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gunbino wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2023, 14:02

Thanks for this mod. It's the final piece of the puzzle for me. Any idea how update-proof it is since you're editing binary files?

GOW LIKE A BOSS wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 00:18

The Weave scene was my first moment of "wtf?" in BG3. Soon after, I started realizing that every man - including ones like Gale who, per his own story, is clearly straight - are secretly gay and pick up on signals I never send to hit on me.

Honestly, it severely decreased my enjoyment of the game. Nothing like non-loreful wokeness to ruin a fantasy game.

Thank you for helping to save this game. Next time I boot up BG3, this mod will be part of my game forevermore.

BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 16:48

Hello - new user here.

@Crusaderknight20 , I would like a small clarification. If this NoMaleRomance mod is supposedly preventing guy-on-guy flirting, I don't get the part where you say

" For example, in the NoMaleRom version, we have reworked the narrator's lines to convey a platonic narrative. Players should carefully avoid choosing romance lines in certain scenes, like Gale's weave scene, which we have intentionally kept non-romantic"

So does this mean that there guy-on-guy flirt lines available for my Tav to say? And if I choose said lines, a romance with Male Tav / Gale will trigger? And if it does, exactly how is the mod preventing NoMaleRomance?

0utlaw wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 18:08

This is amazing, I literally just asked for something like this on steam forums and they suspended me. I didn't mention anything about genders or whom was romancing whom... I just wanted to be able to disable it. We've got timebombs in our heads, literal devils trying to make deals with you, lets keep it in our pants guys at least until something isn't trying to kill us in our sleep.

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 18:54

BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 16:48

Hello - new user here.

@Crusaderknight20 , I would like a small clarification. If this NoMaleRomance mod is supposedly preventing guy-on-guy flirting, I don't get the part where you say

" For example, in the NoMaleRom version, we have reworked the narrator's lines to convey a platonic narrative. Players should carefully avoid choosing romance lines in certain scenes, like Gale's weave scene, which we have intentionally kept non-romantic"

So does this mean that there guy-on-guy flirt lines available for my Tav to say? And if I choose said lines, a romance with Male Tav / Gale will trigger? And if it does, exactly how is the mod preventing NoMaleRomance?

Hello, I'm currently working on fine-tuning it. I will change those lines to something else, but please note that Gale's reaction will remain the same. I have more freedom to change the narrator's dialogue. Another thing to consider is that Gale has the picnic scene, which can be interpreted as either platonic or romantic.

There are two versions of the scene labeled as 'Romantic' and 'Standard.' In comparison, Wyll's dance scene explicitly includes the word 'Romantic.' The only aspect that, in my opinion, is not platonic is the way they're sitting on the grass.

I will take everyone's feedback into account and make any necessary changes to the dialogue. However, for now, the available version still contains those lines, and if you select two of those lines, you will activate the romance flag. My next update will deactivate those flags.

BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 19:00

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 18:54

BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 16:48

Hello - new user here.

@Crusaderknight20 , I would like a small clarification. If this NoMaleRomance mod is supposedly preventing guy-on-guy flirting, I don't get the part where you say

" For example, in the NoMaleRom version, we have reworked the narrator's lines to convey a platonic narrative. Players should carefully avoid choosing romance lines in certain scenes, like Gale's weave scene, which we have intentionally kept non-romantic"

So does this mean that there guy-on-guy flirt lines available for my Tav to say? And if I choose said lines, a romance with Male Tav / Gale will trigger? And if it does, exactly how is the mod preventing NoMaleRomance?

Hello, I'm currently working on fine-tuning it. I will change those lines to something else, but please note that Gale's reaction will remain the same. I have more freedom to change the narrator's dialogue. Another thing to consider is that Gale has the picnic scene, which can be interpreted as either platonic or romantic.

There are two versions of the scene labeled as 'Romantic' and 'Standard.' In comparison, Wyll's dance scene explicitly includes the word 'Romantic.' The only aspect that, in my opinion, is not platonic is the way they're sitting on the grass.

I will take everyone's feedback into account and make any necessary changes to the dialogue. However, for now, the available version still contains those lines, and if you select two of those lines, you will activate the romance flag. My next update will deactivate those flags.

It's your mod, it's your rules.

As a mere suggestion, (not in any way telling you how to do your mod) as a mere suggestion ... wouldn't it be better to simply 'take out' lines which lead to bro-bro romance? Or is that simply not feasible?

For example, if Tav has three lines

A) Meh.
B) Nice house.
C) Let's ****. -> flirt dialog which leads to sex scene

Wouldn't it be better to just take out option C?

