Avowed, a TES-like game from Obsidian

Atlantico · Post by **Atlantico** » January 24th, 2024, 12:48

Roguey wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 10:57
It's a mystery if her self-insert in The Outer Worlds is an intentional clown with her immature rebellious attitude despite being well into adulthood.

Considering that Dollarhyde asexual dyke also had a self-insert it seems deliberate

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » January 24th, 2024, 13:39

Atlantico wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 12:48

Roguey wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 10:57
It's a mystery if her self-insert in The Outer Worlds is an intentional clown with her immature rebellious attitude despite being well into adulthood.
Considering that Dollarhyde asexual dyke also had a self-insert it seems deliberate

The self-inserting is deliberate I'm talking about whether or not she's meant to be intentionally self-deprecating.

Atlantico · Post by **Atlantico** » January 24th, 2024, 16:51

Roguey wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 13:39

Atlantico wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 12:48

Roguey wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 10:57
It's a mystery if her self-insert in The Outer Worlds is an intentional clown with her immature rebellious attitude despite being well into adulthood.
Considering that Dollarhyde asexual dyke also had a self-insert it seems deliberate
The self-inserting is deliberate I'm talking about whether or not she's meant to be intentionally self-deprecating.

Ellie is an estrosoy power fantasy. Is that even self-deprecating?

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » January 24th, 2024, 17:23

Atlantico wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 16:51
Ellie is an estrosoy power fantasy. Is that even self-deprecating?

In her personal quest she takes you to meet her parents and acts like such a bratty child I wonder if the point is in fact to laugh at her.

gerey · Post by **gerey** » January 24th, 2024, 17:28

KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 03:11
On the outside we get terrible games, but on the inside?, I struggle to think of what goes on.

Atlantico · Post by **Atlantico** » January 24th, 2024, 23:24

Roguey wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 17:23

Atlantico wrote: ↑ January 24th, 2024, 16:51
Ellie is an estrosoy power fantasy. Is that even self-deprecating?
In her personal quest she takes you to meet her parents and acts like such a bratty child I wonder if the point is in fact to laugh at her.

Yes perhaps, I can see that

edit: whether she meant that as deliberate depreciation of herself or whether she sees that as actually pretty badass ... you be the judge

Post by **Oyster Sauce** » January 25th, 2024, 08:28

Have we considered the possibility that Eora may be a planet within the universe of The Outer Worlds? Thinking of making a YouTube video about this.

Vergil · Post by **Vergil** » January 25th, 2024, 08:56

Avowed is like Skyrim with swords and magic.

Atlantico · Post by **Atlantico** » January 25th, 2024, 11:04

Vergil wrote: ↑ January 25th, 2024, 08:56
Avowed is like Skyrim with swords and magic.

I never played Skyrim. Maybe I should just skip it and go straight for Avowed.

Axel_am · Post by **Axel_am** » January 29th, 2024, 09:21

The real question is will this be better than Skyrim?

Vergil · Post by **Vergil** » January 29th, 2024, 09:39

Axel_am wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2024, 09:21
The real question is will this be better than Skyrim?

Zero percent chance. This game is destined for the bargain bin within 6 months like the Outer Worlds.

Wretch · Post by **Wretch** » January 29th, 2024, 12:41

Vergil wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2024, 09:39

Axel_am wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2024, 09:21
The real question is will this be better than Skyrim?
Zero percent chance. This game is destined for the bargain bin within 6 months like the Outer Worlds.

I think this will be significantly worse than the Outer Worlds and I consider that to be one of the worst games ever made. These awful bethclone slop games full of quirkster humor and lacking all the soul that made the original style of games enjoyable are one of the most ridiculous wasting of resources and time I have ever seen. I feel awful for the one or two competent employees trapped in these offices making the occasionally cool art design or quest idea only for it to be warped and dissected into a mockery by weak men, trannies, and girlbosses.

At least the inevitable Reddit cope posts will be amusing when the game comes out and fails miserably.

Post by **rusty_shackleford** » January 29th, 2024, 12:43

It won't be moddable therefore inherently worse than Skyrim.

Vergil · Post by **Vergil** » January 29th, 2024, 13:35

I hope they go for an epic games store exclusivity deal like they did with Outer Worlds to really smother any chance of success in the cradle again

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » January 29th, 2024, 16:03

Vergil wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2024, 13:35
I hope they go for an epic games store exclusivity deal like they did with Outer Worlds to really smother any chance of success in the cradle again

That was a Private Division decision, Microsoft isn't going to be doing that.

