CD Projekt RED aka Polish Bioware thread
Posted: March 21st, 2023, 02:29
yeah i know this guy doesn't work at CDPR anymore, but still.
Turns out CDPR and The Molasses Flood (american studio that made The Flame in the Flood) were developing a "co-op survival Witcher game with proc-generated content, aimed at a wider audience".The aforementioned decision is based on results of evaluation of the scope and commercial potential of the original concept of Project Sirius, and ongoing work on formulating a new framework for this project.
haha. Sapkowskiy sold his ass to Netflix of all corpos. He'll be happy with CDPR as long as they are paying him royalties.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ March 21st, 2023, 03:50If the author has any legal control over The Witcher's game license, it would be best if he revoked it now. The Tolkien approach is best nowadays, without question.
Then I suppose his work really does mean little to him, oh well. If the author himself doesn't care why should we?.wndrbr wrote: ↑ March 21st, 2023, 04:32haha. Sapkowskiy sold his ass to Netflix of all corpos. He'll be happy with CDPR as long as they are paying him royalties.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ March 21st, 2023, 03:50If the author has any legal control over The Witcher's game license, it would be best if he revoked it now. The Tolkien approach is best nowadays, without question.
You'll be forced to hire them at threat of imprisonment.The_Mask wrote: ↑ March 31st, 2023, 23:23All this does is incentivize the hiring of men. Like... this pretty much sends women back 100, if not 200 years or more, as far as treatment and societal view goes.
The more I process the tweet, the more hilarious I find it, in the sense that feminism has come full circle and is now basically holding women back more than any man could.
Feminism: not even once.
Over/under on protagonist being a female Witcher? Bonus points if open world again.wndrbr wrote: ↑ April 1st, 2023, 05:07btw they basically announced the fourth Witcher game. During the recent investors call Adam Kicinski called their upcoming Project Polaris "The Witcher 4" by accident.
Alhamdulillah.The_Mask wrote: ↑ March 31st, 2023, 23:23All this does is incentivize the hiring of men. Like... this pretty much sends women back 100, if not 200 years or more, as far as treatment and societal view goes.
Get ready for some TW3-tier open world, complete with copypasted monster lairs, bandit camps and crates with level-scaled loot.BosanskiSeljak wrote: ↑ May 8th, 2023, 07:18Waiting to hear some more about that Witcher 1 remake. Masochism is a beautiful thing, can't wait to see troons destroy one of my favourite gaming memories.
Gothic & Witcher 1, two of my favourite atmospheres in any games set to be destroyed. F.wndrbr wrote: ↑ May 9th, 2023, 09:09Get ready for some TW3-tier open world, complete with copypasted monster lairs, bandit camps and crates with level-scaled loot.
Of course, you're not allowed to have a game in *current year* that features collectible sex cards, non open-world, interesting side quests that weave into the main narrative, etc. Re-education is required.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 9th, 2023, 20:42I feel that the entire point of a remake is to replace the original
Remakes are an important tactic of all cultural revolutions.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 9th, 2023, 20:42I feel that the entire point of a remake is to replace the original, that is the only artistic reason I can think of to even pursue such an endeavour in the first place. If the team involved in the remake is in no way connected to the original members whatsoever, then they should check their egos and "ideas" at the door and strive to emulate the original version in both intent and art direction. Do not strive to alter the original framework beyond recognition, otherwise you might as well be making something entirely new.
That is the difference between the remake of Resident Evil and Metroid Prime Remastered, vs the remakes of Resident Evil 2/3/4 and Final Fantasy VII. While the former can completely supplant the original, the latter cannot because it is a distinct re-imagining. It is the latter type that can seldom be called a "remake", because the ego of it's developers would not allow them to faithfully recreate their respective titles in both intent and art direction. They completely alter the games' story, gameplay, visual design, etc.
In practice and in the year 2023, yes. But in an ideal sense, the purpose to which all developers of remakes should aspire to is to replace the original version. With Resident Evil and Metroid Prime, the only reasons to play their respective OG versions is for historical reasons. Just because you're curious or want to preserve what those games were like as they released. As games and as works of art though, their remakes are for all intents and purposes the definitive editions of both titles. But when devs 'dont' aspire to do good or aren't motivated by reasons other than profit and spreading (((the message))), you get games like Dead Space and Resident Evil 4. Denuvo-infested, ESG-driven products only made for consoomers to purchase and forget about a month or two after the fact. They won't go down as all-time classics, just a thing that happened and was mildly interesting for a time.maidenhaver wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 00:47Remakes are an important tactic of all cultural revolutions.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 9th, 2023, 20:42I feel that the entire point of a remake is to replace the original, that is the only artistic reason I can think of to even pursue such an endeavour in the first place. If the team involved in the remake is in no way connected to the original members whatsoever, then they should check their egos and "ideas" at the door and strive to emulate the original version in both intent and art direction. Do not strive to alter the original framework beyond recognition, otherwise you might as well be making something entirely new.
That is the difference between the remake of Resident Evil and Metroid Prime Remastered, vs the remakes of Resident Evil 2/3/4 and Final Fantasy VII. While the former can completely supplant the original, the latter cannot because it is a distinct re-imagining. It is the latter type that can seldom be called a "remake", because the ego of it's developers would not allow them to faithfully recreate their respective titles in both intent and art direction. They completely alter the games' story, gameplay, visual design, etc.