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 18:54

BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 16:48

Hello - new user here.

@Crusaderknight20 , I would like a small clarification. If this NoMaleRomance mod is supposedly preventing guy-on-guy flirting, I don't get the part where you say

" For example, in the NoMaleRom version, we have reworked the narrator's lines to convey a platonic narrative. Players should carefully avoid choosing romance lines in certain scenes, like Gale's weave scene, which we have intentionally kept non-romantic"

So does this mean that there guy-on-guy flirt lines available for my Tav to say? And if I choose said lines, a romance with Male Tav / Gale will trigger? And if it does, exactly how is the mod preventing NoMaleRomance?

Hello, I'm currently working on fine-tuning it. I will change those lines to something else, but please note that Gale's reaction will remain the same. I have more freedom to change the narrator's dialogue. Another thing to consider is that Gale has the picnic scene, which can be interpreted as either platonic or romantic.

There are two versions of the scene labeled as 'Romantic' and 'Standard.' In comparison, Wyll's dance scene explicitly includes the word 'Romantic.' The only aspect that, in my opinion, is not platonic is the way they're sitting on the grass.

I will take everyone's feedback into account and make any necessary changes to the dialogue. However, for now, the available version still contains those lines, and if you select two of those lines, you will activate the romance flag. My next update will deactivate those flags.

GOW LIKE A BOSS wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2023, 14:43

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 18:54

BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 16:48

Hello - new user here.

@Crusaderknight20 , I would like a small clarification. If this NoMaleRomance mod is supposedly preventing guy-on-guy flirting, I don't get the part where you say

" For example, in the NoMaleRom version, we have reworked the narrator's lines to convey a platonic narrative. Players should carefully avoid choosing romance lines in certain scenes, like Gale's weave scene, which we have intentionally kept non-romantic"

So does this mean that there guy-on-guy flirt lines available for my Tav to say? And if I choose said lines, a romance with Male Tav / Gale will trigger? And if it does, exactly how is the mod preventing NoMaleRomance?

Hello, I'm currently working on fine-tuning it. I will change those lines to something else, but please note that Gale's reaction will remain the same. I have more freedom to change the narrator's dialogue. Another thing to consider is that Gale has the picnic scene, which can be interpreted as either platonic or romantic.

There are two versions of the scene labeled as 'Romantic' and 'Standard.' In comparison, Wyll's dance scene explicitly includes the word 'Romantic.' The only aspect that, in my opinion, is not platonic is the way they're sitting on the grass.

I will take everyone's feedback into account and make any necessary changes to the dialogue. However, for now, the available version still contains those lines, and if you select two of those lines, you will activate the romance flag. My next update will deactivate those flags.

Just wanted to say thank you for your work on this mod. I like Gale, and was enjoying the friendship my character was making with him then suddenly everything got weird and uncomfortable (for me and my character lol). The only mods I found before this board were ones that disabled friendship progression too, and I didn't want to have to block all friendship in order to also block romance. Thank you for your work on separating the two so male platonic friendships can be a thing in this game.

RK-9 wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 17:31

If you ever figure out a way to add NEW dialogue choices, you could probably just make one mod file instead of two for males and females.

Simply duplicate dialogue options and add tags to the end, similar to how some dialogue options have the [BALDURIAN] tag. Add tags '[FLIRT]' and '[FRIENDSHIP]'

For example, when a certain someone is sad that he can't see his own reflection in the mirror...
1. "I see a handsome face [FRIENDSHIP]"
2. "I see a handsome face [FLIRT]"

In cases where the dialogue cannot be duplicated because it wouldn't make much sense, simply include the [FLIRT] tag to the ones that lead to romance, so at least we know which ones do what.

Only the dialogue options with [FLIRT] would allow the progression of romance.

Additionally, this approach would mean you could romantically target only specific people. If you have a "males only" and "females" only mod, the issue still arises where ALL of the one gender wants you. While some people might like that, others would prefer a more monogamistic approach.

As I am writing this, I'm starting to realize just how difficult that might be to sift through all those dialogue options.... So maybe this is a pipe-dream.

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2023, 14:58

RK-9 wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 17:31

If you ever figure out a way to add NEW dialogue choices, you could probably just make one mod file instead of two for males and females.

Simply duplicate dialogue options and add tags to the end, similar to how some dialogue options have the [BALDURIAN] tag. Add tags '[FLIRT]' and '[FRIENDSHIP]'

For example, when a certain someone is sad that he can't see his own reflection in the mirror...
1. "I see a handsome face [FRIENDSHIP]"
2. "I see a handsome face [FLIRT]"

In cases where the dialogue cannot be duplicated because it wouldn't make much sense, simply include the [FLIRT] tag to the ones that lead to romance, so at least we know which ones do what.

