We have a Steam curator now. You should be following it. https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44994899-RPGHQ/

Is hfa/aspergers under-diagnosed among normies?

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that
User avatar
Emphyrio
Posts: 2189
Joined: Mar 21, '23

Is hfa/aspergers under-diagnosed among normies?

Post by Emphyrio »

Aspergers is an official diagnosis for obsessive interests and social retardation. That's easy to spot in an ugly person who likes things that most other people don't like. A fat pimply kid who dresses bad and wants to talk to you about MMOs, ok, autismo. But what about the handsome, wealthy normoid who wants to tell you the same long story about how he founded his A/R factoring business for the 3rd time? These sorts of people are slipping through the cracks and something MUST be done about them.
User avatar
Anon
Posts: 1798
Joined: Jan 6, '24

Post by Anon »

feels like each single person must have autism/adhd/bipolarity/asperger or any of that stupid shit in nowadays society.
User avatar
Tweed
Turtle
Turtle
Posts: 1639
Joined: Feb 2, '23

Post by Tweed »

Have we made everyone take the tism tests yet?
User avatar
Emphyrio
Posts: 2189
Joined: Mar 21, '23

Post by Emphyrio »

Another example: let's say DeShadius Brown is an asperger. His obsessive interest is expensive sneakers, and his social retardation takes the form of mumbling to himself, constantly stimming and shifting his weight, and not realizing that everyone thinks he stinks horribly. Is he going to get the help he needs in his underserved community?
User avatar
Decline
Posts: 586
Joined: Mar 29, '23

Post by Decline »

Emphyrio wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:10
Aspergers is an official diagnosis
Asperger doesn't exist

"Official Diagnosis" doesn't exist.

It's all just cope. Cope as far as the eye can see.
User avatar
BobT
Posts: 844
Joined: Jan 29, '24
Location: USA

Post by BobT »

Tweed wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:12
Have we made everyone take the tism tests yet?
N-no..
User avatar
ArcaneLurker
Posts: 890
Joined: Feb 6, '24

Post by ArcaneLurker »

Image

I feel autistic for even doing the test.
Last edited by ArcaneLurker on February 23rd, 2024, 05:45, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Vergil
Posts: 3321
Joined: Sep 6, '23

Post by Vergil »

Autism is the hyper manifestation of masculine traits and BPD is the hyper manifestation of feminine traits.
User avatar
KnightoftheWind
Posts: 1618
Joined: Feb 27, '23

Post by KnightoftheWind »

I have a feeling autism/aspergers isn't so much a psychological problem, as it is framed to be nowadays, but a consequence of the adverse health effects caused by injecting newly born infants with toxic quantities of mercury, and other no good very bad things. Perhaps also a result of older women choosing to have babies after their prime, poor diet, etc?.

It's no coincidence that the rates of autism/aspergers have increased dramatically over the years.
User avatar
rusty_shackleford
Site Admin
Posts: 10278
Joined: Feb 2, '23
Contact:

Post by rusty_shackleford »

KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:54
I have a feeling autism/aspergers isn't so much a psychological problem, as it is framed to be nowadays, but a consequence of the adverse health effects caused by injecting newly born infants with toxic quantities of mercury, and other no good very bad things. Perhaps also a result of older women choosing to have babies after their prime, poor diet, etc?.

It's no coincidence that the rates of autism/aspergers have increased dramatically over the years.
The rate hasn't increased, they've just kept expanding the definition.
50 years ago, there was just autism. No 'high functioning autism', 'autism spectrum', and so forth. Aspergers was for people who showed some traits similar to autism but were actually capable of functioning like a human being.
Autism gets thrown around so much that people seem to forget actually autistic kids smear their shit on the walls and can't speak.
Last edited by rusty_shackleford on February 23rd, 2024, 05:58, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
KnightoftheWind
Posts: 1618
Joined: Feb 27, '23

Post by KnightoftheWind »

rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:56
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:54
I have a feeling autism/aspergers isn't so much a psychological problem, as it is framed to be nowadays, but a consequence of the adverse health effects caused by injecting newly born infants with toxic quantities of mercury, and other no good very bad things. Perhaps also a result of older women choosing to have babies after their prime, poor diet, etc?.

