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The goal of this thread is to showcase and raise awareness of the horrendous state of localization we've been dealing with for decades. More accurate translations will be linked whenever possible, official or otherwise.

Localized Games

13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
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Advance Wars
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Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp
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Akiba's Trip: Undead & Undressed
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Alundra
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Animal Crossing: New Horizons
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Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland
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Azure Striker Gunvolt
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Azure Striker Gunvolt 2
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Baten Kaitos 1 & 2 HD Remaster
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Bravely Default
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Bravely Second: End Layer
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Breath of Fire
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Breath of Fire II
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Chrono Cross Remaster
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Collection of SaGa Final Fantasy Legend
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Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
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Danganronpa S: Ultimate Summer Camp
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Dark Souls
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Dark Souls 3
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Devil May Cry V
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Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
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Disgaea 2
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Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten
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Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy
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Dragon Quest III
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Dragon Quest IV
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Dragon Quest V
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Dragon Quest IX
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Dragon Quest XI
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Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
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Elden Ring
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Elex
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Elex 2
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Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl
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Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse Remaster
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Final Fantasy
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Final Fantasy IV
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Final Fantasy VI
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Final Fantasy Tactics
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Final Fantasy VIII
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Final Fantasy IX
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Final Fantasy X
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Final Fantasy XIV
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Final Fantasy XVI
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Final Fantasy Type 0 HD
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
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Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade
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Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
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Fire Emblem Awakening
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Fire Emblem: Fates
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Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
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Fire Emblem: Three Houses
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Fire Emblem: Engage
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Ghostwire: Tokyo
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Gotta Protectors
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Granblue Fantasy Versus
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Grandia II
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Hyperdimension Neptunia
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Labyrinth of Refrain
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Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
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Live A Live Remake
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Lost Ark
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Lost Judgement
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Lufia 2 Rise of the Sinistrals
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Lunar: Eternal Blue
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Megaton Musashi
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Metal Gear Solid
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Monster Hunter Generations
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Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin
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Mushoku Tensei
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NEO: The World Ends With You
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NieR:Automata
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Octopath Traveler II
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One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4
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Persona 5 Royal
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Persona 3 Reload
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Justice for All
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Trials and Tribulations
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Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice
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Phantasy Star Universe
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Pikmin 2
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Pocky & Rocky Reshrined
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Pokémon
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Pokémon Red and Blue
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Pokémon Gold and Silver
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Pokémon Diamond and Pearl
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Pokémon Battle Revolution
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Pokémon Black and White
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Pokémon Black and White 2
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Pokémon Legends: Arceus
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Pokémon Scarlet and Violet
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Revelations: Persona
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Rockman DASH
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Rockman Zero 2
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Rune Factory 3
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Rune Factory 3 Special
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Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny
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Rune Factory 4
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Rune Factory 5
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Ryuusei no Rockman
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Samurai Maiden
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Skies of Arcadia
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Snack World
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Star Ocean: The Second Story
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Star Ocean: The Divine Force
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Summon Night 5
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Super Paper Mario
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Super Robot Wars 30
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Tactics Ogre Reborn
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Tales of Phantasia
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Tales of Zestiria
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Tales of Berseria
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Tales of Hearts R
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Tales of Xillia
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The House in Fata Morgana
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 3
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie
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The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
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The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Seasons
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The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
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The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
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The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
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Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
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Tokyo Xanadu
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Trials of Mana 3
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Triangle Strategy
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Trinity Universe
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Unicorn Overlord
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Valkyria Chronicles
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Valkyria Chronicles 4
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Vay: Ryuusei no Yoroi
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Xenoblade Chronicles
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Xenoblade Chronicles X
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Xenoblade Chronicles 2
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Xenoblade Chronicles 3
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Yakuza 3 Remastered
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Yakuza 4 Remastered
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Yakuza 5 Remastered
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Yakuza 0
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Yokai Watch
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Yoshi's Island
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Ys IX: Monstrum Nox
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Zanki Zero: Last Beginning
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Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 2
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Localization Companies

8-4
Games localized: Azure Striker Gunvolt, Azure Striker Gunvolt 2, Fire Emblem: Awakening, Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, Unicorn Overlord
Employees: Brian Gray, Jon Riesenbach

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Games localized: Tokyo Xanadu
Employees: Ben Martinez-Bateman

