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Also, party AI sucks, you're expected to babysit them and essentially control all three characters. Absolutely nothing like the gambit system from FF12 which released 14 years prior.
Not like there's anywhere near enough combat to care, you're just walking through corridors slowly.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 9th, 2024, 15:05
Jordy wrote: February 9th, 2024, 09:44
I assume this is the first reactor unless they've changed the story that much to keep Jessie/Wedge/Biggs alive to escape Midgar? If it's the first reactor I guess they forgot this:
It's not a remake, it's a retelling.
The time jannies are a representation of the nostalgia obsessed fans demanding the same exact game be remade, they go around making sure everything goes exactly the same as they did originally when anything goes awry. I found it to be quite hilarious, but obviously it made the people it represents pretty butthurt.
Its a dig on square for banking on the same dumb characters to carry shit games.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: February 9th, 2024, 03:26
BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 03:17
Oyster Sauce wrote: February 9th, 2024, 02:32
Coldsteel the Hedgehog's introduction.
lol wat?

Can't stand this retard, it's so embarrassing to watch. And for the record, I love the latest Death Stranding 2 trailer.
I heard they fucked around with the story too and put in some stupid spirits and dreams of Sephiroth etc. much sooner, filling it with Japanese Fever Dream elements.
It seems that you've mistaken the game for a remake, possibly because it's titled Remake, but it's not actually a remake.
Hated this character. I hate the over the top antics japanese devs nearly always shove in their games, it makes it difficult to take them seriously. Scene of the party being corralled by armed forces, being shot at and run away, woops here comes some guy on his bike jumping through the air and doing flips to knock them all out.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 9th, 2024, 16:45
Oyster Sauce wrote: February 9th, 2024, 03:26

Can't stand this retard, it's so embarrassing to watch. And for the record, I love the latest Death Stranding 2 trailer.
I heard they fucked around with the story too and put in some stupid spirits and dreams of Sephiroth etc. much sooner, filling it with Japanese Fever Dream elements.
It seems that you've mistaken the game for a remake, possibly because it's titled Remake, but it's not actually a remake.
Hated this character. I hate the over the top antics japanese devs nearly always shove in their games, it makes it difficult to take them seriously. Scene of the party being corralled by armed forces, being shot at and run away, woops here comes some guy on his bike jumping through the air and doing flips to knock them all out.
Japanese devs are better than American ones but they are still weird as fuck. All their characters are like really effeminate men who can't stand up for themselves or are gay and evil. The women are usually good to look at though.
They tend to think they need to make movies and the game play is secondary just like here too though.
I really liked ff7 remakes combat for the most part
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It isn't that the protags are effeminate, but childish, because jrpgs are mostly written for children. The eye candy is to catch all the adolescent boys and men who still play games.
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I wish I could drive like this
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Honeybee Inn was always gay as fuck, but WHAT THE FUCK IS THIISSS :headbang: :mad:
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BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 20:35
Honeybee Inn was always gay as fuck, but WHAT THE FUCK IS THIISSS :headbang: :mad:
The guy this mod replaces: https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Andrea_Rhodea
And yes, one of the gayest things I've seen. I'm surprised the bees weren't all men in drag like Cloud is by the end of it.
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Why did they have to go THAT far and make it even worse???
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BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 20:42
Why did they have to go THAT far and make it even worse???
"Daddy's so lonely" :lol:

Less niggers than the original. That's something? I guess.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 9th, 2024, 21:08
BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 20:42
Why did they have to go THAT far and make it even worse???
"Daddy's so lonely" :lol:

Less niggers than the original. That's something? I guess.
Euuuuuurgh. Fortunately this scene wasn't direct part of the main game. Even missed it completely the first time around. Still though if anything that's one bit that could have been gotten rid of, not being made even MORE gay with overly extended dance scenes etc. Less niggers is one minor plus I guess.. I bet the new bit is part of the main storyline and unmissable now, too?

Again, just remaster the fucking original and leave it as is, warts an' all. I don't understand the tampering.


Are there any other gayasfuck bits in the original? My brain mostly scarred over this one.
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BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 21:18
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 9th, 2024, 21:08
BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 20:42
Why did they have to go THAT far and make it even worse???
"Daddy's so lonely" :lol:

Less niggers than the original. That's something? I guess.
Euuuuuurgh. Fortunately this scene wasn't direct part of the main game. Even missed it completely the first time around. Still though if anything that's one bit that could have been gotten rid of, not being made even MORE gay with overly extended dance scenes etc. Less niggers is one minor plus I guess.. I bet the new bit is part of the main storyline and unmissable now, too?

