RPGHQ Responds to Misrepresentation in Academic Research

[rusty_shackleford]

@rusty_shackleford , any news?

I'll post an update later

[boot]

Call me cameraboy in your papers darling, it's Latin for I fuck you well

[BobT]

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On the edge of my seat, Rusty!

[rusty_shackleford]

@rusty_shackleford , any news?

I'll post an update later

On the edge of my seat, Rusty!

Later: sometime between now and the end of life

[Tweed]

Fake and gay.

[rusty_shackleford]

@rusty_shackleford , any news?

I'll post an update later

Eva Maria-Voight's email:

Dear Rusty Shackleford,

Please excuse my delayed response.

In your email, you mentioned that a student from the Institute of Social Sciences has used your data in a master's thesis without properly citing the sources. According to the central regulations of HU, this could be considered as academic misconduct. The responsible examination committee decides on such cases.

Here are the steps you can take:

Inform the responsible examination committee that you suspect misconduct in the master's thesis. Provide the name of the person and point out the specific sections in the work that are problematic.

The examination committee will request a statement from the person concerned.

Based on the person's statements and your information, the examination committee will make a decision.

I assume that the responsible examination committee is the examination committee for social sciences (Sozialwissenschaften). Here are the contact details: https://fakultaeten.hu-berlin.de/de/ksb ... mlehre/PAs

Best regards,

Eva-Maria Voigt

I haven't followed up on this yet. I feel like I'm going to keep getting the runaround, but I'm not going to stop.

Also, it seems her email is completely uninformed about the issue to begin with.

[Xenich]

@rusty_shackleford , any news?

I'll post an update later

Eva Maria-Voight's email:

Dear Rusty Shackleford,

Please excuse my delayed response.

In your email, you mentioned that a student from the Institute of Social Sciences has used your data in a master's thesis without properly citing the sources. According to the central regulations of HU, this could be considered as academic misconduct. The responsible examination committee decides on such cases.

Here are the steps you can take:

Inform the responsible examination committee that you suspect misconduct in the master's thesis. Provide the name of the person and point out the specific sections in the work that are problematic.

The examination committee will request a statement from the person concerned.

Based on the person's statements and your information, the examination committee will make a decision.

I assume that the responsible examination committee is the examination committee for social sciences (Sozialwissenschaften). Here are the contact details: https://fakultaeten.hu-berlin.de/de/ksb ... mlehre/PAs

Best regards,

Eva-Maria Voigt

I haven't followed up on this yet. I feel like I'm going to keep getting the runaround, but I'm not going to stop.

Also, it seems her email is completely uninformed about the issue to begin with.

It's how they do. They won't get off their ass concerning this until a fire is lit.

Companies do the same thing, you get the run around until a lawyer sends a legal notice, then shit gets done.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's how they do. They won't get off their ass concerning this until a fire is lit.

I need a karengf

[7Trickster]

"social science"
unemployed science more like

Worst case that nasty bugger will get a slap on the hand. I'm surprised they replied though. Thought they wouldn't give a rat's ass about it.

[ERYFKRAD]

@rusty_shackleford , any news?

I'll post an update later

Eva Maria-Voight's email:

Dear Rusty Shackleford,

Please excuse my delayed response.

In your email, you mentioned that a student from the Institute of Social Sciences has used your data in a master's thesis without properly citing the sources. According to the central regulations of HU, this could be considered as academic misconduct. The responsible examination committee decides on such cases.

Here are the steps you can take:

Inform the responsible examination committee that you suspect misconduct in the master's thesis. Provide the name of the person and point out the specific sections in the work that are problematic.

The examination committee will request a statement from the person concerned.

Based on the person's statements and your information, the examination committee will make a decision.

I assume that the responsible examination committee is the examination committee for social sciences (Sozialwissenschaften). Here are the contact details: https://fakultaeten.hu-berlin.de/de/ksb ... mlehre/PAs

Best regards,

Eva-Maria Voigt

I haven't followed up on this yet. I feel like I'm going to keep getting the runaround, but I'm not going to stop.

Also, it seems her email is completely uninformed about the issue to begin with.

Why can't she even be arsed to confirm if the examination committee for social sciences is the correct point of contact?

[DagothGeas5]

It's how they do. They won't get off their ass concerning this until a fire is lit.

I need a karengf

Not sure how much could this help, but LegalMindset https://www.youtube.com/@LegalMindset/streams and PotentiallyCriminal https://www.youtube.com/@PotentiallyCriminal/streams are two lawyers that I recall gave aid to others in the past, if not themselves, they sent the askers to their connections and friends to have aid in such discourse, ESPECIALLY when it comes to this sort of woke shit. Thank you for holding your ground rusty!

[TKVNC]

You have to threaten them with legal action or they will do nothing.

[7Trickster]

You have to threaten them with legal action or they will do nothing.

