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They're both great
it's like PST to BG. Urban setting, tons of walking and talking, the amount of combat encounters can be counted on one hand. I'd say it's pretty good, but if you want to travel the wastes, blast raiders and loot stuff, then Trudograd won't be your cup of tea.Fargus wrote: ↑ February 22nd, 2023, 00:16Can't say i like Atom. But it's not a bad game. They put a lot of effort into it. Is Trudograd any good?
That's strange. I mean why bother adding power armor then?wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 22nd, 2023, 01:25it's like PST to BG. Urban setting, tons of walking and talking, the amount of combat encounters can be counted on one hand.Fargus wrote: ↑ February 22nd, 2023, 00:16Can't say i like Atom. But it's not a bad game. They put a lot of effort into it. Is Trudograd any good?
Any person that has an answer to that question have played both games and at that point you can ignore that person's opinion in most games. He clearly lacks any taste in gaming.Shillitron wrote: ↑ February 22nd, 2023, 00:21The real question, what's worse? Fallout 3 or Fallout 4.
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Because it's cool.Fargus wrote: ↑ February 22nd, 2023, 01:36That's strange. I mean why bother adding power armor then?wndrbr wrote: ↑ February 22nd, 2023, 01:25it's like PST to BG. Urban setting, tons of walking and talking, the amount of combat encounters can be counted on one hand.Fargus wrote: ↑ February 22nd, 2023, 00:16Can't say i like Atom. But it's not a bad game. They put a lot of effort into it. Is Trudograd any good?
I found 3 to be better than 4 because it had that strange uncanny valley quality where nothing quite made sense. It was like you were playing in a fever dream, but not really.
I found the whole game kind of disturbing, like you were inside the mind of an asylum patient. It wasnt just zany, it was bonkers, but it was not self aware at all, it was like the writers werent in on the joke.
That quality to me sets it apart from 4, which is mostly by the numbers, competent shooting, and built almost like fallout 2 was. With an inconsistent tone, where every location feels like it belongs to an entirely different region, even if they are just a street away. But overall toothless, harmless, dumb.
In a way fallout 3 is bethesdas attempt at making fallout 1, while 4 is their attempt at trying to make fallout 2.
tl;dr: fallout 3 made me feel something, fallout 4 was just existential dread for all 3 hours it lasted on my computer. That said they are both shit, the first one just seems to at least have a soul.
I found the whole game kind of disturbing, like you were inside the mind of an asylum patient. It wasnt just zany, it was bonkers, but it was not self aware at all, it was like the writers werent in on the joke.
That quality to me sets it apart from 4, which is mostly by the numbers, competent shooting, and built almost like fallout 2 was. With an inconsistent tone, where every location feels like it belongs to an entirely different region, even if they are just a street away. But overall toothless, harmless, dumb.
In a way fallout 3 is bethesdas attempt at making fallout 1, while 4 is their attempt at trying to make fallout 2.
tl;dr: fallout 3 made me feel something, fallout 4 was just existential dread for all 3 hours it lasted on my computer. That said they are both shit, the first one just seems to at least have a soul.
I genuinely enjoyed both F1 and F2. I thought F2 was better on the whole, perhaps because I played that game first — but no pop culture references bothered me in either game. Honestly they were on par with other RPGs of the time. That kind of thing was expected because in the late 90s RPGs were not a "serious business".
Love both, and FO:NV as well. All good stuff.
Love both, and FO:NV as well. All good stuff.
Fallout 3 is just a bunch of shitty cargo cultish quests from people who didn't (and still don't) understand why Fallout was any good. And also some stolen plotlines from Star Trek: Voyager.