Communism

[Nammu Archag]

Why would jews go out of their way to make a convoluted ideology about workers having better conditions when they already held high-ranking positions in society?

Wait, are you actually unaware that the bolsheviks were jews?



Jews play the game from both ends. Rich jews work their money schemes and poor jews forment rebellion. Both aim to subvert gentile states and bring them to heel.

Where did you even find this? Because a lot of these are just blatantly false. For example, The Council of People's Commissars, the highest body of the Bolsheviks, was about 13% Jewish, the rest being ethnic Russians and Poles. There were definitely Jews in the Bolsheviks, as well as the anti-bolshevik leftists, but Jews in general favored the democratic, provisional government more (and many others held high status positions in the Tsardoms middle class prior to it)

[WhiteShark]

Notice those jews are all long dead members of a defunct political ideology? You yourself say they play both side and clearly the jews we're dealing with today are the neoliberal capitalists who ultimately won out.

Marxism didn't die; it evolved. This is what Max Horkheimer, director of the Frankfurt School, said:

This sociology went beyond the critical theory of society concived by Marx in order to reflect reality more adequately. One point is very important. For Marx had the ideal of a society of free human beings. He believed that this capitalist society would necessarily have to be overcome by the solidarity spelled by the increasing immiseration of the working class. This idea is wrong. This society in which we live does not immiserate the workers but helps them to build a better life. And apart from that. Marx did not see that freedom and justice are dialectical concepts. The more freedom, the less justice and the more justice, the less freedom. The critical theory which I concieved later is based on the idea that one cannot determine, what is good, what a good, a free society would look like from within the society which we live in. We lack the means. But in our work we can bring up the negative aspects of this society, which we want to change.

Communists realized that the workers weren't going to turn on the system because the system made them happy, so they had to find other vectors of attack. This is why they switched to talking about sex, race, sexual orientation, and now gender. Note that they do not actually care about the worker's happiness! As soon as the proletariat stopped being useful, it was discarded. This is because Marxism was never about the proletariat. It was about smashing the gentile system and supplanting it with a jewish one.

There is nothing for them to gain from genuine Marxist-leninist theory. They control those big companies, they are those big banks, the means of production and private property are own by kikes.

You underestimate the scope of jewish ambition. It is not enough for them to control most things. It is not enough for them to rule from the shadows. The goal, as outlined in the Protocols, is a jewish world government—not a secret cabal, not economic control, but an openly jewish monarchy over the entire world. They intend to bring gentile society to its knees the world over and make us beg them for their rule:

4. WHEN WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR COUP D'ETAT WE SHALL SAY THEN TO THE VARIOUS PEOPLES: "EVERYTHING HAS GONE TERRIBLY BADLY, ALL HAVE BEEN WORN OUT WITH SUFFERING. WE ARE DESTROYING THE CAUSES OF YOUR TORMENT - NATIONALITIES, FRONTIERS, DIFFERENCES OF COINAGES. YOU ARE AT LIBERTY, OF COURSE, TO PRONOUNCE SENTENCE UPON US, BUT CAN IT POSSIBLY BE A JUST ONE IF IT IS CONFIRMED BY YOU BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY TRIAL OF WHAT WE ARE OFFERING YOU." ... THEN WILL THE MOB EXALT US AND BEAR US UP IN THEIR HANDS IN A UNANIMOUS TRIUMPH OF HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS.

3. Surely there is no need to seek further proof that our rule is predestined by God? Surely we shall not fail with such wealth to prove that all that evil which for so many centuries we have had to commit has served at the end of ends the cause of true wellbeing - the bringing of everything into order? Though it be even by the exercise of some violence, yet all the same it will be established. (The motto of the Freemasons - "Out of Chaos, Order"). We shall contrive to prove that we are benefactors who have restored to the rent and mangled earth the true good and also freedom of the person, and therewith we shall enable it to be enjoyed in peace and quiet, with proper dignity of relations, on the condition, of course, of strict observance of the laws established by us.

[Mondain]

If I was a group of evil Jews I'd write my plan down in a book for people to find

[Makirige]

Oh change topic come on

[WhiteShark]

Where did you even find this?

That table was taken from The International Jew, page 145. Let us also not forget that Lenin himself was a jew.

Oh change topic come on

We already did that a couple pages ago.

[Nammu Archag]

Where did you even find this?

That table was taken from The International Jew, page 145. Let us also not forget that Lenin himself was a jew.

