Cyberpunk 2077 - Trans-Phantom Liberty

[Roguey]

What was wrong with Cyberpunk at launch? What is this narrative? It was a high budget GTA with Keanu. Exactly as advertised.

Is this zeitgeist because it ran poorly on the PS2?

Buggy Eurojank that wasn't polished at all, cops teleporting behind you, robotic npc behavior.

[J1M]

What was wrong with Cyberpunk at launch? What is this narrative? It was a high budget GTA with Keanu. Exactly as advertised.

Is this zeitgeist because it ran poorly on the PS2?

Buggy Eurojank that wasn't polished at all, cops teleporting behind you, robotic npc behavior.

Worked fine on a real PC. Why wouldn't cops have cyberwear upgrades?

[Oyster Sauce]

What was wrong with Cyberpunk at launch? What is this narrative? It was a high budget GTA with Keanu. Exactly as advertised.

Is this zeitgeist because it ran poorly on the PS2?

Buggy Eurojank that wasn't polished at all, cops teleporting behind you, robotic npc behavior.

Worked fine on a real PC. Why wouldn't cops have cyberwear upgrades?

Damn, outing yourself as someone who can't recognize a buggy half-baked piece of shit.

[gerey]

I'm still upset this thread isn't called Phantom Identity, what with the game being so focused on troons.

[maidenhaver]

Punk is just short for cucksucker, so its in the title.

[Shillitron]

Exactly as advertised.

Nice head larp. How many złoty did Marcin slip you for that post?

[J1M]

Exactly as advertised.

Nice head larp. How many złoty did Marcin slip you for that post?

What did you think they were promising?

[rusty_shackleford]

Exactly as advertised.

Nice head larp. How many złoty did Marcin slip you for that post?

What did you think they were promising?

[J1M]

I didn't pay a lot of attention to the marketing. Didn't all of those scenes also play out in your game at launch?

[Shillitron]

I didn't pay a lot of attention to the marketing. Didn't all of those scenes also play out in your game at launch?

> THEY DELIVERED EVEYTHING THEY PROMISED GUYS!!
> No They Didn't..
> OH YEA? SHOW PROOF!
> :posts proof:
> WELL PFFFFT.. I never watched any of that stuff anyways..

Stop being a retard J1M

[gerey]

What did you think they were promising?

The game that got released had almost nothing to do with the initial pitch. Find the list of things CDPR had promised and compare it to the game that eventually got released. And I'm not talking about the 2018 demo, I'm talking about what they said about the game around the time the Witcher 3 launched.

Then there's the deceptive marketing, especially the 6-month montage, the trailers were cut to make it appear like you could do all those activities in the game, only for people to discover it was just a short cutscene. And no, it clearly wasn't always meant to be a cutscene, many of those locations can be found in the game, fully modeled and with props, so it's obvious that they were meant to be visited by the player.

There's also the blatant lies about the game performance. CDPR deliberately didn't drive around fast when showcasing the last-gen builds because they knew it would become obvious the kind of shitshow the game was.

Also, the Dialo-esque item system, the overabundance of cosmetic items (that V can't even be seen wearing since the whole game is first-person) indicate that the plan was always to use the single-player game as a jumping-off point for a multiplayer looter-shooter, only for CDPR to be forced to drop the plans as the whole of gaming shat on them.

People have already mentioned it before, but the game was so fucking shit, and CDPR had lied so brazenly about its performance to other companies, that Sony delisted the game from their store.

What we are witnessing now is just how easily history can be rewritten, plenty of gullible morons ready to parrot that "Cyberpunk 2077 was always a good game." Kinda makes you think what other historical event could have been misinterpreted and lied about when the reception of a game at launch can be completely warped not even 5 years after the event.

[Shillitron]

What we are witnessing now is just how easily history can be rewritten

This is the most insidious part.

The narrative is slowly shifting to "It was buggy at launch but now it's GOTY" when the reality is "It was an empty skeleton of a game with 70% of promises not delivered at launch and the final DLC added working police.. sorta".

This game would take another 8 years of development time to even get close to what they were stating in their marketing material.