It's no coincidence that the rates of autism/aspergers have increased dramatically over the years.
The rate hasn't increased, they've just kept expanding the definition.
50 years ago, there was just autism. No 'high functioning autism', 'autism spectrum', and so forth. Aspbergers was for people who showed some traits similar to autism but were actually capable of functioning like a human being.
Autism gets thrown around so much that people seem to forget actually autistic kids smear their shit on the walls and can't speak.
Not true at all, of course the rate has increased. I bet if you asked an elderly person if they remember hearing anyone mention autism when they were young, or if they saw anyone that could be described as "special", they'd say no. Because it was a rare thing in olden times. Of course people with mental health issues existed in the past, but not in the numbers we're seeing now. This goes beyond just a record-keeping issue.
User avatar
rusty_shackleford
Site Admin
Posts: 10278
Joined: Feb 2, '23
Contact:

Post by rusty_shackleford »

KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:00
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:56
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:54
I have a feeling autism/aspergers isn't so much a psychological problem, as it is framed to be nowadays, but a consequence of the adverse health effects caused by injecting newly born infants with toxic quantities of mercury, and other no good very bad things. Perhaps also a result of older women choosing to have babies after their prime, poor diet, etc?.

It's no coincidence that the rates of autism/aspergers have increased dramatically over the years.
The rate hasn't increased, they've just kept expanding the definition.
50 years ago, there was just autism. No 'high functioning autism', 'autism spectrum', and so forth. Aspbergers was for people who showed some traits similar to autism but were actually capable of functioning like a human being.
Autism gets thrown around so much that people seem to forget actually autistic kids smear their shit on the walls and can't speak.
Not true at all, of course the rate has increased. I bet if you asked an elderly person if they remember hearing anyone mention autism when they were young, or if they saw anyone that could be described as "special", they'd say no. Because it was a rare thing in olden times. Of course people with mental health issues existed in the past, but not in the numbers we're seeing now. This goes beyond just a record-keeping issue.
Because when they were young autistic kids were just sent to asylums to live their life.
User avatar
KnightoftheWind
Posts: 1618
Joined: Feb 27, '23

Post by KnightoftheWind »

rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:02
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:00
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:56


The rate hasn't increased, they've just kept expanding the definition.
50 years ago, there was just autism. No 'high functioning autism', 'autism spectrum', and so forth. Aspbergers was for people who showed some traits similar to autism but were actually capable of functioning like a human being.
Autism gets thrown around so much that people seem to forget actually autistic kids smear their shit on the walls and can't speak.
Not true at all, of course the rate has increased. I bet if you asked an elderly person if they remember hearing anyone mention autism when they were young, or if they saw anyone that could be described as "special", they'd say no. Because it was a rare thing in olden times. Of course people with mental health issues existed in the past, but not in the numbers we're seeing now. This goes beyond just a record-keeping issue.
Because when they were young autistic kids were just sent to asylums to live their life.
Maybe because kids with autism/aspergers were so exceptionally rare, they were treated as special cases that needed to be be sent to an asylum for treatment?. They weren't piling thousands of young children into asylums, Rusty. This isn't one of your animes.
User avatar
rusty_shackleford
Site Admin
Posts: 10278
Joined: Feb 2, '23
Contact:

Post by rusty_shackleford »

KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:09
They weren't piling thousands of young children into asylums, Rusty.
Are you unaware of the deinstitutionalization that took place when they let all the crazies out?
Image
User avatar
madbringer
Turtle
Turtle
Posts: 526
Joined: Apr 4, '23
Location: the vast

Post by madbringer »

These online tests are bs. They turn worry n cynicism into depression n anxiety. Jewish garbage.

Image
User avatar
KnightoftheWind
Posts: 1618
Joined: Feb 27, '23

Post by KnightoftheWind »

rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:13
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:09
They weren't piling thousands of young children into asylums, Rusty.
Are you unaware of the deinstitutionalization that took place when they let all the crazies out?
Image
Completely irrelevant to my argument. Asylums don't have unlimited capacity and the resources to care for patients. A mass institutionalisation of tens of thousands of autistic children would not have been remotely possible, so it stands to reason that autistic children were simply a very rare occurrence decades ago, and any autistic child sent to an asylum would have been few and far between. What makes more sense to you, Alex Jones?.
User avatar
rusty_shackleford
Site Admin
Posts: 10278
Joined: Feb 2, '23
Contact:

Post by rusty_shackleford »

KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:23
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:13
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:09
They weren't piling thousands of young children into asylums, Rusty.
Are you unaware of the deinstitutionalization that took place when they let all the crazies out?
Image
Completely irrelevant to my argument. Asylums don't have unlimited capacity and the resources to care for patients. A mass institutionalisation of tens of thousands of autistic children would not have been remotely possible, so it stands to reason that autistic children were simply a very rare occurrence decades ago, and any autistic child sent to an asylum would have been few and far between. What makes more sense to you, Alex Jones?.
It was so rare that the brits passed a law specifically to send kids that would now be diagnosed with autism to asylums?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_De ... y_Act_1913
A mass institutionalisation of tens of thousands of autistic children would not have been remotely possible
By 1915, they had 15k children institutionalized (Ability, merit, and measurement: Mental testing and English education, 1880-1940, pg 297)

