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Vergil wrote: April 16th, 2024, 23:39
This makes North Korea look better btw
how much would we have to pay you to go live there?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 16th, 2024, 23:39
Vergil wrote: April 16th, 2024, 23:39
This makes North Korea look better btw
how much would we have to pay you to go live there?
I'd visit the tea girl and have a great time
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 16th, 2024, 23:39
Vergil wrote: April 16th, 2024, 23:39
This makes North Korea look better btw
how much would we have to pay you to go live there?
A life where you get a free gook wife and get to star as the villain in propaganda movies is something a lot of niggas on here would pay for.
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North Korea doesn't get jew money, that's why they are poor.
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maybe north korea is poor because communism is retarded
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North Korea isn't communist, it's just a ruse. It's in fact a theocratic dynasty.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:06
maybe north korea is poor because communism is retarded
Do you view China as a communist country?
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:08
North Korea isn't communist, it's just a ruse. It's in fact a theocratic dynasty.
It is communist. It's a command economy with a country full of workers collectives.
Vergil wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:12
Do you view China as a communist country?
China is a mixed economy. What does this have to do with north korea?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:16
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:08
North Korea isn't communist, it's just a ruse. It's in fact a theocratic dynasty.
It is communist. It's a command economy with a country full of workers collectives.
And monarchies were what?

Thinking there's only "capitalism" or "communism" (both invented by jews btw, what a coincidence!) is buying jew propaganda.

If you care to analyse well you'll see North Korea has everything similar to a historic asian dynasty.
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:17
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:16
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:08
North Korea isn't communist, it's just a ruse. It's in fact a theocratic dynasty.
It is communist. It's a command economy with a country full of workers collectives.
And monarchies were what?

Thinking there's only "capitalism" or "communism" (both invented by jews btw, what a coincidence!) is buying jew propaganda.
"were"?
There's capitalist monarchies right now.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:18
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:17
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:16

It is communist. It's a command economy with a country full of workers collectives.
And monarchies were what?

Thinking there's only "capitalism" or "communism" (both invented by jews btw, what a coincidence!) is buying jew propaganda.
"were"?
There's capitalist monarchies right now.
I obviously mean traditional monarchies, before liberalism and communism were a thing. The king commanded the economy and there were workers collectives (guilds), similar to castes, how it is in North Korea nowadays.

In communism regimes there would be a party commitee electing the next leader. Only in North Korea you have the figure of a supreme leader whose progeny inherits the government. Similar to... a dynasty.
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:19
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:18
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:17


And monarchies were what?

Thinking there's only "capitalism" or "communism" (both invented by jews btw, what a coincidence!) is buying jew propaganda.
"were"?
There's capitalist monarchies right now.
I obviously mean traditional monarchies, before liberalism and communism were a thing. The king commanded the economy and there were workers collectives (guilds)
You mean feudalism.
Communism is explicitly anti-feudalism.
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:19
n communism regimes there would be a party commitee electing the next leader.
Communist regimes where the leader was actually elected:
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:21
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:19
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:18


"were"?
There's capitalist monarchies right now.
I obviously mean traditional monarchies, before liberalism and communism were a thing. The king commanded the economy and there were workers collectives (guilds)
You mean feudalism.
Communism is explicitly anti-feudalism.
It isn't exactly feudalism as well, the asians developed different societies to the europeans, trying to mirror them to what we know of european history isn't seeing it precisely. North Korea is something nearer to what Japan was pre second world war I guess. But the point is that North Korea is effectively a dynasty and they maintain this communism ruse because they needed USSR and China to maintain their government and still needs China and Russia, and it's way more convenient to call itself communist than a dynasty of course.
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:22
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:19
n communism regimes there would be a party commitee electing the next leader.
Communist regimes where the leader was actually elected:
None of them are/were an inheritance system like North Korea. Kim Jong Un is already preparing his sister to succeed him btw, like an effective royal family.
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:28
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:21
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:19


I obviously mean traditional monarchies, before liberalism and communism were a thing. The king commanded the economy and there were workers collectives (guilds)
You mean feudalism.
Communism is explicitly anti-feudalism.
It isn't exactly feudalism as well, the asians developed different societies to the europeans, trying to mirror them to what we know of european history isn't seeing it precisely. North Korea is something nearer to what Japan was pre second world war I guess. But the point is that North Korea is effectively a dynasty and they maintain this communism ruse because they needed USSR and China to maintain their government and still needs China and Russia, and it's way more convenient to call itself communist than a dynasty of course.
In what ways aren't they communist?
"electing a leader" is not part of communism.

If you want to say they're not strictly following Marxist-Lenninist style of communism, then, fine. But they've branded their own ideology as Juche communism("Socialism of Our Style"). Any criticisms of them not being "troo communists" come down to communism just not working in reality.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:16
China is a mixed economy. What does this have to do with north korea?
Just curious since you consider North Korea still communist I was wondering if you extended that to China as well. If you did I would probably make some faggy gotcha response about that image showing China as well lit up at night.

