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Oyster Sauce wrote: November 19th, 2023, 16:15
I don't have a leveling group
:notsureif: you have to log in to get a group, bucko. I told you I'd make an alt to level with you.
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The whole reason we want bros is so we can group.
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Tweed wrote: November 20th, 2023, 05:16
The whole reason we want bros is so we can groom.
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Well I saw Oyster online, but Kal had already logged off and I was heading that way too.
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Tweed wrote: November 19th, 2023, 12:43
Oyster Sauce wrote: November 17th, 2023, 00:37
What classes do you want/not want?
fulgrim456 wrote: November 18th, 2023, 02:05
I ended up making a warrior. Completely lost as to what to do in the early game, though.
Where you guys at? Saw Oyster once and that was it.
I'll be around more this week, been rough with work.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 22nd, 2023, 07:44
Expecting a rollback, a plat dupe bug is being abused.
If you share your botting wealth with me, ill play the game
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Never seen an MMO developer behave like this before.

Shroud of the Avatar has like 15 players and they did a month-long rollback because of duping. EQ is one of EG7's top earners and they just shrug when trillions of plat + millions of every tradeskill item gets injected into every server simultaneously. The only place you can find a comment from a developer — stating nothing will be done — is in fucking discord, complete silence on their site/forum. If you complain on the forum, it gets deleted.

Half-tempted to write a long letter to EG7.
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Fuck.
Someone really needs to leak EQ's client+server+database like they did with SWG. I can't believe EQ is being held hostage by these incompetents.
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I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
After roughly 3 hours, it did indeed get approved if you want to leave an additional message or something.
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/ind ... st-4262815

The complete lack of response is stunning.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
It's a good post, but hacks happen. EQ is a very legacy/niche/antiquated product. There's far more pressure on the exploit end than there is vigilance on the maintenance end.
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Post by Rand »

Welp, I was on the fence and now I'm glad I didn't do squat.

Why cheat in a retro server? I don't get it.
But I've never really played an MMO, so maybe I can't get it.
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Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:47
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
It's a good post, but hacks happen. EQ is a very legacy/niche/antiquated product. There's far more pressure on the exploit end than there is vigilance on the maintenance end.
But there's no excuse for not rolling the servers back.
Progress earned can be returned via bonuses, you can't undo what the exploits did to every server.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:52
Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:47
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
It's a good post, but hacks happen. EQ is a very legacy/niche/antiquated product. There's far more pressure on the exploit end than there is vigilance on the maintenance end.
But there's no excuse for not rolling the servers back.
Progress earned can be returned via bonuses, you can't undo what the exploits did to every server.
Assumes they have the ability and resources, which they might. There may be some delay in a policy decision like this.
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Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:57
Assumes they have the ability and resources, which they might. There may be some delay in a policy decision like this.
I at least assume they have the ability to turn the fucking servers off after it's being widely exploited rather than leaving them on for another 20 hours.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:58
Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:57
Assumes they have the ability and resources, which they might. There may be some delay in a policy decision like this.
I at least assume they have the ability to turn the fucking servers off after it's being widely exploited rather than leaving them on for another 20 hours.
If it were me I would not roll back until I understood how the exploit happened, which may require leaving things as is for now.
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Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:59
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:58
Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:57
Assumes they have the ability and resources, which they might. There may be some delay in a policy decision like this.
I at least assume they have the ability to turn the fucking servers off after it's being widely exploited rather than leaving them on for another 20 hours.
If it were me I would not roll back until I understood how the exploit happened, which may require leaving things as is for now.
All you had to do to trigger it was craft while using your tradeskill depot(bank for tradeskill materials). Meaning it was widely used by large amounts of the playerbase.

To be clear, this is most likely the worst mass exploit I've ever seen in all my time playing MMOs.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
Wait, this cost money, somehow?
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Rand wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 04:28
Wait, this cost money, somehow?
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wtf am I missing here?
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Rand wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 04:34
Rand wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 04:28
Wait, this cost money, somehow?
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wtf am I missing here?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 04:35
Rand wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 04:34
Rand wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 04:28
Wait, this cost money, somehow?
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wtf am I missing here?
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Holy fuck!
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Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:59
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:58
Gregz wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:57
Assumes they have the ability and resources, which they might. There may be some delay in a policy decision like this.
I at least assume they have the ability to turn the fucking servers off after it's being widely exploited rather than leaving them on for another 20 hours.
If it were me I would not roll back until I understood how the exploit happened, which may require leaving things as is for now.
I'm assuming, (assuming mind you) that there are flags in place that go off if someone suddenly gets a whole bunch of money or resources for this kind of problem. UO had them.
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Just so everyone understands and maybe making @Kalarion a little less angry at me:
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Oakwynd specifically needs a roll back or they need to cut and run and start a new TLP. At the same time they should find a more organic way to sink that extra plat into something useful. As I recall the jackpot in EQ2 started as a way to deal with a plat dupe.
Right now a few items are at reasonable prices and everything else is literally unobtainable by anyone who didn't get a piece of the action. As for people who have piles of plat AND trade mats, they have the power to control the entire tradeskill market as they see fit.

I'm surprised at how many retards I'm seeing saying this is somehow a non issue for a TLP server and "lol just buy krono bro." and you can't tell me the DPG doesn't salivate at the idea of a krono driven economy.
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Quarm chads keep winning. Even a random internet tranny is better at running an EQ server than Daybreak.
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Still quite pissed over this, sending emails to every video game media outlet I can find.
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Damn, and I was looking forward to seeing how group content shook out.
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