List of woke and non-woke role-playing games

[Gunnar]

Could use more quotable opinions on Skald (quantify how woke and girlbossy it is within the boundaries of this list's scoring system).

Same with on Drova, which is run by utterly pozzed and fanatical soyfaces and it needs proper citations.

Most of the people who liked SKALD seem to want to be dishonest about the game being woke and either lie outright and say that it isn’t there like a little weasel (Falksi) or pretend it’s not there and simply not address it. (Most others). Maybe because they liked the game and just want to see it succeed? It’s pathetic either way. I’ll check out the criteria and give a more detailed answer if i have time later on.

[Zothique]

Skald is worse than woke... it's fucking boring.

[Tangerine]

Here's some stuff I noticed.

- The character's gender is separate from their portrait options, so you can make a female with a male portrait and vice-versa. Possibly be an oversight, as the game does not allow you to put beards on females. There are no stat differences between the two.
- Lots of females in positions of authority, particularly in the criminal elements. There's the count's captain of the guard, at least two bandit leaders, the leader of the thieves' guild, the pirate captain's first mate, and the leader of one of the cult groups in the city.
- There's a quest in Firgol where you have to play matchmaker for a couple of dykes.
- Racial makeup is very cosmopolitan LA. You are in a frontier colony of the empire, so you may find this excusable.

Aside from that, the game really fumbles its attempts at Lovecraftian horror. It comes off as "this thing is weird and we're not going to explain it, isn't that spooky?"

[Gunnar]

I read the op and it isn’t clear to me that girlbosses are being defined as woke here?

[rusty_shackleford]

I read the op and it isn’t clear to me that girlbosses are being defined as woke here?

@twig is woke

[Oyster Sauce]

I read the op and it isn’t clear to me that girlbosses are being defined as woke here?

Yesterday he refused to add a game that lets you get gay married and have gay sex

[1998]

I read the op and it isn’t clear to me that girlbosses are being defined as woke here?

Yesterday he refused to add a game that lets you get gay married and have gay sex

Which one was that?

[Oyster Sauce]

I read the op and it isn’t clear to me that girlbosses are being defined as woke here?

Yesterday he refused to add a game that lets you get gay married and have gay sex

Which one was that?

Fable Anniversary allows the player to marry men.
The rival is a black chick but learns her place eventually.
Pretty classic fantasy hero's journey otherwise.

[twig]

Fable was released prior to 2015. Also it's childish crap, don't want it to stink up the list with its banalshitboringness.

I read the op and it isn’t clear to me that girlbosses are being defined as woke here?

It depends on how tastelessly it's done and how much agenda the game pushes overall. It already affects the scores for Tyranny and Disco.

[Roguey]

twig is consistent in that he doesn't believe that games that were liberal in the 90s-00s are woke. You can have gay sex and get get gay married in Fallout 2, not woke.

[rusty_shackleford]

Fable was released prior to 2015. Also it's childish crap, don't want it to stink up the list with its banalshitboringness.

I read the op and it isn’t clear to me that girlbosses are being defined as woke here?

It depends on how tastelessly it's done and how much agenda the game pushes overall. It already affects the scores for Tyranny and Disco.

woke

[rusty_shackleford]

twig is consistent in that he doesn't believe that games that were liberal in the 90s-00s are woke. You can have gay sex and get get gay married in Fallout 2, not woke.

He's wrong

You can have gay sex and get get gay married in Fallout 2, not woke.

Portraying the complete collapse of social morals in the case of a nuclear holocaust is not liberal.

[Roguey]

Portraying the complete collapse of social morals in the case of a nuclear holocaust is not liberal.

It's a pro-moral scenario, you fuck a guy's son/daughter and he catches you in the act and forces you into a shotgun wedding.

[rusty_shackleford]

Portraying the complete collapse of social morals in the case of a nuclear holocaust is not liberal.

It's a pro-moral scenario, you fuck a guy's son/daughter and he catches you in the act and forces you into a shotgun wedding.

Shotgun weddings are not morally good, hth

[Roguey]

Shotgun weddings are not morally good, hth

"You had premarital sex so now you must get married." It's moral enforcement.

[rusty_shackleford]

Shotgun weddings are not morally good, hth

"You had premarital sex so now you must get married." It's moral enforcement.