Your complete unwillingness to accept this says more about your lack of knowledge of recent history than anything.
User avatar
KnightoftheWind
Posts: 1618
Joined: Feb 27, '23

Post by KnightoftheWind »

rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:33
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:23
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:13

Are you unaware of the deinstitutionalization that took place when they let all the crazies out?
Image
Completely irrelevant to my argument. Asylums don't have unlimited capacity and the resources to care for patients. A mass institutionalisation of tens of thousands of autistic children would not have been remotely possible, so it stands to reason that autistic children were simply a very rare occurrence decades ago, and any autistic child sent to an asylum would have been few and far between. What makes more sense to you, Alex Jones?.
It was so rare that the brits passed a law specifically to send kids that would now be diagnosed with autism to asylums?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_De ... y_Act_1913
A mass institutionalisation of tens of thousands of autistic children would not have been remotely possible
By 1915, they had 15k children institutionalized (Ability, merit, and measurement: Mental testing and English education, 1880-1940, pg 297)

Your complete unwillingness to accept this says more about your lack of knowledge of recent history than anything.
"Imbeciles" do not imply autistic characteristics. The standard of schooling was much higher than it is today, and it's likely that if you fell too far behind you would be considered worthless to the growing, industrial CONSOOOOMER society, and thus be sent to workhouses and the like. All other cases were, again, likely rare. What you are saying Rusty is that large numbers of autistic people were always around, and that they were simply hidden away in asylums for decades. That would be in an amount far greater than 15,000, given that 1 in 100 children is considered autistic today. Even if it was 1 in 1000, that is an astronomic number. You couldn't cram that many people in asylums, it would look like the Tokyo subway system in the best case scenario.
User avatar
madbringer
Turtle
Turtle
Posts: 526
Joined: Apr 4, '23
Location: the vast

Post by madbringer »

KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:39
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:33
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:23


Completely irrelevant to my argument. Asylums don't have unlimited capacity and the resources to care for patients. A mass institutionalisation of tens of thousands of autistic children would not have been remotely possible, so it stands to reason that autistic children were simply a very rare occurrence decades ago, and any autistic child sent to an asylum would have been few and far between. What makes more sense to you, Alex Jones?.
It was so rare that the brits passed a law specifically to send kids that would now be diagnosed with autism to asylums?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_De ... y_Act_1913
A mass institutionalisation of tens of thousands of autistic children would not have been remotely possible
By 1915, they had 15k children institutionalized (Ability, merit, and measurement: Mental testing and English education, 1880-1940, pg 297)

Your complete unwillingness to accept this says more about your lack of knowledge of recent history than anything.
"Imbeciles" do not imply autistic characteristics. The standard of schooling was much higher than it is today, and it's likely that if you fell too far behind you would be considered worthless to the growing, industrial CONSOOOOMER society, and thus be sent to workhouses and the like. All other cases were, again, likely rare. What you are saying Rusty is that large numbers of autistic people were always around, and that they were simply hidden away in asylums for decades. That would be in an amount far greater than 15,000, given that 1 in 100 children is considered autistic today. Even if it was 1 in 1000, that is an astronomic number. You couldn't cram that many people in asylums, it would look like the Tokyo subway system in the best case scenario.
You seem to ignore the fact that from elementary school onward western schools seek to induce trauma and a feeling of shame in kids of a certain persuasion, as well as ignore the fact that now, more than ever, we are forced to accept sociopaths as normal. Not to mention that doctors prescribe mind altering drugs to children, the media messaging, all of that shit. Asylums? Any sane society would have fucking brainwashing camps en masse just to try n turn that shit around.
User avatar
jcd
Posts: 370
Joined: May 30, '23

Post by jcd »

Instead of these autism tests, you should instead take my test that will tell you which Twilight character you are: https://www.idrlabs.com/twilight-character/test.php
User avatar
Oyster Sauce
Turtle
Turtle
Posts: 2084
Joined: Jun 2, '23

Post by Oyster Sauce »

jcd wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 11:25
Instead of these autism tests, you should instead take my test that will tell you which Twilight character you are: https://www.idrlabs.com/twilight-character/test.php
What's the point when I already know I'm Jasper?
User avatar
Irenaeus
Posts: 937
Joined: Sep 29, '23

Post by Irenaeus »

Autism and its spectrum is a fake disease/condition.