North Korea has removed all instances of communism from it's constitution and has been liberalizing their economy over the past decade or so although admittedly not as much as China. At least they're toning down the communism larp unlike China.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:31
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:28
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:21


You mean feudalism.
Communism is explicitly anti-feudalism.
It isn't exactly feudalism as well, the asians developed different societies to the europeans, trying to mirror them to what we know of european history isn't seeing it precisely. North Korea is something nearer to what Japan was pre second world war I guess. But the point is that North Korea is effectively a dynasty and they maintain this communism ruse because they needed USSR and China to maintain their government and still needs China and Russia, and it's way more convenient to call itself communist than a dynasty of course.
In what ways aren't they communist?
"electing a leader" is not part of communism.

If you want to say they're not strictly following Marxist-Lenninist style of communism, then, fine. But they've branded their own ideology as Juche communism("Socialism of Our Style"). Any criticisms of them not being "troo communists" come down to communism just not working in reality.
In every communist regimes as far as I know the leaders are elected by a central party commitee, not in a typical democracy like you're thinking but it's still an election, and if you care to see well none of them had their family inherit the government ad eternum. Except North Korea.

As I said, it's a ruse.
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Vergil wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:34
North Korea has removed all instances of communism from it's constitution
https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20210601170100504
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:34
In every communist regimes as far as I know the leaders are elected by a central party commitee, not in a typical democracy like you're thinking but it's still an election, and if you care to see well none of them had their family inherit the government ad eternum. Except North Korea.

As I said, it's a ruse.
They just cut out the middleman. Arguing over how the leader is picked to attempt to refute that they're communist seems like grasping at straws to me. Exactly what nations that exist right now would you consider to be closer to akshual communism than north korea?

Might as well start saying America isn't a capitalist nation. Because it's not, it's a mixed economy.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:40
Vergil wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:34
North Korea has removed all instances of communism from it's constitution
https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20210601170100504
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:34
In every communist regimes as far as I know the leaders are elected by a central party commitee, not in a typical democracy like you're thinking but it's still an election, and if you care to see well none of them had their family inherit the government ad eternum. Except North Korea.

As I said, it's a ruse.
They just cut out the middleman. Arguing over how the leader is picked to attempt to refute that they're communist seems like grasping at straws to me. Exactly what nations that exist right now would you consider to be closer to akshual communism than north korea?

Might as well start saying America isn't a capitalist nation. Because it's not, it's a mixed economy.
If I had to guess I'd say Cuba. But honestly I think communism is ded (it was never alive honestly, it was always just a jew ruse) and what we see nowadays are just LARPers adapting how they can to survive against the jews.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:40
Exactly what nations that exist right now would you consider to be closer to akshual communism than north korea?
Basically none except maybe Cuba (I don't know much about how the modern Cuban government is run). Communism is a borderline extinct and geopolitically irrelevant ideology that died it's death in the 20th century.
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:42
If I had to guess I'd say Cuba. But honestly I think communism is ded (it was never alive honestly, it was always just a jew ruse) and what we see nowadays are just LARPers adapting how they can to survive against the jews.
Cuba allows private ownership of businesses. The only private corporation that operates in north korea I'm aware of is a joint cooperation with a foreign company to provide cellphone service.
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Vergil wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:50
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:40
Exactly what nations that exist right now would you consider to be closer to akshual communism than north korea?
Basically none except maybe Cuba (I don't know much about how the modern Cuban government is run). Communism is a borderline extinct and geopolitically irrelevant ideology that died it's death in the 20th century.
Thanks for saying the same thing I did using different words :read:
rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:51
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 00:42
If I had to guess I'd say Cuba. But honestly I think communism is ded (it was never alive honestly, it was always just a jew ruse) and what we see nowadays are just LARPers adapting how they can to survive against the jews.
Cuba allows private ownership of businesses. The only private corporation that operates in north korea I'm aware of is a joint cooperation with a foreign company to provide cellphone service.
Sure, I mean more in a holistic sense (government, society, also economy etc). Under a purely economic standpoint any absolutist medieval monarchy would've been considered communist as well. But as I said communism is just ded
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 01:01
Under a purely economic standpoint any absolutist medieval monarchy would've been considered communist as well.
Feudalist societies were not command economies. They were much closer to modern mixed economies than North Korea's economy.
The main difference in feudalism to modern mixed economies would be the exchange of land for service, obviously.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 17th, 2024, 01:04
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 01:01
Under a purely economic standpoint any absolutist medieval monarchy would've been considered communist as well.
Feudalist societies were not command economies. They were much closer to modern mixed economies than North Korea's economy.
I think you're overestimating the government control over individual lives. In North Korea the economy is planned and under the state's control, but in an individual level people can choose what they want to do with their lives.
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 01:01
Thanks for saying the same thing I did using different words :read:
Was writing my post before yours existed and I didn't read yours anyway. :read:
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Vergil wrote: April 17th, 2024, 01:11
Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 01:01
Thanks for saying the same thing I did using different words :read:
Was writing my post before yours existed and I didn't read yours anyway. :read:
I know it was a coincidence, but I couldn't not notice it and mention it :ugeek: , especially considering this is a rather unusual take
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Anon wrote: April 17th, 2024, 01:12
especially considering this is a rather unusual take
I'm built different, I'm him.
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Vergil wrote: April 16th, 2024, 21:40
>that's man-made, and one experiences it only when you return to earth
So are laws against rape you stupid bitch now assume the position
Finally some rape appreciation in this forum.
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