What do you consider porn to be? (NSFW, obviously)

[Anon]

A = Pretty much porn.
B = Porn.
C = Bordering porn.
D = That is a ninja.

RPGHQ's(hereafter referred to as 'HQ') Rules:
[*] NSFW Content,

1. NSFW content in a post must either be put behind a spoiler, or in a thread appropriately labeled as NSFW. It's just polite.
2. Avatars must be SFW. If you choose an animated avatar, it must be sensibly animated, no flashing lights. No other restrictions, but prefer a gaming avatar.
3. Signatures must be SFW.
4. No pornography. If deemed obscene, it will be removed. This does not apply to mere nudity — "I know it when I see it"

The rules being a bit loose ("I know it when I see it") seems fine to me. Has there been an event that I missed where the Baldur's Gate 3 fans increased their enthusiasm of bears too an even higher level or is this preemptive to head off an even greater cataclysm?

As long as it is behind a spoiler and labeled I'm fine with it.

► Historically Accurate Gunslinging

We're far from being ancient Christians, darling

Yes, it's something we definitely need to work on.

Off Topic

C didn't load for me because reasons.

C isn't loading for me either. A, B & D are. However if I right click and the select "Open image in New Tab" I can still view it. I've seen this happen with other images on the forum and I'm not sure what is causing it.

holy shit this post is a huge mess good work

[WhiteShark]

I was informed by a very reliable source that the video I posted and this image are in fact equivalent.

No, you were told they're both pornography, and even were that true, that wouldn't make them equivalent, no more than calling two different people 'human' makes them equivalent. Pornography is a broad category. Anyway, I know you know this, so I'm just asking that you remove the video that we both agree is pornography.

[rusty_shackleford]

I was informed by a very reliable source that the video I posted and this image are in fact equivalent.

No, you were told they're both pornography, and even were that true, that wouldn't make them equivalent, no more than calling two different people 'human' makes them equivalent. Pornography is a broad category. Anyway, I know you know this, so I'm just asking that you remove the video that we both agree is pornography.

So you agree that there are multiple definitions for pornography that include both the merely erotic and those that depict sexual acts?

[TKVNC]

C isn't loading for me either. A, B & D are. However if I right click and the select "Open image in New Tab" I can still view it. I've seen this happen with other images on the forum and I'm not sure what is causing it.[/offtopic]

It worked, now I can comment fairly, since I was able to actually check the image.

A - Porn
B - Porn
C - Not Porn, though perhaps coomerbait.
D - Not Porn (but as I said before) coomerbait.

[WhiteShark]

So you agree that there are multiple definitions for pornography that include both the merely erotic and those that depict sexual acts?

I wouldn't call those separate definitions, but I do agree that there are different subcategories of pornography, softcore and hardcore being the standard terms used to describe the two subcategories you list.

[KnightoftheWind]

Women in bikinis are more provocative than articles A, C and D lol. If you find any of those to be porn or "coomerbait", you'd have to be an old protestant boomer.

[rusty_shackleford]

I hope to be clear to everyone that I wasn't attacking anyone who feels like I did, I was just trying to poke until I got some answers.

[OnTilt]

I was informed by a very reliable source that the video I posted and this image are in fact equivalent.

No, you were told they're both pornography, and even were that true, that wouldn't make them equivalent, no more than calling two different people 'human' makes them equivalent. Pornography is a broad category. Anyway, I know you know this, so I'm just asking that you remove the video that we both agree is pornography.

Right, there are degrees. This is why there are different sub-categories like soft, hard, etc. I really don't understand what's so hard about the definition aspect. "Was it designed to titillate" seems pretty direct to me. I understand there will be grey areas where you can't tell for sure, like the covers of some of the magazines that were posted. I also understand if Rusty wants to allow certain degrees of pornography inside of dedicated threads or behind NSFW filter (I don't agree, but I understand).