Bandai Namco Europe Website Twitter Linkedin
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Employees: Franck Genty
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Binari Sonori Website Twitter Linkedin
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Games localized: Bravely Default

Capcom Twitter
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Cygames Website Twitter Linkedin
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Digital Hearts Website Linkedin
Games localized: Samurai Maiden

Dragonbaby Website Twitter Linkedin
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Games localized: Star Ocean: The Divine Force
Employees: Jeremy Blaustein (CEO), Sam Burton
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Nintendo Treehouse Tumblr
Games localized: Animal Crossing: New Horizons, Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, Fire Emblem: Fates, Fire Emblem: Three Houses
Employees: Niko Ferryn Lennox

NISA Website Twitter Linkedin
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Games localized: Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland, Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten, The Legend of Heroes: Trails From Zero, The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure, The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 3, The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie, Ys IX: Monstrum Nox
Employees: Derek Heemsbergen
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Olive Jirushi
Games localized: Octopath Traveler II, Triangle Strategy
Employees: Kristin Osani

Sega Website Twitter Linkedin
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Games localized: 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
Employees: Derk Bramer, Jon Riesenbach, Katrina Leonoudakis
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Shloc Website Twitter Linkedin
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Games localized: Dragon Quest IX, Dragon Quest XI

Square Enix(USA) Twitter
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Games localized: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, NEO: The World Ends With You
Employees: Matthew Furda
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Working Designs Website
Games localized: Alundra, Lunar: Eternal Blue, Vay: Ryuusei no Yoroi

XSEED Website Twitter Linkedin
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Games localized: Akiba's Trip: Undead & Undressed, Granblue Fantasy Versus, Rune Factory 5, The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky, The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel
Employees: Derek Heemsbergen, Derk Bramer, Stephan Meyerink
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Localizers

Ben Martinez-Bateman Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: Aksys Games
Games worked on:
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Brian Gray Website Twitter
Companies worked for: 8-4, JPEN (owner)
Games worked on: Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes, Gotta Protectors
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Derek Heemsbergen Website Linkedin
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Companies worked for: NISA, XSEED
Games worked on: Rune Factory 5, The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Reverie, The Legend of Heroes: Trails Into Cold Steel IV
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Derk Bramer Website Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: Sega, The Pokémon Company International, XSEED
Games worked on: Rune Factory 5, Valkyria Chronicles 4, Yakuza 3 Remastered, Yakuza 4 Remastered
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Franck Genty Linkedin
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Companies worked for: Bandai Namco Europe
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Jeremy Blaustein Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: Dragonbaby (CEO)
Games worked on: Metal Gear Solid
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Jeremy "Alice" Davidson Website Twitter VNDB
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Companies worked for:
Games worked on: The House in Fata Morgana
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Jon Riesenbach Moby Games Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: 8-4, Sega
Games worked on: Persona 5 Royal, Unicorn Overlord, Yakuza 3 Remaster, Yakuza 4 Remaster, Yakuza 5 Remaster
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Katrina Leonoudakis Website Twitter Linkedin Bluesky
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Companies worked for: Sega
Games worked on: 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 5 Royal, Shin Megami Tensei V, Yakuza 3 Remaster, Yakuza 4 Remaster, Yakuza 5 Remaster
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Kristin Osani Website Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: Olive Jirushi
Games worked on: Octopath Traveler II, Triangle Strategy
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Matthew Furda Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: Square Enix(USA)
Games worked on: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, NEO: The World Ends With You
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Miguel Sanchez Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for:
Games worked on: The Tomorrow Children, Sol Cresta, Bayonetta 3
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Niko Ferryn Lennox Instagram Facebook
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Companies worked for: Nintendo Treehouse
Games worked on:
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Sam Burton Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: Dragonbaby
Games worked on: Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes, Star Ocean: The Divine Force
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Stephen Meyerink Website Twitter Linkedin
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Companies worked for: XSEED
Games worked on: Ghostwire: Tokyo
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Ted Woolsey
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Games worked on: Final Fantasy VI

Valuable Resources

Varis Hangout
The Kiwi Farms thread "Game Censorship & Localization General Thread"
Legends of Localization
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► Contribution guide
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This should be enough to start. I'll continue updating until all troonslaters are dead.
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There is plenty of stuff that you can steal from here

https://varishangout.com/index.php?thre ... thread.31/
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Trails into Reverie
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It's time to hang all localizers!
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Isn't this like the third or fourth thread on this topic?
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"I'm being ERASED!!!!"
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Finally some good fucking posts.