[J1M]

What did you think they were promising?

The game that got released had almost nothing to do with the initial pitch. Find the list of things CDPR had promised and compare it to the game that eventually got released. And I'm not talking about the 2018 demo, I'm talking about what they said about the game around the time the Witcher 3 launched.

Then there's the deceptive marketing, especially the 6-month montage, the trailers were cut to make it appear like you could do all those activities in the game, only for people to discover it was just a short cutscene. And no, it clearly wasn't always meant to be a cutscene, many of those locations can be found in the game, fully modeled and with props, so it's obvious that they were meant to be visited by the player.

There's also the blatant lies about the game performance. CDPR deliberately didn't drive around fast when showcasing the last-gen builds because they knew it would become obvious the kind of shitshow the game was.

Also, the Dialo-esque item system, the overabundance of cosmetic items (that V can't even be seen wearing since the whole game is first-person) indicate that the plan was always to use the single-player game as a jumping-off point for a multiplayer looter-shooter, only for CDPR to be forced to drop the plans as the whole of gaming shat on them.

People have already mentioned it before, but the game was so fucking shit, and CDPR had lied so brazenly about its performance to other companies, that Sony delisted the game from their store.

What we are witnessing now is just how easily history can be rewritten, plenty of gullible morons ready to parrot that "Cyberpunk 2077 was always a good game." Kinda makes you think what other historical event could have been misinterpreted and lied about when the reception of a game at launch can be completely warped not even 5 years after the event.

Thanks for explaining it. As someone who didn't attend Witchercon or read about the game while it was in development, they delivered what I was expecting from seeing the trailers: GTA 2077.

There's no revisionism here. I liked the game at launch, but I have no interest in the expansion. I have a high end PC and assumed that's why I didn't encounter most of what people were complaining about in terms of bugs. My biggest complaint was actually the visual clutter. Every room seemed full of garbage and pointless items.

I sympathize now that I understand where you are coming from. Do you feel they "fixed" the game with patches since? Or is that more deceptive marketing? (Seems like all they did was shuffle the skill tree?)

[gerey]

they delivered what I was expecting from seeing the trailers: GTA 2077

It's not really GTA. I mean, on a basic level it is, you can drive around the city, steal cars, shoot pedestrians etc.

For all the shit I give Rockstar, even I have to admit their sandbox is much more technically impressive than anything else on the market, and 2077 doesn't even come close to it. There's simply not enough interactivity/reactivity to make the city feel alive, or for emergent gameplay to happen.

At best Night City is like Lost Heaven in Mafia 1, a pretty backdrop (though, even the city of Mafia 1 was far more reactive than Night City).

Do you feel they "fixed" the game with patches since? Or is that more deceptive marketing? (Seems like all they did was shuffle the skill tree?)

Yes and no. They've obviously invested a lot of money, time and resources into fixing the game, but the game itself is flawed on a fundamental level.

It's not deceptive marketing - they did introduce a (semi) functional police system, car combat, they've overhauled many of the progression mechanics, itemization, rebalanced the game etc. It still feels too little, too late. Most of the game is pointless padding.

[rusty_shackleford]

The problem is they spent >$500 million dollars on an, at best, mediocre game.

Witcher 2's development cost was something like $10 million.

[Shillitron]

The final mission was literally just sitting down while a black guy told me how horrible I was and all I could do was apologize.

LMFAO

Never did run into the troon from the OP though.

Bruh it's Songbird.. they literally start the DLC for you.

[maidenhaver]

There should be a law against making games that'll cost over 10 million, until devs can make good games again.

[Oyster Sauce]

Bruh it's Songbird.. they literally start the DLC for you.

What? No. Not sure why you think that.

[Shillitron]

Bruh it's Songbird.. they literally start the DLC for you.

What? No. Not sure why you think that.

[Oyster Sauce]

Bruh it's Songbird.. they literally start the DLC for you.

What? No. Not sure why you think that.

You fucking with me or have you just not played it?
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Stella_Ramos troon
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Song_So_Mi Songbird

[Shillitron]

You fucking with me or have you just not played it?
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Stella_Ramos troon
https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Song_So_Mi Songbird

No.. I am actually that retarded.
I haven't played the DLC yet (Beyond the phone call you get) and I really thought it was Songbird.