But all this "Well akchually there is no definition" bit is honestly going over my head or something. I just don't get how we can not know or understand the definition.

[TKVNC]

old protestant boomer.

How dare you call me a protestant.

[Anon]

I was informed by a very reliable source that the video I posted and this image are in fact equivalent.

No, you were told they're both pornography, and even were that true, that wouldn't make them equivalent, no more than calling two different people 'human' makes them equivalent. Pornography is a broad category. Anyway, I know you know this, so I'm just asking that you remove the video that we both agree is pornography.

Right, there are degrees. This is why there are different sub-categories like soft, hard, etc. I really don't understand what's so hard about the definition aspect. "Was it designed to titillate" seems pretty direct to me. I understand there will be grey areas where you can't tell for sure, like the covers of some of the magazines that were posted. I also understand if Rusty wants to allow certain degrees of pornography inside of dedicated threads or behind NSFW filter (I don't agree, but I understand).

But all this "Well akchually there is no definition" bit is honestly going over my head or something. I just don't get how we can not know or understand the definition.

It's all fine and dandy until the day somebody gets a random ban/warning for posting a supposed porn the user thought would be yet another "NSFW" content, then it'll be an even bigger shitstorm than what happened today

[aweigh]

[aweigh]

In fact, you're agitating right now by making the conversation once more about interpersonal drama.

Wanted to point out that calling people coomers creates interpersonal drama.

[WhiteShark]

It's all fine and dandy until the day somebody gets a random ban/warning for posting a supposed porn the user thought would be yet another "NSFW" content, then it'll be an even bigger shitstorm than what happened today

Only warnings for intentional violations are considered when deciding on disciplinary action.

[Anon]

It's all fine and dandy until the day somebody gets a random ban/warning for posting a supposed porn the user thought would be yet another "NSFW" content, then it'll be an even bigger shitstorm than what happened today

Only warnings for intentional violations are considered when deciding on disciplinary action.

I mean that's good to know but doesn't change my point, the issue is more that as porn is considered subjective and all somebody could get banned/warned for posting a porn crap from 2026 Rusty, then such user could bring up some posts from 2024 Rusty declaring similar content wasn't considered porn, for example

[Metalhead33]

So, does this ultimately boil down to "should there be more censorship on this free speech site or less"?
Or rater, "should it be restricted to the NSFW topics or be completely banned to appease the trads"?

[Oyster Sauce]

It's all fine and dandy until the day somebody gets a random ban/warning for posting a supposed porn the user thought would be yet another "NSFW" content, then it'll be an even bigger shitstorm than what happened today

Only warnings for intentional violations are considered when deciding on disciplinary action.

I mean that's good to know but doesn't change my point, the issue is more that as porn is considered subjective and all somebody could get banned/warned for posting a porn crap from 2026 Rusty, then such user could bring up some posts from 2024 Rusty declaring similar content wasn't considered porn, for example

You have to be pretty malicious towards this forum/its users to face any sort of punishment. This is one of those things you don't have to worry about (and it if changes and becomes shit it's time to bail anyway)

[Anon]

So, does this ultimately boil down to "should there be more censorship on this free speech site or less"?
Or rater, "should it be restricted to the NSFW topics or be completely banned to appease the trads"?

Nope, the common denominator here is trying to find a more precise definition of porn so rules can be better written and nobody gets unfairly treated in the foreseeable future (including yourself)

Only warnings for intentional violations are considered when deciding on disciplinary action.

I mean that's good to know but doesn't change my point, the issue is more that as porn is considered subjective and all somebody could get banned/warned for posting a porn crap from 2026 Rusty, then such user could bring up some posts from 2024 Rusty declaring similar content wasn't considered porn, for example

You have to be pretty malicious towards this forum/its users to face any sort of punishment. This is one of those things you don't have to worry about (and it if changes and becomes shit it's time to bail anyway)

Administrative actions in any shape or form (having posts moved, reports denied, warning issued etc) when you think weren't issued within fair treatment of you already naturally leaves the user very unsettled even if it's not a ban.