Yeah, and it's just wrong. You can go look at the actual makeup of these departments and see that it is bs. There are actually more people from noble lineage than Jews in many, and the key figures of the Red Army were virtually all non-Jews like Mikhail Tukhachevsky. I don't deny that Lenin and Trotsky were jews. There were still too many jews overall as well of course, but far from the Jewish Bolsheviks' line of thought or 75% of seats being Jewish. International Jewry largely supported the Western Powers and provisional government against the Red East.

Besides, Stalin purged all the Jews and had Trotsky ice-picked, which is more than any capitalist or democratic nation has done to deal with "international Jewry" which should in your eyes automatically make him better than any Western government whom have done zilch. Of course, it doesn't because commies are all worse than any kike capitalist or hedonistic liberal, the perfect target to sick right-leaning goys on while you continue to pollute their souls.

[Nammu Archag]

Oh change topic come on

Guys can't we just go back to talking about gay vampires?

[WhiteShark]

Please take note that I've split the thread, so this is no longer the Astarion thread.

[OnTilt]

Oh change topic come on

Guys can't we just go back to talking about gay vampires?

That would be the best move now that the mods have moved this to a new thread. Gotta keep them on their toes.

Edit: Whiteshark beat me too it, but I say it's still fair game.

[WhiteShark]

You can go look at the actual makeup of these departments

Where?

[Faceless_Sentinel]

FEAR FOOLISH MURICANS, IM GHOST OF COMMUNISM and im gonna eat then rape your and your children asses! Booooooooo!

[Vergil]

I'm glad we have brave conservative patriots like Ben Shapiro fighting all the Chinese communists who control the US government.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

You two argue like an old married couple.

Considering her unappealing nannying personality and beta simps she surrounds herself with she's probably flustered when confronted with an actual man.
Unfortunately for her I am happily married and her husband's inevitable requests to watch would be off putting to me anyway.

Usually "happily married actual man" don't spend their time on small forum and video games, they spend their time in real life with family and since you are here, it is say's something.

[Vergil]

You two argue like an old married couple.

Considering her unappealing nannying personality and beta simps she surrounds herself with she's probably flustered when confronted with an actual man.
Unfortunately for her I am happily married and her husband's inevitable requests to watch would be off putting to me anyway.

Usually "happily married actual man" don't spend their time on small forum and video games, they spend their time in real life with family and since you are here, it is say's something.

We're doing the pretend posting on a forum is a massive task that takes so much time and energy to do gag now?
I'm guessing you're basing this off of your massively successful personal life and not baseless cope right?

Oh also I forgot, she's not gonna fuck you bro

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Considering her unappealing nannying personality and beta simps she surrounds herself with she's probably flustered when confronted with an actual man.
Unfortunately for her I am happily married and her husband's inevitable requests to watch would be off putting to me anyway.

Usually "happily married actual man" don't spend their time on small forum and video games, they spend their time in real life with family and since you are here, it is say's something.

We're doing the pretend posting on a forum is a massive task that takes so much time and energy to do gag now?
I'm guessing you're basing this off of your massively successful personal life and not baseless cope right?

Oh also I forgot, she's not gonna fuck you bro

[Vergil]

Usually "happily married actual man" don't spend their time on small forum and video games, they spend their time in real life with family and since you are here, it is say's something.

We're doing the pretend posting on a forum is a massive task that takes so much time and energy to do gag now?
I'm guessing you're basing this off of your massively successful personal life and not baseless cope right?

Oh also I forgot, she's not gonna fuck you bro

You don't see this clip used as much anymore

[OnTilt]

You two argue like an old married couple.

Considering her unappealing nannying personality and beta simps she surrounds herself with she's probably flustered when confronted with an actual man.
Unfortunately for her I am happily married and her husband's inevitable requests to watch would be off putting to me anyway.

Usually "happily married actual man" don't spend their time on small forum and video games, they spend their time in real life with family and since you are here, it is say's something.

I understand that Vergil is petty and whiney in a way that does resemble the way I've known faggots to act ( I don't even dislike him per se, but lets be honest here), but as a happily married man with kids I resent this statement. Also, anyone who is here to comment is either A) unmarried -- which means they wouldn't know, or B) Are married, and yet are here -- which means they're unlikely to agree with you. I guess there's also C) Unhappily married -- maybe we'll hear from those folks.

