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Chris
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Different Heads for Yannis and Ramona

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I'd like to comment about a couple of characters at the beginning of Act 3:

One of them is Sister Yannis. Originally a halfling, now a regular human.
The other one is... actually a whole family of refugees. They were originally originally dwarves, now they're regular humans.

Wouldn't make it more sense if them would have stayed what they were?
The sister is part of that all inclusive religion, and the family are refugees treated like second class citizen.

And what I would argue is the worst part is that both the sister and the mother share the same exact face, a face that is a extremely recognizable one, wouldn't you agree, petal ?

(Seeing Ethel again totally broke my immersion... twice.)
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Chris wrote: May 29th, 2025, 22:55
I'd like to comment about a couple of characters at the beginning of Act 3:

One of them is Sister Yannis. Originally a halfling, now a regular human.
The other one is... actually a whole family of refugees. They were originally originally dwarves, now they're regular humans.

Wouldn't make it more sense if them would have stayed what they were?
The sister is part of that all inclusive religion, and the family are refugees treated like second class citizen.

And what I would argue is the worst part is that both the sister and the mother share the same exact face, a face that is a extremely recognizable one, wouldn't you agree, petal ?

(Seeing Ethel again totally broke my immersion... twice.)
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We'll take that into consideration.
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Chris wrote: May 29th, 2025, 22:55
I'd like to comment about a couple of characters at the beginning of Act 3:

One of them is Sister Yannis. Originally a halfling, now a regular human.
The other one is... actually a whole family of refugees. They were originally originally dwarves, now they're regular humans.

Wouldn't make it more sense if them would have stayed what they were?
The sister is part of that all inclusive religion, and the family are refugees treated like second class citizen.

And what I would argue is the worst part is that both the sister and the mother share the same exact face, a face that is a extremely recognizable one, wouldn't you agree, petal ?

(Seeing Ethel again totally broke my immersion... twice.)
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upon closer inspection. We've found that there's no alternative Elderly Female Heads, so Ethel will be dotted around bg3. And it simply is not worth changing each elderly manually to a different young head and playing with all sorts of settings to get NPCs looking sufficiently old.

You can blame larian for being lazy. Good news is Yannis and Ramona at least will get a custom head treatment. But we won't go out of our way to remove all these elderly female heads just to make Ethel stand out.
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ModdersHQ wrote: May 30th, 2025, 02:11
Good news is Yannis and Ramona at least will get a custom head treatment.
Wouldn't restoring them to vanilla be enough? (and easier)

Didn't my argument about second class citizens and "all inclusive" (everyone is welcome) hold water?

Just asking out of curiosity, I have not any "special interest" on those specific characters whatsoever. Just trying to help by giving my (reasoned) opinion. :voting:
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Chris wrote: May 30th, 2025, 07:36
ModdersHQ wrote: May 30th, 2025, 02:11
Good news is Yannis and Ramona at least will get a custom head treatment.
Wouldn't restoring them to vanilla be enough? (and easier)

Didn't my argument about second class citizens and "all inclusive" (everyone is welcome) hold water?

Just asking out of curiosity, I have not any "special interest" on those specific characters whatsoever. Just trying to help by giving my (reasoned) opinion. :voting:
No. One of them is a nigger halfling. Another is a family of yet another midget couple that should be a straight white normal bodied couple.

In those days people used to treat ppl the next village over with wariness and suspicion. Nothing wrong worth calling a stranger from irebor or elturel a second class citizen
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ModdersHQ wrote: May 30th, 2025, 02:11
Chris wrote: May 29th, 2025, 22:55
I'd like to comment about a couple of characters at the beginning of Act 3:

One of them is Sister Yannis. Originally a halfling, now a regular human.
The other one is... actually a whole family of refugees. They were originally originally dwarves, now they're regular humans.

Wouldn't make it more sense if them would have stayed what they were?
The sister is part of that all inclusive religion, and the family are refugees treated like second class citizen.

And what I would argue is the worst part is that both the sister and the mother share the same exact face, a face that is a extremely recognizable one, wouldn't you agree, petal ?

(Seeing Ethel again totally broke my immersion... twice.)
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upon closer inspection. We've found that there's no alternative Elderly Female Heads, so Ethel will be dotted around bg3. And it simply is not worth changing each elderly manually to a different young head and playing with all sorts of settings to get NPCs looking sufficiently old.

You can blame larian for being lazy. Good news is Yannis and Ramona at least will get a custom head treatment. But we won't go out of our way to remove all these elderly female heads just to make Ethel stand out.
Have you seen this mod? Could lift one of of those heads to use for her, perhaps.
https://mod.io/g/baldursgate3/m/old-heads#description
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FMLS wrote: June 5th, 2025, 01:07
ModdersHQ wrote: May 30th, 2025, 02:11
Chris wrote: May 29th, 2025, 22:55
I'd like to comment about a couple of characters at the beginning of Act 3:

One of them is Sister Yannis. Originally a halfling, now a regular human.
The other one is... actually a whole family of refugees. They were originally originally dwarves, now they're regular humans.

Wouldn't make it more sense if them would have stayed what they were?
The sister is part of that all inclusive religion, and the family are refugees treated like second class citizen.

And what I would argue is the worst part is that both the sister and the mother share the same exact face, a face that is a extremely recognizable one, wouldn't you agree, petal ?

(Seeing Ethel again totally broke my immersion... twice.)
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upon closer inspection. We've found that there's no alternative Elderly Female Heads, so Ethel will be dotted around bg3. And it simply is not worth changing each elderly manually to a different young head and playing with all sorts of settings to get NPCs looking sufficiently old.

You can blame larian for being lazy. Good news is Yannis and Ramona at least will get a custom head treatment. But we won't go out of our way to remove all these elderly female heads just to make Ethel stand out.
Have you seen this mod? Could lift one of of those heads to use for her, perhaps.
https://mod.io/g/baldursgate3/m/old-heads#description
Not a single (new) unique head in sight, only vanilla or unique NPCs. It's an old mod from Sep 2024 when people just mined those heads (multiple modders I mean) and they were putting it in packs or stand-alone heads for people who wanted mature looks, but now ALL are easily accessible from Toolkit.
But thanks for suggestion!
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