Some of these I didn't know about. Good categorizing of games too.. super easy to find titles I was interested in.
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Post by Goblin_Hammer »

Vergil wrote: ↑ January 6th, 2024, 04:30
Isn't this like the third or fourth thread on this topic?
I did do a thread a little earlier than this but that was mainly about AI and if it will take over localizations.
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Do you think we should make a new thread or append this to also add lefty voice actors, YouTubers or any social media whores like Yong Yea, Sphere Hunter, ProZD that infiltrate voice acting roles? ProZD was the retard that wanted "race based" voice acting then complained about race based voice acting when he was forced to do only Asian roles.
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Here's your beloved Castlevania Symphony of the Night intro bro —translated by Jeremy (((Blaustein))):

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Segata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ January 7th, 2024, 17:32
Here's your beloved Castlevania Symphony of the Night intro bro —translated by Jeremy (((Blaustein))):

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He's on my list. I know he made a lot of pointless changes in MGS 1 but I want to dig up a bit more dirt.
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Decent read:

https://dionysussite.wordpress.com/2023 ... l-english/
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@Oyster Sauce below is a chart of all name changes from Advance Wars 1 through Days of Ruin. A blank means unchanged or absent. Parentheses in the JP Name column contain additional information about the meaning. Note that the Orange Star faction was originally the Red Star faction and some CO Power names reference this.
► Name Chart
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I agree with the part about 'localization' being, by definition, the imposition of of the localizer's views onto a foreign work, but the author doesn't offer any useful alternative, for he also proscribes the 'outdated' idea of literal translation, leaving one to wonder how exactly he thinks translation should be done. As a staunch critic of localizers in the 'basically infertile and pointless debate', it seems obvious to me that translation should be done as literally as possible except in cases where it would be unintelligible or obscure important connotations.

As for example, ittou ryoudan (一刀両断) is a phrase with a dual meaning. On the one hand, the plain meaning of the characters is 'one sword two/both slice/decide', or to bisect with one sword stroke. On the other hand, it's a metaphor for taking decisive action. If you want the reader to be able to understand, then you have no choice but to translate it differently depending on the context, for 'bisect with one sword stroke', or just 'bisect', simply does not have the same breadth of meaning in English as it does in Japanese.
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Segata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ January 7th, 2024, 17:32
Here's your beloved Castlevania Symphony of the Night intro bro —translated by Jeremy (((Blaustein))):
This makes me extra furious because people will defend the localization by saying 'it's better'. And you know what? Some of it does sound pretty good. "'Mankind ill needs a savior such as you!" is a great line. Probably every person who's ever played the game remembers the 'What is a man?' line. The problem is that doesn't matter. It's still a butchery. The (((localizer))) treated the dialogue as his personal canvas instead of respecting the original. It's the height of both arrogance and dishonesty to write your own prose under the title of another's work.
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I never finished it, but I mostly translated Fallout Sonora from Russian to English. Sometimes, things just don't map well, especially idioms or culture-specific things.
Also doesn't help that I can't speak a word of Russian, I used multiple finetuned translation models and typically created an approximation of what sounded best. :scratch:

Here's a fun question:
What is a translator supposed to do when the author made a genuine mistake and the translator can't contact the author to fix it?
For example, I know much more about the location being written than the authors themselves, and studied the Arizona Rangers which are rather integral to the story indirectly through the Desert Rangers.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2024, 22:47
I never finished it, but I mostly translated Fallout Sonora from Russian to English. Sometimes, things just don't map well, especially idioms or culture-specific things.
Even did the full UI back to English
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2024, 22:47
I never finished it, but I mostly translated Fallout Sonora from Russian to English. Sometimes, things just don't map well, especially idioms or culture-specific things.
Also doesn't help that I can't speak a word of Russian, I used multiple finetuned translation models and typically created an approximation of what sounded best. :scratch:

Here's a fun question:
What is a translator supposed to do when the author made a genuine mistake and the translator can't contact the author to fix it?
For example, I know much more about the location being written than the authors themselves, and studied the Arizona Rangers which are rather integral to the story indirectly through the Desert Rangers.

