No Alphabets 2.2 — Baldur's Gate 3

[Tamyn]

Thank you for getting back to me. Here are all the mods I have in the AppData\Local\Larian Studios\Baldur's Gate 3\Mods folder. I have no other voice mods as I haven't been using any mods. I downloaded and installed the script extender, I checked the game path settings in the mod manager and made sure to hit refresh, save, and export. I even tried launching the game from the mod manager. The other mods all work.

[WaterMage]

If someone must buy Baizuo's GAte 3, by the love of Mystra. Buy it in Argentine pesos!!!

[orinEsque]

Thank you for getting back to me. Here are all the mods I have in the AppData\Local\Larian Studios\Baldur's Gate 3\Mods folder. I have no other voice mods as I haven't been using any mods. I downloaded and installed the script extender, I checked the game path settings in the mod manager and made sure to hit refresh, save, and export. I even tried launching the game from the mod manager. The other mods all work.

Hmm, this is becoming a bit of a head scratcher.
1. There could be some kind of clash with unique IDs, I've created a new unique ID for the mod, increased the default load order and reuploaded. Download this zip. It works on my game.(Patch 4)
2. Did you ever drop any loose mods in the bg3 Data folder?
3. Try installing mod fixer and see if that helps
4. There is a final option. Uninstall BG3MM. Extract all the packs and drop them manually in the AppData mods folder

[Calumininium]

Thank you so much for this mod! You made me want to play the game again. Usually I kill Isobel and either kill Aylin or sell her to Lorroakan (I can't stand her) because I don't want to hear a word about their degeneracy but with your mod I might let them live for once.
I have a problem getting the NoAlphabetsVoice.pak to work though. I used Mod Manager and installed the script extender but Lunkbug's voice still says "husband" while his text says "healer" and Sebastienne still has a male voice. I tried making the voice.pak top priority in the load order but it didn't seem to make a difference.

When I first imported the voice pak to Mod Manager it put it in a bottom category called "Override" but I right clicked the voice pak to "allow in load order" so it should be working.

Maybe it's better to let it in Override no ? I'm not sure but it seems OrinEsque setup shows Voices.pak in override

[orinEsque]

Checked some voice mods on nexus consensus is to leave it at the bottom without adding to load order.

[Rand]

If someone must buy Baizuo's GAte 3, by the love of Mystra. Buy it in Argentine pesos!!!

Valve is shutting that shit down hard.
American dollars by region, now.

[Rand]

Ed Greenwood.

Would you trust this man with your gamesetting and lore?

[SoLong]

orinEsque, I have to genuinely congratulate you. Your work is amazing and I genuinely can't tell that Sebastienne was put in via mod.

This is great! I'll wait until you're done, reinstall the game and install your patch. Then do a completely new run.

It's going to be so nice to no longer have my immersion slapped back down to reality every five fucking minutes in act 3.

Halsin is straight-up disgusting. Astarion is likeable enough, thanks to his voice actor, but I'm straight-up shocked they didn't make him a bard (because all bards are gay AF anyway).
(Even Shakespeare wrote love sonnets about a guy, ffs...)

I'm reasonably certain Halsin's infamous bear scene was put in just for the shock value alone (sales figures seem to back that up). I actually like the character and am sad about the unrealized potential.

Agreed on Astarion. Five sentences out of that man's mouth and the game had me convinced he'd be reasonably interested in both guys and gals (both because he has the slightly foppish personality and because he's a vampire). He really would be better as a bard but I admit it wouldn't gel as well with his backstory. It's pretty bleak and I don't think it would be productive for anything artistic save depressing poetry.

Also: As hypocritical as it may be coming from me I hate how the current climate in game design makes friendships between men so incredibly hard to write because the fucking infestation of weird fangirls will immediately call them gay. And the spineless developers will cater to that because the brainless company leadership smells money.

It's even more insane because there are places in this fucking game where assorted flavours of perversion are appropriate: The brothel, the circus, the criminal underbelly of the city, literal hell or in a group of people who are already social outcasts (pick any in the game).

But no, they have to cram them fucking everywhere and now I have this obnoxiously loud butch powerlesbian oversharing her bedroom activities. I wouldn't even have minded if they have similar interactions like Alfira and Lakrissa because these two are ambiguous. (And Alfira is a bard, who are know to hump anything with a pulse and some things without one.)