Pathologic --> Pathologic 2 & Geneforge 1 --> Geneforge 1 - Mutagen are a couple of good examples of that.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 01:23But in an ideal sense, the purpose to which all developers of remakes should aspire to is to replace the original version.
Whether we like it or not CD Projekt Red isn't a small developer anymore, they are now playing the same ball game as Activision and Ubisoft. They are in it to make as much money, and sell to as many people as possible. The CD Projekt that made the Witcher 3 isn't the same CD Projekt that made Cyberpunk, their bad working conditions chased out most of their old talent. Now they will coast off brand recognition. Don't expect a faithful, creatively-driven remake of the first Witcher. It's going to be a successor to 3 and nothing but. Which means open world and minimaps!.BosanskiSeljak wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 02:35Pathologic --> Pathologic 2 & Geneforge 1 --> Geneforge 1 - Mutagen are a couple of good examples of that.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 01:23But in an ideal sense, the purpose to which all developers of remakes should aspire to is to replace the original version.
Both of those were respectable (Geneforge a little iffy depending on who you ask), but it will pale in comparison to the bullshit they're gonna pull with Witcher 1 remake. Gothic remake will go the same way. KOTOR as well, if that will even be released.
Implying they weren't already cucked by the time they made Twitcher 3. They had one game, Twitcher 1, and immediately swerved into console shit AAA developer syndrome for Twitcher 2KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 02:38The CD Projekt that made the Witcher 3 isn't the same CD Projekt that made Cyberpunk
You are probably correct but I'm going to remain optimistic about the Gothic remake until I see a concrete reason not to. This is coming from someone who hated the vertical slice so much that I found the Codex and joined it during a fit of rage-googling after playing it.BosanskiSeljak wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 02:35Pathologic --> Pathologic 2 & Geneforge 1 --> Geneforge 1 - Mutagen are a couple of good examples of that.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 01:23But in an ideal sense, the purpose to which all developers of remakes should aspire to is to replace the original version.
Both of those were respectable (Geneforge a little iffy depending on who you ask), but it will pale in comparison to the bullshit they're gonna pull with Witcher 1 remake. Gothic remake will go the same way. KOTOR as well, if that will even be released.
The Witcher 3 is a great game, if a very uncreative one mechanically. I enjoyed playing through it as a one-er, I liked the environments I visited and the quests I did. It felt like one grand adventure, with characters along the way reappearing in future quests unexpectedly (Like Master Mirror). The setpieces were very well done, some of the best in the genre as a matter of fact.BosanskiSeljak wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 02:47Implying they weren't already cucked by the time they made Twitcher 3. They had one game, Twitcher 1, and immediately swerved into console shit AAA developer syndrome for Twitcher 2KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 02:38The CD Projekt that made the Witcher 3 isn't the same CD Projekt that made Cyberpunk
That's because Hearts of Stone was probably the best part of all 3 Witcher games honestly. As for the rest, I don't know how someone can slog through 100+ hours of that game. Environments are *pretty* but lack atmosphere that the other two had, especially 1. Apart from Hearts of Stone, and something like Bloody Baron/maybe the Crones, the game is largely unmemorable. As you said, set pieces, but that's what makes people not look past the surface to see a very generic fantasy game with a plot that's meh at best and muchhh worse than the previous games.
It has the best atmosphere and music of the 3 games and doesn't suffer from the bullshit inventory/stats bloat of the others. Side quests are nicely woven into the overarching plot so don't skip them, you won't be running around slaying useless bandit camps. I will say however, that the prologue/intro of Witcher 1 is definitely not good. There's lots of little things that are great and show the care of CD Projekt within their small budget, but it's forgettable. I don't think the graphics aged poorly, lighting, details and even stuff like trees swaying in the wind are all there. With a modern PC, you can make the graphics pretty nice.
Straight from the website: "A modernized combat system that takes the basic premises of the original combat system and opens it up to a new generation of gamers."GhostCow wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 02:51You are probably correct but I'm going to remain optimistic about the Gothic remake until I see a concrete reason not to.
Switch Witcher with B&W, and W3 with W2 and that's how I see them. I couldn't get into Blood & Wine because it was just more of the same bullshit in W3 that I didn't enjoy, it's just less painful because there's no Ciri & space elves.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 03:15HoS >> B&W >>>> Witcher >>>>>>> Witcher 3 >>>>>>>> Witcher 2
Genuinely a mystery how they managed to hit gold with Witcher 3's DLCs inbetween the base game & Cyberpunk.
BosanskiSeljak wrote: ↑ May 10th, 2023, 03:20Straight from the website: "A modernized combat system that takes the basic premises of the original combat system and opens it up to a new generation of gamers."
That's already a red flag.
I'm also not a fan of the screenshots that came out. Even Piranha Bytes proved they don't understand how they achieved the atmosphere in Gothic that everyone loved, so this *modern day graphics* shit done by a different studio doesn't give me much hope.
The cynical side of me is still waiting to see how they'll force some "strong" female character into it as well, but that's just a guess. Though, all released information doesn't give me much hope for it unfortunately.