Might as well follow horoscope signs and natal charts.
Last edited by Irenaeus on February 23rd, 2024, 11:33, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Segata
Turtle
Turtle
Posts: 1645
Joined: Feb 2, '23
Location: Sega Saturn, Shiro!

Post by Segata »

Irenaeus wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 11:32
Autism and its spectrum is a fake disease/condition.

Might as well follow horoscope signs and natal charts.
It's called being white, sweety. Source: the arbiter of all things white

Image

Image
User avatar
Irenaeus
Posts: 937
Joined: Sep 29, '23

Post by Irenaeus »

Segata Sanshiro wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 11:37
Irenaeus wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 11:32
Autism and its spectrum is a fake disease/condition.

Might as well follow horoscope signs and natal charts.
It's called being white, sweety.
Image
User avatar
Thor Kaufman
Turtle
Turtle
Posts: 650
Joined: Feb 6, '23
Location: Antisymmetrical

Post by Thor Kaufman »

KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:54
I have a feeling autism/aspergers isn't so much a psychological problem, as it is framed to be nowadays, but a consequence of the adverse health effects caused by injecting newly born infants with toxic quantities of mercury, and other no good very bad things. Perhaps also a result of older women choosing to have babies after their prime, poor diet, etc?.

It's no coincidence that the rates of autism/aspergers have increased dramatically over the years.
Nailed it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/
This docu was the first to wake me up to this even before I was fully vaxxpilled. (All vaccines are (((poisons))), always have been.)
Vax lead to several kinds of damages, brain damage via meningitis for instance, thereby leading to autism. But also prenatally/in utero via other agents.
Autism also is heavily interspersed with the gut. With proper nutrition, like keto for example a lot of symptoms can be severely lessened. Noticed that on myself, as well.

Autism in all kinds of forms used to be negligible. Yes, most autists are also retarto but that doesn't matter. Was still negligible numbers so rusty's argument is stupid. Autism and retarto are overlapping, but not all retards are autistic. Not that hard to grok.
And NO, the cope that it was durrr underdiagnosed is idiotic as well. Autism is not hard to diagnose at all. Unless you are retarded yourself. "HFA" can be seen as just shy or whatever but that's still kinda beside the point. HFA is also fucking retarded, it just means you can tie your shoes. At least Asperger had some kind of meaning, like high verbal etc that could make it count as an actual diagnosis (only a handful exist in psychiatry, anyway).
So imo they removed it BECAUSE it actually made sense. DSM is total shtinky garbo.

I do agree that tism is a fashionable "diagnosis" nowadays, though. Every silly nerd pretends to be a tist. Imo if you don't have any kind of sensory or at least obsessive overload problems you are not an autist.
Last edited by Thor Kaufman on February 23rd, 2024, 11:52, edited 3 times in total.
User avatar
Lutte
Turtle
Turtle
Posts: 130
Joined: Feb 2, '23
Location: Frankistan

Post by Lutte »

rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:02
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 06:00
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 23rd, 2024, 05:56


The rate hasn't increased, they've just kept expanding the definition.
50 years ago, there was just autism. No 'high functioning autism', 'autism spectrum', and so forth. Aspbergers was for people who showed some traits similar to autism but were actually capable of functioning like a human being.
Autism gets thrown around so much that people seem to forget actually autistic kids smear their shit on the walls and can't speak.
Not true at all, of course the rate has increased. I bet if you asked an elderly person if they remember hearing anyone mention autism when they were young, or if they saw anyone that could be described as "special", they'd say no. Because it was a rare thing in olden times. Of course people with mental health issues existed in the past, but not in the numbers we're seeing now. This goes beyond just a record-keeping issue.
Because when they were young autistic kids were just sent to asylums to live their life.
And even when they weren't, it was something to be hidden and not talked about. I dunno if it's autism or something else but one of my cousins was a thoroughly dysfunctional human being and the family just acted like he didn't exist and better not mention the topic at all. In the past people didn't parade their retards and join advocacy groups, it's a very different time from the current era of taking pride in it and talking about it a lot ("they're not retarded, they're just neurodivergent!!11!").
Note that this phenomenon affects more than just mental disabilities, see deaf advocacy groups dramatically opposed to technology that can restore hearing like cochlea implants. If before disability was something to be ashamed of, it's now a badge of pride.

With the change in visibility comes the change in perception, it's normal to feel that there's many more of them today even if it wasn't factually true.
Last edited by Lutte on February 23rd, 2024, 12:05, edited 1 time in total.
Post Reply