There isn't even a way in-game that allows you to get rid of her without horrible consequences for someone I actually like!

[Oyster Sauce]

Has any multiplayer testing been done?

[WaterMage]

Anyone knows how I put mods in Linux?

[orinEsque]

orinEsque, I have to genuinely congratulate you. Your work is amazing and I genuinely can't tell that Sebastienne was put in via mod.

This is great! I'll wait until you're done, reinstall the game and install your patch. Then do a completely new run.

It's going to be so nice to no longer have my immersion slapped back down to reality every five fucking minutes in act 3.

Thanks! A lot of work went into this and I appreciate you taking the time to give me your feedback . For those who are interested this is how a character alteration works:
For example for Sebastienne's voice:

• I used Aylin (similar accent). Had to go listening to her voice lines to find screams and emotional dialogue, along with her standard lines. Then train Aylin's voice model with the lines I gathered. Run Sebastian's lines through the AI. Record bits that needed changing. Run recording through the AI. Edit them into the Aylin version of the original to make sure the timing matches up. (Listen to this - took me a literal minute to do)
• Finding all the lines that mention Sebastian in the loca file. Then recording over those. So training Astarion and Narrator's model again. (This will be useful for later for Ser Aylin). I've got voice models for Astarion, Shadowheart, Aylin, male guardian, and a lot of others.
• Changing all the text in the loca file (I do this programmatically) so I just push a button when a new patch comes, to keep things up to date.
• Changing the looks. Just a tedious look up of female version of everything he is wearing. [same reason I don't wanna mod BetterAesthetics]
• Play test to find stuff I missed and repeating some of above.

P.S. I am tempted to revert Sauceman Chorizo back to being gay. Him being a brothel cook, his sausage of a name... Sven really went for a good ol' dad joke there. But I've done it already so not gonna reverse it now.

Has any multiplayer testing been done?

There isn't a multiplayer vs singleplayer division. NoAlphabets overrides all your local files related to the shitty characters. So I'm expecting either one of these to happen if you have the mod and your friend doesn't:

1. The game will complain about mismatching files (like in older games)
2. You will see the modded characters. But your friends won't unless they have my mod.

Someone let me know how their multiplayer session goes.

Anyone knows how I put mods in Linux?

According to this reddit post , you should unzip the files > drop the .pak files in Steam/steamapps/common/Baldur's Gate 3/Mods

Let me know if you find a solution. I'll add it to the installation instructions.

[gunbino]

• I used Aylin (similar accent). Had to go listening to her voice lines to find screams and emotional dialogue, along with her standard lines. Then train Aylin's voice model with the lines I gathered. Run Sebastian's lines through the AI. Record bits that needed changing. Run recording through the AI. Edit them into the Aylin version of the original to make sure the timing matches up. (Listen to this - took me a literal minute to do)
• Finding all the lines that mention Sebastian in the loca file. Then recording over those. So training Astarion and Narrator's model again. (This will be useful for later for Ser Aylin). I've got voice models for Astarion, Shadowheart, Aylin, male guardian, and a lot of others.

Curious how much of these two steps you've automated. I'd assume some of this has to be manual due to the varied vocalizations of the actors.

[orinEsque]

Finding all lines that say "Sebastian" for example is automatic. I do a pattern match with code. But finding emotional voice lines, and recording my own voice to match the original is manual. Imagine saying "Ser" like 10 times to get the accent just right. Or clear enough for the AI to not turn it into garble. Also have to manually use audacity to edit the audios to make sure the volume and timings are same.

[gunbino]

Finding all lines that say "Sebastian" for example is automatic. I do a pattern match with code. But finding emotional voice lines, and recording my own voice to match the original is manual. Imagine saying "Ser" like 10 times to get the accent just right. Or clear enough for the AI to not turn it into garble. Also have to manually use audacity to edit the audios to make sure the volume and timings are same.

I don't think enough credit is given to you for how much work you're putting in. Hopefully more people who have been holding off on buying the game will come across this mod.

