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rusty_shackleford wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:32
Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:07
Btw another fact is that nor Castro nor Che Guevara were actual communists. When they deposed Fulgencio Batista, they sought US help first. When they figured out the US was ultimately Fulgencio's ally, didn't want Castro government, and would eventually backstab him, they then sought USSR help and became officially communists.
That's false tho. US didn't even recognize the results of the '58 election and barred him from entry into USA.
USA's man in Cuba was Ramón Barquín.
By that point Batista was cold product and Barquin looked to be the more stable and viable option but Batista enjoyed a very cozy relationship with the US government and corporations during most of his rule.
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Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:38
This is simply wrong, Castro did visit US sometimes, definitely more than once, and there are plenty evidences of that that you can find with a basic search. No idea where you got this info from.
I was referring to Batista…
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:38
By that point Batista was cold product and Barquin looked to be the more stable and viable option but Batista enjoyed a very cozy relationship with the US government and corporations during most of his rule.
Well, yes, but he was referring to a period right as Batista was being deposed. USA was not actively supporting him at that point.
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Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:38
Yes Che was a professional militia who wanted to overthrow latin dictatorships, but not a communist, at least he had never any manifesto explicitly declaring that AFAIK.
I think the guy who signed documents with "Stalin II" sometimes had at least a fairly genuine positive view of communism lol.
Going hand in hand with that I don't think it was just generic anti-authoritarianism that drove him considering his stalinism. He also fought in Africa as well.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:39
Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:38
This is simply wrong, Castro did visit US sometimes, definitely more than once, and there are plenty evidences of that that you can find with a basic search. No idea where you got this info from.
I was referring to Batista…
Got it, I stand corrected then, thanks
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:40
Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:38
Yes Che was a professional militia who wanted to overthrow latin dictatorships, but not a communist, at least he had never any manifesto explicitly declaring that AFAIK.
I think the guy who signed documents with "Stalin II" sometimes had at least a fairly genuine positive view of communism lol.
Going hand in hand with that I don't think it was just generic anti-authoritarianism that drove him considering his stalinism. He also fought in Africa as well.
his involvement in the congo is hard to forgive, supporting literal cannibals, mass-murdering children and nuns.
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:40
Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:38
Yes Che was a professional militia who wanted to overthrow latin dictatorships, but not a communist, at least he had never any manifesto explicitly declaring that AFAIK.
I think the guy who signed documents with "Stalin II" sometimes had at least a fairly genuine positive view of communism lol.
Going hand in hand with that I don't think it was just generic anti-authoritarianism that drove him considering his stalinism. He also fought in Africa as well.
I see, I did some basic research and you're right, I stand corrected again
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re: Barquin, I just checked his wikipedia page and it's pretty much blank on this which is both surprising and not surprising. He was definitely considered by CIA to be their man in Cuba for years, both during late Batista and early Castro.
e.g., he was supposed to be the leader of the FRD.
https://www.archives.gov/files/research ... -10041.pdf

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Emphyrio wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:43
Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:40
Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:38
Yes Che was a professional militia who wanted to overthrow latin dictatorships, but not a communist, at least he had never any manifesto explicitly declaring that AFAIK.
I think the guy who signed documents with "Stalin II" sometimes had at least a fairly genuine positive view of communism lol.
Going hand in hand with that I don't think it was just generic anti-authoritarianism that drove him considering his stalinism. He also fought in Africa as well.
his involvement in the congo is hard to forgive, supporting literal cannibals, mass-murdering children and nuns.
I'm really not as familiar with the africa situation but considering how he wrote about them afterwards I don't think he had much love for the congo niggers after having to interact with them personally. :lol:
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 15:30
Back on topic was Castro the communist leader with the most swag of all time? Stalin was a pockmarked goober with a gimp arm and Mao was a fat chink with black teeth.
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If rw leaders looked more like this and less like the dysgenics we see now we'd be doing a lot better

Tito looked pretty gangster and when he was a bit younger, even handsome

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He looks like a typical hyspanic to me
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Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:51
Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 15:30
Back on topic was Castro the communist leader with the most swag of all time? Stalin was a pockmarked goober with a gimp arm and Mao was a fat chink with black teeth.
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If rw leaders looked more like this and less like the dysgenics we see now we'd be doing a lot better

Tito looked pretty gangster and when he was a bit younger, even handsome

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The right wing has been completely cock caged into not allowing any sort of aestheticism for fear of looking like "nazis" and so the left has been given an absolute monopoly on it.
Conservatives like to cope and seethe and bring up the irony of leftists buying things with Guevara's image on them but in reality no amount of technical argument is going to convince the masses of retarded NPCs more than looking cool. Image is extremely important.
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:57
Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:51
Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 15:30
Back on topic was Castro the communist leader with the most swag of all time? Stalin was a pockmarked goober with a gimp arm and Mao was a fat chink with black teeth.
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If rw leaders looked more like this and less like the dysgenics we see now we'd be doing a lot better

