Xenich wrote: ↑
March 9th, 2024, 19:46
Nammu Archag wrote: ↑
March 9th, 2024, 19:31
maidenhaver wrote: ↑
March 9th, 2024, 15:54
I didn't say they were inherently jewish. The pharisees wanted a messiah based on their false interpretation that he would kill all the jews' enemies and make a theocracy with himself as king over the world, which is satanic, like a lot of doomsday cultists want. If you believe their interpretation of the OT, you get contradictions, because they weren't reading scripture with mercy. The jews were acting like Jonas and hating their neighbors.
The Chrsitian OT is still insanely jewish and most of the characters have weird jewish mannerisms or belief complexes
Jewish as in Talmudic? What do you mean by "Jewish"? Give an example? When and where at? Were they Jewish though (ie descendant of Judah?).
You could honestly pick almost any story and see stereotypically Jewish behavior and values. By Jewish I mean ethnic, the Semitic peoples that inhabited Judea, shared similar languages and worshipped Yahweh.
David and Goliath is a classic one though. It is presented to whites and others as a story of underdogs and so on. In reality, it goes like this
David and Goliath
17 Now the Philistines gathered their forces for war and assembled at Sokoh in Judah. They pitched camp at Ephes Dammim, between Sokoh and Azekah. 2 Saul and the Israelites assembled and camped in the Valley of Elah and drew up their battle line to meet the Philistines. 3 The Philistines occupied one hill and the Israelites another, with the valley between them.
4 A champion named Goliath, who was from Gath, came out of the Philistine camp. His height was six cubits and a span. 5 He had a bronze helmet on his head and wore a coat of scale armor of bronze weighing five thousand shekels; 6 on his legs he wore bronze greaves, and a bronze javelin was slung on his back. 7 His spear shaft was like a weaver’s rod, and its iron point weighed six hundred shekels. His shield bearer went ahead of him.
8 Goliath stood and shouted to the ranks of Israel, “Why do you come out and line up for battle? Am I not a Philistine, and are you not the servants of Saul? Choose a man and have him come down to me. 9 If he is able to fight and kill me, we will become your subjects; but if I overcome him and kill him, you will become our subjects and serve us.” 10 Then the Philistine said, “This day I defy the armies of Israel! Give me a man and let us fight each other.” 11 On hearing the Philistine’s words, Saul and all the Israelites were dismayed and terrified.
Goliath, the evil philistine, challenges the Israelis to an honorable duel, a chance to prevent a mass of death on both sides and to prove the righteousness of their cause. The King of the Israelites and all of his men were dismayed and terrified. Germanics and Celts faced the onslaught of the Roman war machine zealously, Romans and Macedonians charged literal elephants on the field of battle, but not one of gods chosen people had the courage to face either the philisitines or their champion. They lack honor and courage, and will only be saved by their faith in god, the ultimate plot armor. Keep in mind for the duration of the story that these chosen warriors of god probably looked like this except even less white
16 For forty days the Philistine came forward every morning and evening and took his stand.
17 Now Jesse said to his son David, “Take this ephah of roasted grain and these ten loaves of bread for your brothers and hurry to their camp. 18 Take along these ten cheeses to the commander of their unit. See how your brothers are and bring back some assurance from them. 19 They are with Saul and all the men of Israel in the Valley of Elah, fighting against the Philistines.”
20 Early in the morning David left the flock in the care of a shepherd, loaded up and set out, as Jesse had directed. He reached the camp as the army was going out to its battle positions, shouting the war cry. 21 Israel and the Philistines were drawing up their lines facing each other. 22 David left his things with the keeper of supplies, ran to the battle lines and asked his brothers how they were. 23 As he was talking with them, Goliath, the Philistine champion from Gath, stepped out from his lines and shouted his usual defiance, and David heard it. 24 Whenever the Israelites saw the man, they all fled from him in great fear.
25 Now the Israelites had been saying, “Do you see how this man keeps coming out? He comes out to defy Israel. The king will give great wealth to the man who kills him. He will also give him his daughter in marriage and will exempt his family from taxes in Israel.”
The Israelites flee and scurry whenever the proud warrior comes out. Nobody has the dignity or honor to face him, and the king even offers his daughter, and more importantly tax exemption (LOL), to whoever will face him
26 David asked the men standing near him, “What will be done for the man who kills this Philistine and removes this disgrace from Israel? Who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God?”
Weird obsession with foreskin
27 They repeated to him what they had been saying and told him, “This is what will be done for the man who kills him.”
28 When Eliab, David’s oldest brother, heard him speaking with the men, he burned with anger at him and asked, “Why have you come down here? And with whom did you leave those few sheep in the wilderness? I know how conceited you are and how wicked your heart is; you came down only to watch the battle.”
29 “Now what have I done?” said David. “Can’t I even speak?” 30 He then turned away to someone else and brought up the same matter, and the men answered him as before. 31 What David said was overheard and reported to Saul, and Saul sent for him.
Read this in a Jew York accent and it'll be clear as day. If that doesn't click with you, notice how the brothers snarl at one another, especially over something of monetary value like their flock. This is just treated as a normal response. Skipping forward a few lines for the sake of brevity.
40 Then he took his staff in his hand, chose five smooth stones from the stream, put them in the pouch of his shepherd’s bag and, with his sling in his hand, approached the Philistine.
41 Meanwhile, the Philistine, with his shield bearer in front of him, kept coming closer to David. 42 He looked David over and saw that he was little more than a boy, glowing with health and handsome, and he despised him. 43 He said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come at me with sticks?” And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. 44 “Come here,” he said, “and I’ll give your flesh to the birds and the wild animals!”
45 David said to the Philistine, “You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. 46 This day the Lord will deliver you into my hands, and I’ll strike you down and cut off your head. This very day I will give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the birds and the wild animals, and the whole world will know that there is a God in Israel. 47 All those gathered here will know that it is not by sword or spear that the Lord saves; for the battle is the Lord’s, and he will give all of you into our hands.”
48 As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. 49 Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell facedown on the ground.
50 So David triumphed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone; without a sword in his hand he struck down the Philistine and killed him.
The philistine is insulted by the perceived lack of seriousness of the Israelites. He doesn't laugh at David or underestimate him, instead, he is disappointed and angry that the Israelites would send a boy with no arms to battles. I'll touch on David's promise soon.
51 David ran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword and drew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off his head with the sword.
When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they turned and ran. 52 Then the men of Israel and Judah surged forward with a shout and pursued the Philistines to the entrance of Gath and to the gates of Ekron. Their dead were strewn along the Shaaraim road to Gath and Ekron. 53 When the Israelites returned from chasing the Philistines, they plundered their camp.
The ending. The noble, righteous Israelis slaughter every single Phillsitine despite accepting the duel. They honored zero of the conditions, cut off the champion's head to show off and later take it as a trophy. They killed everyone, chased them in various directions just to kill them, and looted their camps, leaving the dead everywhere across the lands of the Philistines.
The Jews accepted a deal, then weaseled out of their deal, were cowards in the face of danger, sent a boy in their stead, and then became bloodthirsty butchers the moment they didn't have to risk their own hides, and plundered with glee. They've been doing this shit since 1000 BC