[Crusaderknight20]

Thank you, OrinEsque! Honestly, I was actually focusing on Dame Aylin and trying to change her gender. I noticed that there was a male version of Nightsong in the game files. However, the original character had a regular body type, instead of a Large Male body type. I also was lazy when I did the voice for Dame Aylin using AI, and I used Geralt's voice, and the results weren't pretty. But then, I saw your post about recording your own lines, and that made sense.

I did a couple of tests with Dame Aylin's character model, and I noticed that I can't seem to get the hair in the right place. For example, I noticed that Nightsong has so many different character models for different scenes. One for the prison scene, and one without the helmet and one with the helmet. So far, my two issues are just the hair, and the prison outfit. The prison outfit looks normal, only if I make the character model in that one into a regular body male. But, if I tried to make it a Large Male body type, the fingers look horrific, and the hair is stuck by his chin. I would love to help and assist you despite of my lack of skills, but can you also teach me as well?

[rusty_shackleford]

I noticed that there was a male version of Nightsong in the game files.

Not surprised in the least, the character is written entirely like a male and acts like a male.

[Crusaderknight20]

I noticed that there was a male version of Nightsong in the game files.

Not surprised in the least, the character is written entirely like a male and acts like a male.

Yes, I really noticed it as well. It might have been a last-minute change, or perhaps that was the reason for the delays. I'm not sure if it was because of Larian being Larian or because of WOTC. Either way, I won't buy early access again, that's for sure.

This is the original image icon btw.

[Tamyn]

I deleted all the mods and reinstalled them and now the voice pak works!

It's sad that Nightsong was originally a man and they got rid of him. "She" still acts completely like a man, agreed.

[orinEsque]

I deleted all the mods and reinstalled them and now the voice pak works!

It's sad that Nightsong was originally a man and they got rid of him. "She" still acts completely like a man, agreed.

The magical turn it off and on again did the trick. Great to know you fixed that

This is the original image icon btw.

Oh my god! Are you serious!? ALL of it makes sense now! These bitches on reddit wanted games aimed at women and then they turn the only knights in shining armour into a annoying Brie Larson and a tentacle monster!!!! AAAAAAAAAARGH! It's so anti straight women. I hate it!

Thank you, OrinEsque! Honestly, I was actually focusing on Dame Aylin and trying to change her gender. I noticed that there was a male version of Nightsong in the game files. However, the original character had a regular body type, instead of a Large Male body type. I also was lazy when I did the voice for Dame Aylin using AI, and I used Geralt's voice, and the results weren't pretty. But then, I saw your post about recording your own lines, and that made sense.

I did a couple of tests with Dame Aylin's character model, and I noticed that I can't seem to get the hair in the right place. For example, I noticed that Nightsong has so many different character models for different scenes. One for the prison scene, and one without the helmet and one with the helmet. So far, my two issues are just the hair, and the prison outfit. The prison outfit looks normal, only if I make the character model in that one into a regular body male. But, if I tried to make it a Large Male body type, the fingers look horrific, and the hair is stuck by his chin. I would love to help and assist you despite of my lack of skills, but can you also teach me as well?

Good to see someone who also uses AI. Here is the breakdown of all the lines that need changing. I've started working on Aylin already. I could use help with creating models for each of these other characters (I already created the Narrator, Astarion, Shadowheart, Aylin, and male guardian).

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Part of me is picky and would prefer doing the recordings myself, BUT if you are able I'd welcome someone else helping me out with some of the 144 lines that need recording and running through the AI. Here are all the lines, their voice ids, handles and which character it belongs to.
https://f.rpghq.org/OnkihLFBLH3i.csv?n=aylin.csv

[SoLong]

I noticed that there was a male version of Nightsong in the game files.

Not surprised in the least, the character is written entirely like a male and acts like a male.

Yes, I really noticed it as well. It might have been a last-minute change, or perhaps that was the reason for the delays. I'm not sure if it was because of Larian being Larian or because of WOTC. Either way, I won't buy early access again, that's for sure.

This is the original image icon btw.

Oh fuck are you serious. I thought this was just the strong independent lesbian womble bla-bla that usually seems to bubble up in these companies but they originally had the knight in shining armor archetype?

Why the fuck did they change that? That was literally snatching defeat from the jaws of victory! Did Mages Of The Bog mandate one more plot relevant gay couple or something?