*game does joke that has been done 500 times before*
roguey, 25 years later: "is this a statement on morality?"

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Shotgun weddings are not morally good, hth

"You had premarital sex so now you must get married." It's moral enforcement.

*game does joke that has been done 500 times before*
roguey, 25 years later: "is this a statement on morality?"

What is a joke in this case?

[rusty_shackleford]

@WhiteShark a quick search suggests that the orthodox church considers marriages performed with one or both parties under threat of violence to be invalid

[rusty_shackleford]

"You had premarital sex so now you must get married." It's moral enforcement.

*game does joke that has been done 500 times before*
roguey, 25 years later: "is this a statement on morality?"

What is a joke in this case?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_w ... ar_culture

[Faceless_Sentinel]

*game does joke that has been done 500 times before*
roguey, 25 years later: "is this a statement on morality?"

What is a joke in this case?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_w ... ar_culture

There is only one film that genre is comedy. I need more explanation.

[WhiteShark]

@WhiteShark a quick search suggests that the orthodox church considers marriages performed with one or both parties under threat of violence to be invalid

Not when they're already married in the flesh:

28 ¶ If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

[rusty_shackleford]

What is a joke in this case?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_w ... ar_culture

There is only one film that genre is comedy. I need more explanation.

The joke is fathers forcing men who slept with their daughter to marry their daughter at gunpoint.

[rusty_shackleford]

@WhiteShark a quick search suggests that the orthodox church considers marriages performed with one or both parties under threat of violence to be invalid

Not when they're already married in the flesh:

28 ¶ If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

I'm going to put some emphasis on virgin for the sake of this argument.

[rusty_shackleford]

twig is consistent in that he doesn't believe that games that were liberal in the 90s-00s are woke. You can have gay sex and get get gay married in Fallout 2, not woke.

He's wrong

You can have gay sex and get get gay married in Fallout 2, not woke.

Portraying the complete collapse of social morals in the case of a nuclear holocaust is not liberal.

Also, his sister says it's sick if you get homo married. Not even people living in a nuclear holocaust wasteland approve of homo marriage.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_w ... ar_culture

There is only one film that genre is comedy. I need more explanation.

The joke is fathers forcing men who slept with their daughter to marry their daughter at gunpoint.

But what is funny about it? If fathers forcing men who slept with their daughter to marry their daughter, this means that this man wasn't going to build long relationships, used woman and trying to avoid responsibilities, this is sad, I would say tragedy.

[rusty_shackleford]

There is only one film that genre is comedy. I need more explanation.

The joke is fathers forcing men who slept with their daughter to marry their daughter at gunpoint.

But what is funny about it? If fathers forcing men who slept with their daughter to marry their daughter, this means that this man wasn't going to build long relationships, used woman and trying to avoid responsibilities, this is sad, I would say tragedy.

Humor doesn't tend to translate well.

[WhiteShark]

I'm going to put some emphasis on virgin for the sake of this argument.

Well, I haven't played the game, so I don't know the details of the scenario. If you're saying she's a non-virgin (that is, already married to someone else), and she willingly sleeps with the protagonist, then the instructions here apply:

22 ¶ If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

[rusty_shackleford]

I'm going to put some emphasis on virgin for the sake of this argument.

Well, I haven't played the game, so I don't know the details of the scenario. If you're saying she's a non-virgin (that is, already married to someone else), and she willingly sleeps with the protagonist, then the instructions here apply:

22 ¶ If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

You can make fun of her for how many sexual partners she's had.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

I'm going to put some emphasis on virgin for the sake of this argument.

Well, I haven't played the game, so I don't know the details of the scenario. If you're saying she's a non-virgin (that is, already married to someone else), and she willingly sleeps with the protagonist, then the instructions here apply:

22 ¶ If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

Interesting, what if she's a non-virgin but not married?

[Faceless_Sentinel]

The joke is fathers forcing men who slept with their daughter to marry their daughter at gunpoint.

But what is funny about it? If fathers forcing men who slept with their daughter to marry their daughter, this means that this man wasn't going to build long relationships, used woman and trying to avoid responsibilities, this is sad, I would say tragedy.

Humor doesn't tend to translate well.

Is this became a joke after sexual revolution?