Tito looked pretty gangster and when he was a bit younger, even handsome

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The right wing has been completely cock caged into not allowing any sort of aestheticism for fear of looking like "nazis" and so the left has been given an absolute monopoly on it.
Conservatives like to cope and seethe and bring up the irony of leftists buying things with Guevara's image on them but in reality no amount of technical argument is going to convince the masses of retarded NPCs more than looking cool. Image is extremely important.
Chuds will actually lash out at you and call you a commie for pointing out the obvious. Jews invented both liberalism and communism to destroy people's capacity of thinking politics rationally.
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Also very similarly to jewish neuroticism about Hitler they refuse to take any sort of lessons from or even acknowledge the achievements of guys like Castro or Guevara. Radical change in society far more likely to come from a nazi Castro or Guevara than a lame uninspiring fag like Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson facts and logicing the libs to death with moderate centrism.
Anon wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:02
Chuds will actually lash out at you and call you a commie for pointing out the obvious. Jews invented both liberalism and communism to destroy people's capacity of thinking politics rationally.
Don't worry this has already happened on this very website when I said Che Guevara was a more based/impressive Argentinian than that gross looking crypto-jew they just elected president.
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:57
Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:51
Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 15:30
Back on topic was Castro the communist leader with the most swag of all time? Stalin was a pockmarked goober with a gimp arm and Mao was a fat chink with black teeth.
Image

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If rw leaders looked more like this and less like the dysgenics we see now we'd be doing a lot better

Tito looked pretty gangster and when he was a bit younger, even handsome

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The right wing has been completely cock caged into not allowing any sort of aestheticism for fear of looking like "nazis" and so the left has been given an absolute monopoly on it.
Conservatives like to cope and seethe and bring up the irony of leftists buying things with Guevara's image on them but in reality no amount of technical argument is going to convince the masses of retarded NPCs more than looking cool. Image is extremely important.
In what ways are leftists looking cool and aesthetic that cuckservatives aren't? That 'Dark Brandon' shit? Should Trump be rocking the H. Boss?
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Communism is the single most destructive ideology in world history and nothing about it is cool in the slightest.




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Oyster Sauce wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:04
Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:57
Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:51



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If rw leaders looked more like this and less like the dysgenics we see now we'd be doing a lot better

Tito looked pretty gangster and when he was a bit younger, even handsome

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The right wing has been completely cock caged into not allowing any sort of aestheticism for fear of looking like "nazis" and so the left has been given an absolute monopoly on it.
Conservatives like to cope and seethe and bring up the irony of leftists buying things with Guevara's image on them but in reality no amount of technical argument is going to convince the masses of retarded NPCs more than looking cool. Image is extremely important.
In what ways are leftists looking cool and aesthetic that cuckservatives aren't? That 'Dark Brandon' shit? Should Trump be rocking the H. Boss?
Funnily enough your example of Dark Brandon is an example of co-opting originally right wing memes about Trump. Another example of why Trump was such a big deal, he attracted fresh blood and new ideas which got people actually excited and inspired. Someone like Mitt Romney in 2012 could never move anyone to create anything.
I think it's also important to differentiate between actual marxist-leninist communists and the sort of liberals you have today. Another example of why the sort of troglodyte fags you see today are completely divorced from and are larping as communists. Real communists viewed faggots as bourgeoisie excess to put in labor camps and made stuff like socialist realism instead of the ugliness/vulgarity culture you have today.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:04


Should Trump be rocking the H. Boss?
Yes, obviously?
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Humbaba wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:07
Communism is the single most destructive ideology in world history and nothing about it is cool in the slightest.




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Humbaba wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:07
Communism is the single most destructive ideology in world history and nothing about it is cool in the slightest.
Communism wishes it could destroy the traditional family and religious life the way western liberalism has in just the past 20 years.
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Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:51
If rw leaders looked more like this and less like the dysgenics we see now we'd be doing a lot better
he looks like an average guy with a patchy beard.
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I don't think going into dysgenic or not is the right argument when it comes to Che Guevara but there's something romantic about the image surrounding him that is appealing to people. He looks like the quintessential revolutionary who has the force of will to fight for a revolutionary ideal. There's a rugged individualism (ironically) to him that makes him a larger than life figure. A mover of history who is in the trenches dealing with all the shit that entails fighting for a greater cause. I disagree with what that cause was specifically but it's an admirable trait and is the sort of thing that moves people to action and is attractive to the eye instead of some fag in a suit making power point presentations about the economy.
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:10
Another example of why Trump was such a big deal, he attracted fresh blood and new ideas which got people actually excited and inspired.
Droompf was a big deal because nobody had ever seen such an abject retard on the big stage, then people memed him into le ebin god emperor and one thing led to anudda and he was president because his opponent was the only candidate in history who was even more unpopular than him.





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Humbaba wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:07
Communism is the single most destructive ideology in world history and nothing about it is cool in the slightest.




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Comnmunism did not bring disgusting Turkoids and others like them to Germany, and the part that was communist is the most "conservative" and ethnically German part of the country today
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Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:34
he part that was communist is the most "conservative" and ethnically German part of the country today
It's also a massive shithole.




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Humbaba wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:36
Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:34
he part that was communist is the most "conservative" and ethnically German part of the country today
It's also a massive shithole.




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And yet browns like you would kill millions for a chance to live there instead of their home countries. :scratch:
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Emphyrio wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:21
Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 19:51
If rw leaders looked more like this and less like the dysgenics we see now we'd be doing a lot better
he looks like an average guy with a patchy beard.
I think that says a lot. An average guy with a patchy beard, a cigar, and a bit of personality is more appealing/ looks a lot better than any US leader (bar Trump maybe), or global figures like Millei who just seem like weirdos at best.
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Vergil wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:38
And yet browns like you would kill millions for a chance to live there instead of their home countries.
Nope.

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Humbaba wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:36
Nammu Archag wrote: March 18th, 2024, 20:34
he part that was communist is the most "conservative" and ethnically German part of the country today
It's also a massive shithole.




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Sorry but Rural Saxony > the average West German city full of syrians and turks
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