Problem is that it's outside US Justice system.
You can't apply US laws to EU.

However there are strict data laws in EU so maybe there's something to mine there ? Not sure. It's called GDPR : https://gdpr-info.eu/

[TKVNC]

You have to threaten them with legal action or they will do nothing.

Problem is that it's outside US Justice system.
You can't apply US laws to EU.

However there are strict data laws in EU so maybe there's something to mine there ? Not sure.

Well, you can file a case in Germany, using German law.

It's still a civil (and in some instances, criminal) offence

[7Trickster]

You have to threaten them with legal action or they will do nothing.

Problem is that it's outside US Justice system.
You can't apply US laws to EU.

However there are strict data laws in EU so maybe there's something to mine there ? Not sure.

Well, you can file a case in Germany, using German law.

It's still a civil (and in some instances, criminal) offence

oh I see, that may be why the old hag from that establishment bothered to reply then

[TKVNC]

Problem is that it's outside US Justice system.
You can't apply US laws to EU.

However there are strict data laws in EU so maybe there's something to mine there ? Not sure.

Well, you can file a case in Germany, using German law.

It's still a civil (and in some instances, criminal) offence

oh I see, that may be why the old hag from that establishment bothered to reply then

Seems topical now, but it's deny and delay, and defend.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I haven't followed up on this yet. I feel like I'm going to keep getting the runaround, but I'm not going to stop.

Also, it seems her email is completely uninformed about the issue to begin with.

I agree with the others that the university isn’t going to do
anything about it unless they get threaten with legal action unfortunately.

[logincrash]

LegalMindset

Legal Dicksucker is more like it.

[Tweed]

Nothing ever happens.

[WhiteShark]

In your email, you mentioned that a student from the Institute of Social Sciences has used your data in a master's thesis without properly citing the sources.

I don't think she actually read your complaint.

[SpellSword]

I haven't followed up on this yet. I feel like I'm going to keep getting the runaround, but I'm not going to stop.

Also, it seems her email is completely uninformed about the issue to begin with.

I agree with the others that the university isn’t going to do
anything about it unless they get threaten with legal action unfortunately.

Keep records of everything.

If you bring the law into it their actions, and also inaction in this case, could really come back to bite them. This wouldn't be the first time a university got itself in shit for allowing a ''researcher'' to do something stupid. Example: How a university got itself banned from the Linux kernel (The Verge)

[J1M]

These employees have never seen one of these complaints. Takes them a week to figure out which email to pass the buck to.

[boot]

Fuck it we should spam them

[Gastrick]

So instead of calling rusty a jew in the original post, he made a post to be called a jew directly.

Ms. Stürenburg has awoken Rusty’s spiritual Judaism—which has ignited a chain reaction of chutzpah-fueled ambition. Now armed with a possible lawsuit that could render HQ Platinum more useless than matzah at a bagel shop, Rusty’s joy has reached transcendent levels. He’s practically kvelling, just one lox platter away from litigating his way to the promised land.

I'm not seeking any sort of monetary compensation.

If they're breaking the law, you should be able to fuck them over in some way, or at least keep the option available as what you could do.

[BobT]

Interesting she took stuff from the member's only areas, too. Meaning it wasn't even just implicit acceptance of contract, but she literally accepted the forum terms (including ownership of data) on sign-up, then decided to intentionally breach them for her own benefit..

Be funny if the research started to be collected around when someone called Durge signed up..

[Tweed]

I guess you'll have to call the King of Education or whatever they have over there.

[rusty_shackleford]

Be funny if the research started to be collected around when someone called Durge signed up..

hehe, didn't durge show back up again around the time this happened?

[Jordy]

Interesting she took stuff from the member's only areas, too. Meaning it wasn't even just implicit acceptance of contract, but she literally accepted the forum terms (including ownership of data) on sign-up, then decided to intentionally breach them for her own benefit..

Be funny if the research started to be collected around when someone called Durge signed up..

For anyone wondering who/what this is referring to.

viewtopic.php?p=71623-no-alphabets-5-2- ... e-3#p71623

[WhiteShark]

Interesting she took stuff from the member's only areas, too. Meaning it wasn't even just implicit acceptance of contract, but she literally accepted the forum terms (including ownership of data) on sign-up, then decided to intentionally breach them for her own benefit..

Be funny if the research started to be collected around when someone called Durge signed up..

For anyone wondering who/what this is referring to.

viewtopic.php?p=71623-no-alphabets-5-2- ... e-3#p71623

Probably not her. She claims to be from Finland, and she certainly doesn't write like a German academic.

[Acrux]

Whiteshark's question may have been prescient.

I am curious about one thing @AliciaDurge: did you come to this board to complain about No Alphabets and then decide to stick around, or did you have a different reason to join RPGHQ?

I was looking for RPG forums and found this randomly, and then joined.