[Xenich]

A and B from my perspective.

A. The nipple slipped out seems intent in that it wants to produce a direct sexual desire.
B. Obvious.
C. Looks like a normal selfie
D. Pretty standard for fantasy, no obvious intent seems apparent outside of that traditional makeup (ie parts are covered, no heavy protrusion). Not my thing though.


A, B, and D are likely to get you a visit from HR if it is seen by the wrong person though.

[Lancaster]

A)

B)

C)

D)

Still the best fighting game gal.

Which, if any, of these do you consider to be 'porn'?
Your feedback is valuable and may be used for further refinement of the rules. Thank you.

Porn is penetration & an erect member, this is mostly R rated. What is the point of this survey?

[Nammu Archag]

Porn is penetration & an erect member, this is mostly R rated. What is the point of this survey?

Obviously the point pertains to you since you don't even know what porn is

[Xenich]

A)

B)

C)

D)

Still the best fighting game gal.

Which, if any, of these do you consider to be 'porn'?
Your feedback is valuable and may be used for further refinement of the rules. Thank you.

Porn is penetration & an erect member, this is mostly R rated. What is the point of this survey?

That is because society has been conditioned to this position. What is "R" rated today, used to be considered highly obscene and pornography in the past. They just kept conditioning the generations over the years, moving the bar further and further so each would think it normal. It is why we went from closet homosexuality, to full on gay twerking in front of children as somehow "not that bad".

[ArcaneLurker]

A is borderline softcore.
B is softcore.
The others are not.

~
A German favourite

[GhostCow]

This thread is about which is NSFW and you nigger brained monkeys still can't shut the fuck up about porn. 5 threads not enough for you guys?

A is borderline, B is full NSFW, the rest are fine

[Anon]

This thread is about which is NSFW and you nigger brained monkeys still can't shut the fuck up about porn. 5 threads not enough for you guys?

A is borderline, B is full NSFW, the rest are fine

Which, if any, of these do you consider to be 'porn'?

Gotta read more carefully m8

[WhiteShark]

This thread is about which is NSFW and you nigger brained monkeys still can't shut the fuck up about porn. 5 threads not enough for you guys?

A is borderline, B is full NSFW, the rest are fine

No, the thread is about which is porn. It's in the title. Rusty explicitly said it's not about which is NSFW.

[Kalarion]

Pornography is the depiction of the sexual act, for the purpose of titillation. Hence the difference between "softcore" and "hardcore". It's all pornography, but one has explicit depiction of certain sexual organs and one does not. Hence also the difference between nudity or sexual depiction for the purpose of displaying art, and XXX videos (even XXX videos with, say, a plotline or high quality production, for instance Cleopatra or the more modern(ish) Irreversible).

With that in mind, none of the OP pics are pornographic. They are all immodest to one degree or another, however. And immodesty can be damaging as well, in some cases approaching the level of explicit pornography.

I'd have a serious problem with A and B, and possibly D, if the site explicitly took a line against perverse titillation.

[GhostCow]

Yeah, I misread, my bad.

A is kinda porn, B is definitely porn. Anyone who says C or D is porn should hang themselves.

Nudity is not automatically porn, but B has no artistic value and is obviously meant to titillate

[WhiteShark]

Pornography is the depiction of the sexual act, for the purpose of titillation.

So you don't consider vore fetish art to be porn?

[Kalarion]

This thread is about which is NSFW and you nigger brained monkeys still can't shut the fuck up about porn. 5 threads not enough for you guys?

A is borderline, B is full NSFW, the rest are fine

Get back in IRC faggot.

[Xenich]

You guys do know that your security guy sees everything you browse right? I mean, EVERYTHING and it is all logged for however long they like to keep it (which is pretty much indefinitely for companies these days).

Pro-tip (don't surf anything at work that isn't work related, don't use the work access points with your private devices)