So you didn't read how the Philistines stole the ARK? Or about them constantly warring with Israel through encroachment on their land, razing and killing? Or about the fact that in defense of this by Israel, they killed over 4000 of the Israelites? Why they were fearful? Or about God talking to David both directly and through his heart? There is a heck of a lot more, 31 more chapters to go through which explain the context and about what was happening and show your summary to be quite wrong.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ March 10th, 2024, 02:22I only know what 1 Samuel says - the source passed down from the Israelites, and certain aspects displayed in the archaeological record, which I haven't included because we are just discussing the values of these people based on their own text. That's all I'll add.Xenich wrote: ↑ March 10th, 2024, 01:37Read the whole book of 1st Samuel. Know the entire story, did you? I said numerous times why, you disregarded as if I was telling you a lie. I am not going to sit here and tit for tat versus with you. At least be honest and do your own homework before you start spouting off about being scorned because I didn't answer in the manner that works for your argument.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ March 9th, 2024, 22:39
I ask for proof > "You are continuing as you were.. again.. not bothering". I don't even know what "as you were" meant but okay. Instead of educating me, a sinner, and providing an example for anyone reading that may be on the fence, you devolve to this for everyone to see. Not sure why I expected more of you. Disappointing.
And cut out the poor whiny victim routine. Read if you want to learn because your questions are answered if you simply read what I asked.
I mean, sure.. you can call out that they were cowards if that is what you believe, they were afraid, but your summary of the intent, response, and severity of the actions are all "confined" to a very limited view of the book.
Also, don't act like somehow you are an innocent here that was simply asking questions, your previous comments on Christianity as well as your quick to summarize and proclaim intent is obvious of not wanting to discuss, but dictate your view as truth.
Maybe it is your misconception that Christians are weak and and tolerant, but make no mistake, while some may be, this is not the word of the Bible. While I would be happy to explain as I can, even help you research that which I may not be clear on, I won't waste my time sparing with with someone who has already made up their mind and while I would love for you to embrace Christ, I will not weight myself with the guilt of someone who does not wish to honestly look for him. You make your own choices and you can live with the consequences, this is your God given right.