If that was the case you could've just rewritten a few lines for Gortash and Durge. Or was that another mandate, this many LGBTWTFBBQLOL must be good^TM people? Why did you have to ruin the angel? Or aasimar, whatever? (Aylin's totally an angel, aasimar don't look like that but fuck canon race design I guess.)

[rusty_shackleford]

Felt like the moment the game started to go down hill was when you encounter ""her"" tbh.

[Crusaderknight20]

Good to see someone who also uses AI. Here is the breakdown of all the lines that need changing. I've started working on Aylin already. I could use help with creating models for each of these other characters (I already created the Narrator, Astarion, Shadowheart, Aylin, and male guardian).

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Part of me is picky and would prefer doing the recordings myself, BUT if you are able I'd welcome someone else helping me out with some of the 144 lines that need recording and running through the AI. Here are all the lines, their voice ids, handles and which character it belongs to.
https://f.rpghq.org/OnkihLFBLH3i.csv?n=aylin.csv

Thank you, and I downloaded the excel file. But, when I looked at the data it was a bit different with how I did it. I used LSLIB toolkit and extracted the voice pak, from there I was able to find the voice lines using modder's multitool, so do you want me to send you all of them in a wem format once I'm done with the lines?

PS Here's an example of what happens when I don't re-do my own lines and end up using Geralt to re-do her lines as is http://www.sndup.net/pdfw

[SoLong]

Felt like the moment the game started to go down hill was when you encounter ""her"" tbh.

Fuck, you have a point. It lines up perfectly.

[La_m3r]

Felt like the moment the game started to go down hill was when you encounter ""her"" tbh.

She's also a fucking moron who fails all her wisdom saves. She's 0 help in defeating Ketheric, Apostle of Myrkul, and Lorroakan. Minsc appears to be considerably more thoughtful and perceptive than her dumbass.

[orinEsque]

Thank you, and I downloaded the excel file. But, when I looked at the data it was a bit different with how I did it. I used LSLIB toolkit and extracted the voice pak, from there I was able to find the voice lines using modder's multitool, so do you want me to send you all of them in a wem format once I'm done with the lines?

I used Lslib to toolkit to extract Voice.pak and English.pak. english.loca gives you the text for the lines. I did some data wrangling in R to mine every line that had "daughter of moonmaiden/Selune", "Dame Aylin", or {NightSong + she's/she/her/hers/herself} in the loca. Pulled out the handle, then did a pattern match for files in the extracted Voice folder. If you have trouble extracting them I can compress it and send it to you.

Some notes I have for voice training:
1. Pick out about a 100 lines (with no echo) (less for those that only need one or two lines changing). If the line that needs changing has laughing/crying/pain in it, train some laughing/crying/pain voice lines from that character or someone of the same gender.
(The python script from this tool: https://github.com/StableFluffy/bg3-ai-voicetoolkit can help you extract every line from a a specific character using their voiceid from my table, you just have to add it to the bg3-ai-voicetoolkit-main\lib\voice_selector.py file using text editor)

2. Trim out all the silence with audacity (you can dump them all in Audacity in one go) > Select All > Effect > Special > Truncate silence > use the below settings > Apply > Export Audio as "Multiple Files". (Make sure you save to a different directory, because audacity adds a copy and doesn't overwrite)

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3. Train using _Mangio-RVC-v23.7.0 (https://github.com/Mangio621/Mangio-RVC-Fork/releases). You want to get the "INSTALL_Mangio-RVC-v23.7.0_INFER_TRAIN.bat"
4. Drop your trimmed audio files in a folder under datasets e.g. Mangio-RVC-v23.7.0/datasets/astarion
5. For training I keep all settings as default except I set version to v2, and change epoch to 150 to 500.

PS Here's an example of what happens when I don't re-do my own lines and end up using Geralt to re-do her lines as is http://www.sndup.net/pdfw

Sounds like you need to just decrease the pitch there actually.

Also .wav files please . If you can tell me which ones you are going to do, that'd be great. Wouldn't want to end up doing the same lines.