[rusty_shackleford]

arr rook same
even the ladyboys

[rusty_shackleford]

*click wiki link*
*google actor's name*

ofc he did porn

[SoLong]

*click wiki link*
*google actor's name*

ofc he did porn

You know, this is what I don't get.

How did all these sex pests get into the gaming industry? I can understand gay men and women getting in (if you have to have your gay romance for some reason you should probably hire someone who can write it) but why are there so many trannies and fucking porn actors? Did they give out free BJs during the job interview or something?

This reminds me of the whole Mass Effect: Panderomeda debacle. The fucking tranny who shoves his trans-dom right into your face so there's no way you can miss it. Also we can't forget that they added more gay romance via patch because what was there was blatantly god-awful even by the standards of modern game design.

Which honestly confused me even more. Bioware had its lefty politics and "diverse" romance sidequests front and center for goddamn decades. They had to know what their customers expected right? Did the pandering not pay enough and they tried to roll it back?

Same with Cyberpunk 2077. A technical mess but unfortunately people swallowed that half-done slop regardless. I think their sales are somwhere between 20 and 30 million units at the moment. It's depressing.

[gerey]

if you have to have your gay romance for some reason you should probably hire someone who can write it

Fags and women cannot write romance though.

but why are there so many trannies and fucking porn actors

I think this is mostly a CDPR thing, not an industry thing. They're the only ones, far as I am aware, that went out of their way to hire a porn actress like Sasha Grey, or court troon influencers. Closest analogue would be Kojima trying to cram in as many Hollywood actors into his games as possible, but even that has a veneer of respectability and clout to it.

CDPR seems to be going down the same path BioWare has, but at a much steeper angle.

[Element]

Cramming in actors isn't new, it just became more frequent when the budgets started going north of $100m consistently

[Shillitron]

Cramming in actors isn't new, it just became more frequent when the budgets started going north of $100m consistently

I remember CDPR releasing this - (way before the game released and we all knew what a turd it was)

And even back then.. before everything went to shit.. I found myself thinking "This feels like an excuse for a buncha CDPR employee's to go to a race track and fuck around with some high end cars" - Isn't there Stock audio libraries for every car under the sun already that they can license royalty free??

It's shit like this that they started doing after getting Witcher 3 money. They definitely didn't go rent out a medieval fair festival for Witcher 1. Even for Diablo 4, Blizzard's audio recording was a fat guy outside with a stick whipping it through the air.

[Element]

Cramming in actors isn't new, it just became more frequent when the budgets started going north of $100m consistently

I remember CDPR releasing this - (way before the game released and we all knew what a turd it was)

And even back then.. before everything went to shit.. I found myself thinking "This feels like an excuse for a buncha CDPR employee's to go to a race track and fuck around with some high end cars" - Isn't there Stock audio libraries for every car under the sun already that they can license royalty free??

It's shit like this that they started doing after getting Witcher 3 money. They definitely didn't go rent out a medieval fair festival for Witcher 1. Even for Diablo 4, Blizzard's audio recording was a fat guy outside with a stick whipping it through the air.

Most modern games could probably be made with a fraction of the budget, if that budget was wisely spent. Of course marketing is now half the budget, but even here I don't think in an era of ubiquitous youtube reviews and twitch streams that cutting a few $m here and there would crater sales.

[HumilityFan]

I think this is mostly a CDPR thing, not an industry thing. They're the only ones, far as I am aware, that went out of their way to hire a porn actress like Sasha Grey, or court troon influencers. Closest analogue would be Kojima trying to cram in as many Hollywood actors into his games as possible, but even that has a veneer of respectability and clout to it.

They were probably going for Saint Row 3 levels of edginess. More than likely some degenerate on the team must have convinced their retarded management that was the intention.

[J1M]

From what I understand, in the trans community you are viewed as a snob/outcast if you aren't willing to finance your transition with sex work.

So that baggage is essentially priced-in if management decides it wants a trans performer.