It already looks like an edges sanded off F2P MMO as it is.

[maidenhaver]

Its rated 10+ for it's brave display of bipoc and trans allies. Gotta grab the kiddies.

[Vergil]

Wouldn't be shocked if you pitted two games against each other that had romantic/sexual themes and one was straight with the other one being gay the fag game would get a lower score because straight sexuality is repressive and lame but gay buttsex is stunning, brave, and important.

[Axel_am]

I have fait that when this gets patched/modded it would actually be something decent. But as it stands Avowed looks like a huge let down.

I see at best the base product being average or slightly above it. I wouldn't like to think about the other alternatives as that dampens my mood. The thing is the whole project looks really uninspired. I hope they manage somehow to insert some life into it or else this is just going to be another Hollowborn by Obsidian.

[Vergil]

I have fait that when this gets patched/modded it would actually be something decent.

Only problem with that there's no guarantee it will be very moddable or have any sort of meaningful modding scene build up around it. The Outer Worlds didn't get any sort of mod support did it?

[Roguey]

Avowed got an 'E' rating from ESRB(????)


for non-Americans, that's for games rated 10 and up.

Games with this rating contain content that the ESRB believes is suitable for ages 10 and over, including cartoon, fantasy, or mild violence, mild language, and/or minimal suggestive themes

That was an error, they made the video private and uploaded a new one with a "rating pending" instead.

[Emphyrio]

finally a game that lets me be pretty pimp

boomer humor comics

[Axel_am]

I have fait that when this gets patched/modded it would actually be something decent.

Only problem with that there's no guarantee it will be very moddable or have any sort of meaningful modding scene build up around it. The Outer Worlds didn't get any sort of mod support did it?

If they are hoping Avowed to compete with TES they must have made plans for mod support is what I'm thinking.

[Roguey]

Deeper dive:


They confirm you'll be able to use spells on the environment.

[gerey]

Does MicroSoft force their indentured developers to make their games as awful as possible, or is it just the Pajeet magic touch?

[Nammu Archag]

Does MicroSoft force their indentured developers to make their games as awful as possible, or is it just the Pajeet magic touch?

After finding out that Bethesda offshored big chunks of starfields development to Indonesia and India, I wonder if Microsoft just forces all their dev niggers offshore to reduce costs, especially since Xbox is now a netflix style company

[Breathe]

Does MicroSoft force their indentured developers to make their games as awful as possible, or is it just the Pajeet magic touch?

After finding out that Bethesda offshored big chunks of starfields development to Indonesia and India, I wonder if Microsoft just forces all their dev niggers offshore to reduce costs, especially since Xbox is now a netflix style company

I didn't know this. No wonder it's not just soulless but also complete crap in every regard.

[KnightoftheWind]

Does MicroSoft force their indentured developers to make their games as awful as possible, or is it just the Pajeet magic touch?

Devs being diversity hires + focus groups being diversity hires = Avowed. Any white men on the team not committed to chopping off their genitalia is just coasting and keeping their heads down, while their brown female superiors call the shots and clap like seals at all the heckin' AMAZING work being done. Especially at the weekly diversity and inclusion meetings taking place, those are the best times for sure. No one with taste actually thinks the game looks good, but they don't have control of the ship so they just nod and smile and hope they won't get fired next week for being white males with talent and creativity.

They probably get snubbed at the cafeteria, snubbed during their coffee breaks, and bring some air fresheners to work to mask the smell of foul odours emanating from their "fellow employees". But they dare not speak a word of it, and they dare not reveal it, otherwise they'd be ostracised even more. On the outside we get terrible games, but on the inside?, I struggle to think of what goes on.

[Wretch]

Does MicroSoft force their indentured developers to make their games as awful as possible, or is it just the Pajeet magic touch?

Devs being diversity hires + focus groups being diversity hires = Avowed. Any white men on the team not committed to chopping off their genitalia is just coasting and keeping their heads down, while their brown female superiors call the shots and clap like seals at all the heckin' AMAZING work being done. Especially at the weekly diversity and inclusion meetings taking place, those are the best times for sure. No one with taste actually thinks the game looks good, but they don't have control of the ship so they just nod and smile and hope they won't get fired next week for being white males with talent and creativity.

They probably get snubbed at the cafeteria, snubbed during their coffee breaks, and bring some air fresheners to work to mask the smell of foul odours emanating from their "fellow employees". But they dare not speak a word of it, and they dare not reveal it, otherwise they'd be ostracised even more. On the outside we get terrible games, but on the inside?, I struggle to think of what goes on.

This is unfortunately the average western employee experience, not just game dev.

[Shillitron]

That did strike me as pretty odd when it first popped up. Just how sanitized is this gonna be? Doesn't obsidian love to larp that they tell "deep, meaningful morally grey stories? It already looks like an edges sanded off F2P MMO as it is.

I remember Sawyer gushing about how adult Deadfire was gonna be.. and it ended up just being a bunch of naked guys with shitty low poly penis's walking around in a bath house.

No wonder his Girlfriend left him.

[wndrbr]

https://www.pcgamer.com/avoweds-compani ... know-them/

Avowed's companions won't ditch you for making the 'wrong' choices: 'It's not about maintaining their approval, it's about getting to know them'

Storywise, companions will each have a "personal arc," said Patel, and they'll all be involved in each playthrough—it's not like Baldur's Gate 3 where you can walk by a hand sticking out of a portal, shrug it off, and leave Gale to his fate.

"We didn't go with a strict approval system. We didn't want players feeling like they had to choose the 'right' options in order to maintain their companions. So it's not about maintaining their approval, it's about getting to know them, building relationships with them, and you know, finding points of commonality and strength where they're learning things from you as the player character, and you're getting a little bit of their perspective on the world." said Patel.

pathetic. The reactivity will likely be worse than in TOW.

[rusty_shackleford]

said Patel,

it's going to be absolute garbage

[Roguey]

it's going to be absolute garbage

She's an affluent white woman who took her husband's last name for the exotic factor.

[rusty_shackleford]

it's going to be absolute garbage

She's an affluent white woman who took her husband's last name for the exotic factor.

I'm well aware, but she's also an absolutely awful writer.

[Roguey]

it's going to be absolute garbage

She's an affluent white woman who took her husband's last name for the exotic factor.

I'm well aware, but she's also an absolutely awful writer.

I didn't mind Aloth and Sagani or her finish on Grieving Milf, and I've heard good things about the Devil of Caroc, but she fell hard with Maneha in White March part II and seems to have stayed there. It's a mystery if her self-insert in The Outer Worlds is an intentional clown with her immature rebellious attitude despite being well into adulthood.