[orinEsque]

Oops uploaded the wrong csv @Crusaderknight20 The one i intended have voice id as well as handles. Here's the one with Character name + voice ID
https://f.rpghq.org/GJEear5gfCLC.csv?n= ... ails_2.csv


EDIT: you need to train for about 150 Epochs at least with 100 voice lines for good results i went for 500 epochs for male guardian.

[Rand]

These bitches on reddit wanted games aimed at women and then they turn the only knights in shining armour into a annoying butch lesbian and a tentacle monster!!!! AAAAAAAAAARGH! It's so anti straight women. I fucking hate it!

It's anti straight. Anti-male. Anti-reason.
It's gross.

[Crusaderknight20]

Oops uploaded the wrong csv. The one i intended have voice id as well as handles. Here's the one with Character name + voice ID
https://f.rpghq.org/GJEear5gfCLC.csv?n= ... ails_2.csv


EDIT: you need to train for about 150 Epochs at least with 100 voice lines for good results i went for 500 epochs for male guardian.

No worries, I'm aiming to finish the recordings by Saturday at the latest, but I'm really aiming for tomorrow. I'm focusing on getting Dame Aylin's lines done, so hopefully, I'll be able to finish quickly with the right quality. In addition, do you want to use the Guardian voice? And should we change the name as well for Dame Aylin?

I looked into it, and "Dame" is what you call a female knight. "Aylin" is a feminine Turkish name meaning "moonlight" or "halo around the moon." So, for a guy, it'd be "Sir Aydin."

[FloSharChosen]

Oops uploaded the wrong csv. The one i intended have voice id as well as handles. Here's the one with Character name + voice ID
https://f.rpghq.org/GJEear5gfCLC.csv?n= ... ails_2.csv


EDIT: you need to train for about 150 Epochs at least with 100 voice lines for good results i went for 500 epochs for male guardian.

No worries, I'm aiming to finish the recordings by Saturday at the latest, but I'm really aiming for tomorrow. I'm focusing on getting Dame Aylin's lines done, so hopefully, I'll be able to finish quickly with the right quality. In addition, do you want to use the Guardian voice? And should we change the name as well for Dame Aylin?

I looked into it, and "Dame" is what you call a female knight. "Aylin" is a feminine Turkish name meaning "moonlight" or "halo around the moon." So, for a guy, it'd be "Sir Aydin."

The etymology of the name is important, but I think what counts here is usage, and we're used to Aylin. But that's just my opinion and I totally respect the concern for accuracy.

[orinEsque]

Oops uploaded the wrong csv. The one i intended have voice id as well as handles. Here's the one with Character name + voice ID
https://f.rpghq.org/GJEear5gfCLC.csv?n= ... ails_2.csv


EDIT: you need to train for about 150 Epochs at least with 100 voice lines for good results i went for 500 epochs for male guardian.

No worries, I'm aiming to finish the recordings by Saturday at the latest, but I'm really aiming for tomorrow. I'm focusing on getting Dame Aylin's lines done, so hopefully, I'll be able to finish quickly with the right quality. In addition, do you want to use the Guardian voice? And should we change the name as well for Dame Aylin?

I looked into it, and "Dame" is what you call a female knight. "Aylin" is a feminine Turkish name meaning "moonlight" or "halo around the moon." So, for a guy, it'd be "Sir Aydin."

Aydin sounds good but that means a WHOLE lot more lines to edit. In some cultures, such as Azerbaijan, Aylin is used as a male name as well. I think ser aylin would be fine and reduce our workload.

Yes i think male guardian is a good alternative to Aylin because he sounds just as paladin ish as Aylin. I've already done 7 or so off her 32 lines that need actual words to be swapped. I can do the rest. Would be good if you can focus on the others.

Btw don't record over regular lines where no text needs changing like the one you linked because all you need to do is lower pitch in the AI for it to work unless a specific word is poorly misinterpreted by the Ai. For example it's pointless for me to rerecord whole lines because I'm just as high pitched as aylin.

I usually just record the portion where it says Dame Aylin, her, she etc, it also helps maintain the original intonation as best as possible.


P.s. Aylin's lines in the csv are only the ones where we need to do manual editing there are 100s more that need putting through the ai that only need a F to M conversion. You can help with this but i think we need to get his pitch aligned or yours and mine may sound different.