I would say respect the spirit of the intent.

If the idea is to create a well written and immersive setting, specially one based on aspects of Real Life, then adherence to that should take priority.

Correcting techno-babble in a made up scifi device is different. Even if its a stretch of our undestanding of science.

But if the spirit of the intent is to make references to IRL places, eras or people, then close adherence to what those things are like IRL would be preferable, even if it goes against the original script.

My humble opinion, as always.
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I think, ultimately, the quality of the translation isn't the issue (though, it is a problem), but the fact leftist localizers are malicious and motivated by spite.

16-bit translations of Japanese games weren't by no means perfect, let alone accurate, but at least Woolsey and his ilk weren't pushing any particular agenda.
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gerey wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2024, 23:28
I think, ultimately, the quality of the translation isn't the issue (though, it is a problem), but the fact leftist localizers are malicious and motivated by spite.

16-bit translations of Japanese games weren't by no means perfect, let alone accurate, but at least Woolsey and his ilk weren't pushing any particular agenda.
And sometimes they had to employ some witchcraft.

Like how character limits worked. So, some items and names had to be changed to fit. No other way around it.

Compare to now, where the localizer deliberately butcher or ignore the actual translation just so they can peddle their propaganda.
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Cipher wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2024, 23:36
And sometimes they had to employ some witchcraft.
Hilltop, the translator of Boku no Natsuyasumi 2, Aconcagua and Racing Lagoon has a few interesting videos where he details the kind of technical wizardry and out-of-the-box thinking he had to employ to translate some of the games he's worked on (Aconcagua especially).

Sometimes there's also issues with time constraints and lack of support from the Japanese branch - Final Fantasy VII's official translation is fairly shoddy because the team was under a very tight schedule to translate the game, so they cut corners.

Then again, you also have subhumans like NISA that consistently fuck things up - to the point they once released a game that would melt your PS3 under the right circumstances, all because of their incompetence. They usually even introduce bugs not present in the Japanese version of the game.

I genuinely wish death upon every NISA and Treehouse employee.
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I recall western dub removed gay couple in card captor sakura in 2001. How times have changed.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ January 9th, 2024, 00:08
I recall western dub removed gay couple in card captor sakura in 2001. How times have changed.
I didn't know that show had gay characters.
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Dead wrote: ↑ January 9th, 2024, 00:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ January 9th, 2024, 00:08
I recall western dub removed gay couple in card captor sakura in 2001. How times have changed.
I didn't know that show had gay characters.
Sakura's brother is gay. But they never really make a big fuss about it.
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@Oyster Sauce CO portraits for AW1 below. For each character with two different portraits, the one on the right is the JP original and the one on the left is the localized version.
► Sprite Sheet
And one more for Kikuchiyo/Kanbei, who had a different portrait for the CN version that was never released:
► CN Prototype Kikuchiyo
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2024, 22:47
Here's a fun question:
What is a translator supposed to do when the author made a genuine mistake and the translator can't contact the author to fix it?
For example, I know much more about the location being written than the authors themselves, and studied the Arizona Rangers which are rather integral to the story indirectly through the Desert Rangers.
He shouldn't even try to contact him, not what he is being paid for. Once you do that you pretty much tell them you are OK with doing free QA on the side.
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gerey wrote: ↑ January 9th, 2024, 00:06
Cipher wrote: ↑ January 8th, 2024, 23:36
And sometimes they had to employ some witchcraft.
Hilltop, the translator of Boku no Natsuyasumi 2, Aconcagua and Racing Lagoon has a few interesting videos where he details the kind of technical wizardry and out-of-the-box thinking he had to employ to translate some of the games he's worked on (Aconcagua especially).

Sometimes there's also issues with time constraints and lack of support from the Japanese branch - Final Fantasy VII's official translation is fairly shoddy because the team was under a very tight schedule to translate the game, so they cut corners.

Then again, you also have subhumans like NISA that consistently fuck things up - to the point they once released a game that would melt your PS3 under the right circumstances, all because of their incompetence. They usually even introduce bugs not present in the Japanese version of the game.

I genuinely wish death upon every NISA and Treehouse employee.

Yeah, NISA sucks.
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My eyes glazed over after the sixth paragraph. All that text just to say :notsureif: "like, nothing is even real, dude" :notsureif:.
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