Element · Post by **Element** » January 29th, 2024, 17:52

Its the fucking humour and the writing in general that'll strangle it in the cradle. I can put up with bad animations, bad art, bad voice acting, lacklustre world building, even perhaps flawed gameplay. But they'll make sure to dial up the soy cringe to 11 and that's what'll make the whole experience sickening.

KnightoftheWind · Post by **KnightoftheWind** » January 29th, 2024, 18:16

It's the insistence on making every new fantasy and sci-fi work be a microcosm of modern-day California that bothers me the most. Why would a fantasy race ever stylise their hair like a zoomer?, or talk in Joss Whedon lingo?. Why would there be black dwarves or elves?, or sodomites in a post-apocalyptic world?. Their slop can't even stay consistent within it's own setting.

Breathe · Post by **Breathe** » February 6th, 2024, 01:16

lol

https://www.gamesradar.com/avowed-direc ... ox-direct/

wndrbr · Post by **wndrbr** » February 6th, 2024, 01:26

Pretty much every newspiece from Obsidian regarding this game has been negative thus far.

"No, this isn't going to be a Skyrim-like, we had to downscale the game".
"No, you can't play as Aonuma".
"No romances, you can't kill or dismiss a party member"
"No different skill trees for different classes, sorry".
"No playable dwarves or godlikes".
No playable orlans either, just humans and elves".
"Day/night cycle won't affect the gameplay in any way".
"No, there are no minigames".

I commend them for being honest, but it's kind of a funny way to market a game.

maidenhaver · Post by **maidenhaver** » February 6th, 2024, 01:28

I wanted more niggers and weak men.

Vergil · Post by **Vergil** » February 6th, 2024, 01:43

Breathe wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:16
lol

https://www.gamesradar.com/avowed-direc ... ox-direct/

It's crazy how people still fall for the "Yea everything in the trailers which are specifically designed to be the best showcases possible to interest people look like shit but the game isn't even out yet! I'm sure they can fix all of the games fundamentals in a few months

"

Rand · Post by **Rand** » February 6th, 2024, 02:07

Wretch wrote: ↑ January 29th, 2024, 12:41
I think this will be significantly worse than the Outer Worlds and I consider that to be one of the worst games ever made.

LOL!!!

Same here, more or less.

KnightoftheWind · Post by **KnightoftheWind** » February 6th, 2024, 02:18

It's going to be delayed for another year, mark my words. And after sinking another 10-20 million into it, it'll launch, fail, and be sold for half price a week later.

Roguey · Post by **Roguey** » February 6th, 2024, 03:07

wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:26
"No, there are no minigames".

How is that a negative?

wndrbr · Post by **wndrbr** » February 6th, 2024, 03:15

Roguey wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 03:07

wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:26
"No, there are no minigames".
How is that a negative?

lack of romances is also a positive thing.

I only pointed it out because Obsidian managed to reveal this in a very negative way.

Vergil · Post by **Vergil** » February 6th, 2024, 03:18

Roguey wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 03:07

wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:26
"No, there are no minigames".
How is that a negative?

It is still very awkward to market a game based off of features a game wont have.

Post by **rusty_shackleford** » February 6th, 2024, 12:30

wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:26
negative

wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:26
No romances

?

Post by **rusty_shackleford** » February 6th, 2024, 12:31

Roguey wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 03:07

wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:26
"No, there are no minigames".
How is that a negative?

so-called 'minigames' and similar are palette cleansers. Essential for a good game, but destroy it when overused.

Nammu Archag · Post by **Nammu Archag** » February 6th, 2024, 12:48

rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 12:31

Roguey wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 03:07

wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 6th, 2024, 01:26
"No, there are no minigames".
How is that a negative?
so-called 'minigames' and similar are palette cleansers. Essential for a good game, but destroy it when overused.

Any game that has a solid gambling mini-game that I can play at social hubs and equivalents automatically go up 1 point for me

wndrbr · Post by **wndrbr** » February 6th, 2024, 12:51

Yeah fuck lockpicking minigames every 5 minutes, but some nice Arcomage clone would be a good fit for almost any rpg.