Only the dialogue options with [FLIRT] would allow the progression of romance.

Additionally, this approach would mean you could romantically target only specific people. If you have a "males only" and "females" only mod, the issue still arises where ALL of the one gender wants you. While some people might like that, others would prefer a more monogamistic approach.

As I am writing this, I'm starting to realize just how difficult that might be to sift through all those dialogue options.... So maybe this is a pipe-dream.

As of today, I have successfully removed the lines. I will see if adding new lines is possible. Essentially, for male characters, those flirt options won't even appear. Unfortunately, my attempt to implement a tag option alongside the approval option didn’t work out. I will continue to experiment with this. However, I still need two separate mods because I have also changed the narrator's lines in specific scenes. Originally, these scenes were suggestive of intimacy when they were meant to be platonic. I recommend the approval tweaks mod, as it helps to slow down the characters' approval, ensuring they won't jump on you.

GOW LIKE A BOSS wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2023, 21:51

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2023, 14:58

RK-9 wrote: ↑ December 7th, 2023, 17:31

If you ever figure out a way to add NEW dialogue choices, you could probably just make one mod file instead of two for males and females.

Simply duplicate dialogue options and add tags to the end, similar to how some dialogue options have the [BALDURIAN] tag. Add tags '[FLIRT]' and '[FRIENDSHIP]'

For example, when a certain someone is sad that he can't see his own reflection in the mirror...
1. "I see a handsome face [FRIENDSHIP]"
2. "I see a handsome face [FLIRT]"

In cases where the dialogue cannot be duplicated because it wouldn't make much sense, simply include the [FLIRT] tag to the ones that lead to romance, so at least we know which ones do what.

Only the dialogue options with [FLIRT] would allow the progression of romance.

Additionally, this approach would mean you could romantically target only specific people. If you have a "males only" and "females" only mod, the issue still arises where ALL of the one gender wants you. While some people might like that, others would prefer a more monogamistic approach.

As I am writing this, I'm starting to realize just how difficult that might be to sift through all those dialogue options.... So maybe this is a pipe-dream.

As of today, I have successfully removed the lines. I will see if adding new lines is possible. Essentially, for male characters, those flirt options won't even appear. Unfortunately, my attempt to implement a tag option alongside the approval option didn’t work out. I will continue to experiment with this. However, I still need two separate mods because I have also changed the narrator's lines in specific scenes. Originally, these scenes were suggestive of intimacy when they were meant to be platonic. I recommend the approval tweaks mod, as it helps to slow down the characters' approval, ensuring they won't jump on you.

Can you link to which mod you're referring to on approval tweaks?

Or is this the one you're talking about (that I have linked below). Do that mod and yours have to be in a specific load order?

https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/ ... escription

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2023, 14:22

GOW LIKE A BOSS wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2023, 21:51

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2023, 14:58

As of today, I have successfully removed the lines. I will see if adding new lines is possible. Essentially, for male characters, those flirt options won't even appear. Unfortunately, my attempt to implement a tag option alongside the approval option didn’t work out. I will continue to experiment with this. However, I still need two separate mods because I have also changed the narrator's lines in specific scenes. Originally, these scenes were suggestive of intimacy when they were meant to be platonic. I recommend the approval tweaks mod, as it helps to slow down the characters' approval, ensuring they won't jump on you.

Can you link to which mod you're referring to on approval tweaks?

Or is this the one you're talking about (that I have linked below). Do that mod and yours have to be in a specific load order?

https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/ ... escription

Yes that's the one!
Here are some preview screenshots of the new update.

GOW LIKE A BOSS wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2023, 20:38

what the lines were before for contrast

Tipfy wrote: ↑ December 13th, 2023, 09:26

GOW LIKE A BOSS wrote: ↑ December 12th, 2023, 20:38

what the lines were before for contrast

I don't have the exact quote, but simply replace camaraderie and friendship with intimacy.

Crusaderknight20 wrote: ↑ December 11th, 2023, 14:58

As of today, I have successfully removed the lines. I will see if adding new lines is possible. Essentially, for male characters, those flirt options won't even appear. Unfortunately, my attempt to implement a tag option alongside the approval option didn’t work out. I will continue to experiment with this. However, I still need two separate mods because I have also changed the narrator's lines in specific scenes. Originally, these scenes were suggestive of intimacy when they were meant to be platonic. I recommend the approval tweaks mod, as it helps to slow down the characters' approval, ensuring they won't jump on you.