What do you consider porn to be? (NSFW, obviously)

[rusty_shackleford]

A)

B)

C)

D)

Still the best fighting game gal.

Which, if any, of these do you consider to be 'porn'?
Your feedback is valuable and may be used for further refinement of the rules. Thank you.

[The_Mask]

None of it.

Also... women are beautiful. That is all.

[KnightoftheWind]

B) for sure, and A) is close to that point but doesn't cross the line. All others are SFW.

[Hauberk]

None. They are all whores though. Imagine being their father.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

A and B for sure

[TKVNC]

A, and B are very clearly porn, A you can very much see her areola.

C didn't load for me because reasons. D is coomerbait, but not porn. Though I suspect people can and do goon over it.

Also, isn't a poll a better way to get votes?

[rusty_shackleford]

B) for sure, and A) is close to that point but doesn't cross the line. All others are SFW.

I'm not asking which are SFW/NSFW, but which depict pornography.

[Anon]

If we're talking about porn (images clearly intended to make guys jerf off to), A and B. D is sexually explicit enough that I think should fit into that as well for general purposes.

[rusty_shackleford]

Also, isn't a poll a better way to get votes?

I'm just looking for feedback, nothing may even come of this. There seems to be a wide gulf in what people consider 'pornography' to be with regards to images that are merely erotic in nature but not depicting any sexual acts.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

It's just women, fictional or otherwise. I don't get whats exciting about them.

[Metalhead33]

None. None of those images depict sexual intercourse or masturbation taking place, ergo, none of them are porn. NSFW? Yes. Suggestive? Yes. Porn? Nope.

[Anon]

Softcore porn is a thing though, there is an entire category in most porn sites for them.

[rusty_shackleford]

Softcore porn is a thing though, there is an entire category in most porn sites for them.

Wikipedia uses this image on their article for 'Softcore pornography', I don't agree that it's porn


That seems no more pornographic than e.g., the cover for the Eldritch Wizardry OD&D book

[DagothGeas5]

To me none of these are porn. I would say C) is the one I would find more acceptable to find without NSFW tag, A) I would say is very mild NSFW, B) is NSFW but I wouldn't call it porn, and D) is strange but not porn. Keep in mind I am dense as a brick.

[Nammu Archag]

The most basic and competent definition, derived from the Greek term pornographos (“writing about prostitutes”), defined as: lewd or obscene material designed to cause sexual arousal. With this in mind:

A) Pornographic, as the person is posing in underwear for the sake of showing off her sexual features along with a nipslip. It is both lewd and obscene.

B) Pornographic, as the person is flashing her breasts and sticking her tongue out, which is most definitely suggestive in nature and is both lewd and obscene

C) Not pornographic as it isn't explicitly sexual, lewd or obscene, only showing some cleavage that still remains covered up, and is likely just designed to show off her cosplay first and foremost.

D) Borderline pornographic, as her clothing is heavily sexualized for no discernable reason beyond arousal, and you can see her nipples through her outfit. However, this could be argued against since it isn't as clear cut as other examples, she is partially clothed, and isn't posing suggestively.

[Anon]

Softcore porn is a thing though, there is an entire category in most porn sites for them.

Wikipedia uses this image on their article for 'Softcore pornography', I don't agree that it's porn


That seems no more pornographic than e.g., the cover for the Eldritch Wizardry OD&D book

If you browse for "softcore porn" (especially japanese apparently) in pornhub or spankbang or sites of that kind you'll find plenty videos of girls doing no masturbation or sexual intercourse, just dancing and doing poses with minimal or no clothing.

I could link them with spoiler if you want to but I think finding them is too easy to need that

[WhiteShark]

By the standards of the ancient Christians who meticulously removed exposed genitals and breasts from classical statuary and reliefs, B is porn and A is borderline.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

None. None of those images depict sexual intercourse or masturbation taking place, ergo, none of them are porn. NSFW? Yes. Suggestive? Yes. Porn? Nope.

Exact words of the text

[Nooneatall]

They are all porn.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

By the standards of the ancient Christians who meticulously removed exposed genitals and breasts from classical statuary and reliefs, B is porn and A is borderline.

We're far from being ancient Christians, darling

[Nammu Archag]

None. None of those images depict sexual intercourse or masturbation taking place, ergo, none of them are porn. NSFW? Yes. Suggestive? Yes. Porn? Nope.

where exactly are you getting this definition from? Pornography in the early 1900s was just pictures of naked women or maybe even a film snippet of a woman dancing in lingerie

[Nammu Archag]

By the standards of the ancient Christians who meticulously removed exposed genitals and breasts from classical statuary and reliefs, B is porn and A is borderline.

We're far from being ancient Christians, darling

My grandparents would consider all of this on the same level as porn as did most Americans (and people on the planet) 70 years ago

[WhiteShark]

We're far from being ancient Christians, darling

Yes, it's something we definitely need to work on.

[Rigwort]

Coomerbait shouldn't be banned. But it should be made fun of. Coomers.

[Nooneatall]

Coomerbait shouldn't be banned. But it should be made fun of. Coomers.

I just ignore it, I know there's a dedicated thread to it. If someone posts porn I just scroll past.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

My grandparents would consider all of this on the same level as porn as did most Americans (and people on the planet) 70 years ago

Hm, I don't know. My grandpa (served in the navy during the Vietnam war as a mechanic) had a framed newspaper advertisement for toilet paper that had a big black & white photo of a plump naked woman (could see her breasts and pubic hair) sitting on a shelf over his toilet. Whenever his children and little grand children went to his house to visit and use the restroom, the picture was right there. I don't recall anyone ever complaining. But obviously that wasn't anything like what was shown in the OP or is usually posted in the NSFW thread.

[rusty_shackleford]

Just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback and welcome more feedback. So far what I'm going to do is probably reword the rule to be more explicit about what it forbids/allows, as what I consider to be pornography is obviously not what many here consider to be so.

[OnTilt]

A and B are porn, C is not.

D is right on the edge. From a Christian perspective it is, but since there is no nudity and its merely a thirst-trap I can agree from a secular perspective that it wouldn't be.

Edit: I guess I was late here but I'm glad we've come to our senses enough to find common ground.

[Anon]

My grandparents would consider all of this on the same level as porn as did most Americans (and people on the planet) 70 years ago

Hm, I don't know. My grandpa (served in the navy during the Vietnam war as a mechanic) had a framed newspaper advertisement for toilet paper that had a big black & white photo of a plump naked woman (could see her breasts and pubic hair) sitting on a shelf over his toilet. Whenever his children and little grand children went to his house to visit and use the restroom, the picture was right there. I don't recall anyone ever complaining. But obviously that wasn't anything like what was shown in the OP or is usually posted in the NSFW thread.

Yeah this is definitely a thing. People think all grandpas were prude conservative boomers but it's far from the truth. Woodstock happened in the 60's for example, y' know. People who went there are 70+ yo nowadays.

[OnTilt]

Softcore porn is a thing though, there is an entire category in most porn sites for them.

Wikipedia uses this image on their article for 'Softcore pornography', I don't agree that it's porn


That seems no more pornographic than e.g., the cover for the Eldritch Wizardry OD&D book

Wikipedia is a laughing stock and people should stop using it altogether. Its also what happens when you base things off of "consensus" rather than objective reality and standards.