[Eyestabber]

Just hopping in on this thread to say kikes estimate that between 30 and 50k communists were executed by Franco-sama after the war, yet we have no video footage of any of that. I'm really saddened because we see so much footage of injustice and revolting crap today that I really wish we could sit back, relax, and see justice being served. Nothing beats some honest to God public executions of commie trash.

[Makirige]

Where did you even find this?

That table was taken from The International Jew, page 145. Let us also not forget that Lenin himself was a jew.

Oh change topic come on

We already did that a couple pages ago.

(((excuse me i didnt see before)))

[Nammu Archag]

You can go look at the actual makeup of these departments

Where?

For main people Russian language wiki lists a lot of them, for detailed lists of all staff you'd have to go into Russian language archives.

[WhiteShark]

For main people Russian language wiki lists a lot of them, for detailed lists of all staff you'd have to go into Russian language archives.

So was Putin also wrong when he said that jews composed 80%-85% of the first Soviet government?

[Vergil]

Sino-Soviet split was one of the biggest and funniest bag fumbles in history.

[Nammu Archag]

For main people Russian language wiki lists a lot of them, for detailed lists of all staff you'd have to go into Russian language archives.

So was Putin also wrong when he said that jews composed 80%-85% of the first Soviet government?

Most definitely, as there's no source that corroborates that even from his own government's records. Probably was fed to him by Solzhenitsyn lol

[OnTilt]

For main people Russian language wiki lists a lot of them, for detailed lists of all staff you'd have to go into Russian language archives.

So was Putin also wrong when he said that jews composed 80%-85% of the first Soviet government?

Most definitely, as there's no source that corroborates that even from his own government's records. Probably was fed to him by Solzhenitsyn lol

You can squabble about the precise percentage of Jews or their per capita representation and influence in the Bolshevik revolution all you want. Intuition tells me the Jews were responsible for it regardless.

[Anon]

Communism is horrible, but at the same time I appreciate that North Korea, Cuba and China are some of the countries that most resist jewish influence. In the end the jews conceived an ideology that gave some societies tools to resist against their dominance, which is funny.

[Nammu Archag]

So was Putin also wrong when he said that jews composed 80%-85% of the first Soviet government?

Most definitely, as there's no source that corroborates that even from his own government's records. Probably was fed to him by Solzhenitsyn lol

You can squabble about the precise percentage of Jews or their per capita representation and influence in the Bolshevik revolution all you want. Intuition tells me the Jews were responsible for it regardless.

Well it eventually saw Jews purged and assimilated en masse, put stricter crackdowns on homosexuality and pederasts, saw pornography banned entirely, got rid of usury and many other vices dominated by Jews, etc, so if it was started by them, it heavily backfired. I can only imagine how the Tsardom or democratic government would have faired considering Jews already dominated media/cinema, finance, and many middle-class professions on top of their dependence on the increasingly Jewish controlled West. Besides, the Germans were the ones who largely got them into Russia and active again.

[A Chinese opium den]

I can only imagine how the Tsardom

The Tsardom at least was toppled by jewish money from primarily the US and European central banks because of how it treated the jews, along with a few other reasons of course.

[maidenhaver]

Anyone who even remotely likes Marx & Lenin is a Marxist-Leninist.

I like Chico Marx the best.

[Nammu Archag]

I can only imagine how the Tsardom

The Tsardom at least was toppled by jewish money from primarily the US and European central banks because of how it treated the jews, along with a few other reasons of course.

I don't fullly buy that, considering one of the reasons for the initial crackdown on the Bolsheviks was due to their calling for the refusal of all foreign debt payments... this was back in 1905, and in 1918 they made it official policy. If you're talking about the provisional government, they were committed to repaying debts so maybe that was the case, although they were really only continuing what the Tsar had failed to do but not for lack of trying. I don't think it had much to do with pogroms as they weren't quite state policy but instead due to eroding state capacity (I know some claim they were encouraged by the Tsar but the fact they only occurred in places like Moldova and Ukraine and not Russia proper makes me think they were more organic alongside the lack of evidence). The Tsar was hardly toppled; he abdicated in favor of the liberals and his ruin was largely the result of the war against Germany and Austria-Hungary and its effects. The provisional government did receive cash infusions and the like but much of this was to combat the Petrograd faction.

[ArcaneLurker]

Stalinists are less openly gay than Fabian Socialists or Afrocentric Marxist-Leninists, but both want Global Homogenisation & the destruction of Europeans.
Private property laws & capitalist economics will be used to further goals right up until they abolish private property for everyone else, and force economic redistributions globally.