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Vergil wrote: December 13th, 2023, 08:38
Piggy wrote: December 12th, 2023, 02:40
This place needs more gatekeeping
I would be more than happy if the free speech aspect was toned down and retards like the wop or Red7 were Night of the Long Knives'd for the sake of quality since they both seem to enjoy ESL vomiting into random threads.
cry more cumguzzling faggot. i guess its what fag does when it got no agruments. i mean that works for vagina cause crying vagina extra lubrication for skull fucking but on a fag its pointless.
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Red7 wrote: January 9th, 2024, 16:42
omnipotence contradicts omniscience
they are exact opposite, knowing everything means determinism/complete impotence and being able to do anything means impossibilty to know anything
This alleged paradox is nothing new to Christian thought, with philosophers such as St. Thomas and St. Augustine weighing in on it during their lifetimes. Your version, which I believe stems from Dawkins, is only a paradox because you made a priori assumption. Specifically, you assumed that God is bound to time as we perceive it. The first line of the Bible is: "In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth." (Genesis 1:1). What is the beginning the Bible speaks of if not time itself? God created time when He created Heaven and Earth. God can neither know nor be ignorant of His future actions because "future" is a temporal direction and God exists outside of it.
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AmericanMonarchist wrote: January 18th, 2024, 00:42
Red7 wrote: January 9th, 2024, 16:42
omnipotence contradicts omniscience
they are exact opposite, knowing everything means determinism/complete impotence and being able to do anything means impossibilty to know anything
This alleged paradox is nothing new to Christian thought, with philosophers such as St. Thomas and St. Augustine weighing in on it during their lifetimes. Your version, which I believe stems from Dawkins, is only a paradox because you made a priori assumption. Specifically, you assumed that God is bound to time as we perceive it. The first line of the Bible is: "In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth." (Genesis 1:1). What is the beginning the Bible speaks of if not time itself? God created time when He created Heaven and Earth. God can neither know nor be ignorant of His future actions because "future" is a temporal direction and God exists outside of it.
1)its not alleged but trivia
2)dawkins is so retarded he wouldnt be able to think his way out of broken condom used by donkey that fucked his mother
3)u dont get that causality/science IS TIME

(fundamental reality) time/causality is fundamental if u want to any deduction. that being said our perception of time has nothing to do with it as our reality is simulated (reverse causality in quantum erasion experiment). just like u play fucking video game in game u can do with time aything but all computation is done in arrow of time and non continuity of time/frames/quantization are just artefacts of emulation.

as for the sub system/god is outside bullshit argument;
its very same as neo darwininan gibberish of making semi frozen system, thats utterly pointless (it would mean god has 0 power btw)
u can make video game with set future events but its not a fucking game really, it a fucking movie thats worthless from experimental function. and fucntion of emulation is low cost experiment.

what i said about omnipotence and omniscience is pure fucking logic, there is no fucking assumption here (and perhaps its only thing that can apply for science with no extra assumption btw which is VERY rare in science).
because only "assumption" is science/causality itself. u are not different fundametally than retards who also believe in magic/supernatural they just call it randomness/neo darwinian evolution

supernatural by definition cannot exist, all what is, is natural and can be explained, unless one is retarded enough to be told by church jews or darwinian jews that its magic therefore pursuit for understanding is fucking futile.
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Phos wrote: December 9th, 2023, 13:23
Decline wrote: December 9th, 2023, 05:05
All sexual relations - regardless of the details - are a barrier stopping you from a closer relationship with God.
RPGHQ member @Decline has put forward this thesis. What do you guys think about it?
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Wretch wrote: December 11th, 2023, 12:31
Eastern rite Catholics also have married clergy.
They don't actually, where did you hear this?
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Gastrick wrote: January 26th, 2024, 06:52
Wretch wrote: December 11th, 2023, 12:31
Eastern rite Catholics also have married clergy.
They don't actually, where did you hear this?
Melkites definitely have married clergy. I am friends with a former melkite priest. Here is a cursory google search.
Eastern Rite Catholics like the Maronites and Melkites are following rules that would be familiar to any Greek Orthodox Christian. Priests may marry prior to ordination, but not after
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Wretch wrote: January 26th, 2024, 11:49
Gastrick wrote: January 26th, 2024, 06:52
Wretch wrote: December 11th, 2023, 12:31
Eastern rite Catholics also have married clergy.
They don't actually, where did you hear this?
Melkites definitely have married clergy. I am friends with a former melkite priest. Here is a cursory google search.
Eastern Rite Catholics like the Maronites and Melkites are following rules that would be familiar to any Greek Orthodox Christian. Priests may marry prior to ordination, but not after
I looked it up, and this seems to be just in diaspora countries that it was disallowed for Eastern Rite Catholics, including North America and Australia. It seems though that semi-recently in 2014, Pope Francis lifted this ban. In practice, it still is uncommon at least in Canada, and this would only apply to priests ordained within the last 8 years.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/ ... s-diaspora
The Vatican has lifted its ban on the ordination of married men to the priesthood in Eastern Catholic churches outside their traditional territories, including in the United States, Canada and Australia.

Pope Francis approved lifting the ban, also doing away with the provision that, in exceptional cases, Eastern Catholic bishops in the diaspora could receive Vatican approval to ordain married men. In recent years, however, some Eastern Catholic bishops went ahead with such ordinations discreetly without Vatican approval.

Cardinal Leonardo Sandri, prefect of the Congregation for the Eastern Churches, signed the decree June 14. It was published later online in the Acta Apostolicae Sedis, the official periodical through which Vatican laws and decisions are published.

The new law says the pope concedes to Eastern Catholic bishops outside their traditional territory the faculties to "allow pastoral service of Eastern married clergy" and "to ordain Eastern married candidates" in their eparchies or dioceses, although they must inform the local Latin-rite bishop in writing "in order to have his opinion and any relevant information."

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