Again, just remaster the fucking original and leave it as is, warts an' all. I don't understand the tampering.
Glad I missed it, since I was a kid when I played it.
And you're right, that whole dance GayPride Party, plus the minigame, is not optional like the old Mukki scene, which is easy to miss. It's the replacement for Cloud getting makeup from the bee women, his 'disguise' is completed by the end.

Hm... It's hard to top gigatwink Cloud (potentially) being molested... and then being forced into drag to save Tifa.
I don't think there was anything else like that in Disc 2/3.
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It's strange how a lot of their degeneracy is waved away, even by "our guys". So much of Japanese games/media feature young, effeminate men as protagonists, and I have heard their history includes a lot of sodomy too, which could explain a lot of this stuff.

Sad that our "best" media would come from a place like this.
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That is true. That's why I like the games that feature normal hetrosexual relationships (Xenogears). Bit of Freudian weirdness there of course, but still..
Final Fantasy usually just has the typical harem nonsense.
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I'm glad I only play western games, where there's no gay stuff at all!
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Oyster Sauce wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:08
I'm glad I only play western games, where there's no gay stuff at all!
I didn't say that, but I am saying that Japan isn't much better. On a surface level they are, but it doesn't take much to see the same "message" embedded into their stuff.
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BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:06
That is true. That's why I like the games that feature normal hetrosexual relationships (Xenogears). Bit of Freudian weirdness there of course, but still..
Final Fantasy usually just has the typical harem nonsense.
That would be fine if Xenogears wasn't as fun as watching paint dry.
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KnightoftheWind wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:11
BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:06
That is true. That's why I like the games that feature normal hetrosexual relationships (Xenogears). Bit of Freudian weirdness there of course, but still..
Final Fantasy usually just has the typical harem nonsense.
That would be fine if Xenogears wasn't as fun as watching paint dry.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:15
KnightoftheWind wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:11
BobT wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:06
That is true. That's why I like the games that feature normal hetrosexual relationships (Xenogears). Bit of Freudian weirdness there of course, but still..
Final Fantasy usually just has the typical harem nonsense.
That would be fine if Xenogears wasn't as fun as watching paint dry.
What the fuck is this shit? And why do the voiceovers sound like average bro youtube commentators?
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That's another thing about Japanese games, their characters rarely shut up :lol:
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KnightoftheWind wrote: February 9th, 2024, 21:55
It's strange how a lot of their degeneracy is waved away, even by "our guys". So much of Japanese games/media feature young, effeminate men as protagonists, and I have heard their history includes a lot of sodomy too, which could explain a lot of this stuff.

Sad that our "best" media would come from a place like this.
deluded weebs, they especially love whataboutism
Oyster Sauce wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:08
I'm glad I only play western games, where there's no gay stuff at all!
see?
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I don't even know if the effeminate and gay stuff can be aimed at the FF series. Maybe modern FFVII (from Advent Children onwards) but up until then I can't think of anything.

Edit - Wall Market weirdness aside... ahem.
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Well they did go from being "punky grumpy boy with grouchy old adviser", to full-on "fruity boy with suave handsome ally".
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Haha yeah that picture of Vaan is questionable but in game didn't come across as fruity from what I remember.
  • FFVII - Wall street aside I don't think there's much else like that in the game that I can remember. You'd have to use your imagination with the graphics to point out an effeminate character.
  • FFVIII - No gay stuff I can remember. You could argue Laguna/Squall being effeminate but I think that would be a push.
  • FFIX - No gay stuff I can remember. Chibi style shit so not even sure where to start with this.
  • FFX - No gay stuff I can remember. Tidus could be seen as effeminate but imo he's just a boy. Seymour is questionable.
  • FFXII - Nothing I can think of apart from the Vaan picture above.
  • FFXIII - Nothing I can think of.
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East Asians are more androgynous by default, so I don't think it's that strange that their protagonists, who are typically young, don't look extremely masculine by western standards.
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Jordy wrote: February 9th, 2024, 22:41
FFVIII - No gay stuff I can remember
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