Fallout: New Vegas

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Why are you guys like this game so much? It criticizes, mocks, and ridicules American society, your beloved capitalism, and the USA in general.

House is canonically the good guy.

Fallout Nev Vegas didn't get a sequel, where is the canonicity information from and where it is playing any role?

[rusty_shackleford]

Why are you guys like this game so much? It criticizes, mocks, and ridicules American society, your beloved capitalism, and the USA in general.

House is canonically the good guy.

Fallout Nev Vegas didn't get a sequel, where is the canonicity information from and where it is playing any role?

It came to me in a dream.

[Faceless_Sentinel]

House is canonically the good guy.

Fallout Nev Vegas didn't get a sequel, where is the canonicity information from and where it is playing any role?

It came to me in a dream.

Well, if we going down to headcanon, then in my dream independent ending is a canon, thanks Mr.House for infrastructure and robots.

[Nammu Archag]

Fallout Nev Vegas didn't get a sequel, where is the canonicity information from and where it is playing any role?

It came to me in a dream.

Well, if we going down to headcanon, then in my dream independent ending is a canon, thanks Mr.House for infrastructure and robots.

independent means nothing since every variable is interchangeable and forced. Basically just NCR victory

[Anon]

Why are you guys like this game so much? It criticizes, mocks, and ridicules American society, your beloved capitalism, and the USA in general.

House is canonically the good guy. And House is 100% american.
Sawyer knew this, it's why he made it so you have to kill the BoS to join him to make him less appealing, it originally wasn't so.

House was the incarnation of shitlibism lol. Plus if you side with him you see everybody getting fucked up by him in the post ending. Definitely not the good guy

[rusty_shackleford]

Why are you guys like this game so much? It criticizes, mocks, and ridicules American society, your beloved capitalism, and the USA in general.

House is canonically the good guy. And House is 100% american.
Sawyer knew this, it's why he made it so you have to kill the BoS to join him to make him less appealing, it originally wasn't so.

House was the incarnation of shitlibism lol. Plus if you side with him you see everybody getting fucked up by him in the post ending. Definitely not the good guy

You seem to have confused House with NCR.

[Nammu Archag]

Why are you guys like this game so much? It criticizes, mocks, and ridicules American society, your beloved capitalism, and the USA in general.

House is canonically the good guy. And House is 100% american.
Sawyer knew this, it's why he made it so you have to kill the BoS to join him to make him less appealing, it originally wasn't so.

House was the incarnation of shitlibism lol. Plus if you side with him you see everybody getting fucked up by him in the post ending. Definitely not the good guy

You sure about that?

[Anon]

House is canonically the good guy. And House is 100% american.
Sawyer knew this, it's why he made it so you have to kill the BoS to join him to make him less appealing, it originally wasn't so.

House was the incarnation of shitlibism lol. Plus if you side with him you see everybody getting fucked up by him in the post ending. Definitely not the good guy

You seem to have confused House with NCR.

NCR are like the 60s americans in my understanding.

House is canonically the good guy. And House is 100% american.
Sawyer knew this, it's why he made it so you have to kill the BoS to join him to make him less appealing, it originally wasn't so.

House was the incarnation of shitlibism lol. Plus if you side with him you see everybody getting fucked up by him in the post ending. Definitely not the good guy

You sure about that?

That's what shitlibs typically say, but for example as happens with House, once they get what they want, they basically only care about maximizing their profits and are more than willing to make everybody's lives miserable for it just because they can. His ending goes in that direction.

[rusty_shackleford]

NCR are like the 60s americans in my understanding.

NCR is basically peak corrupted libtard democracy. The game goes to great lengths to explain how NCR is controlled by brahmin barons and the elections are bought and paid for.

That's what shitlibs typically say, but for example as happens with House, once they get what they want, they basically only care about maximizing their profits and are more than willing to make everybody's lives miserable for it just because they can. His ending goes in that direction.

Most of Vegas wasn't even hit by bombs because House shielded it, it would have been completely unharmed if his package wasn't delayed. You can't just say he won't do it, because he has a track record of actually doing impressive things nobody else could do.

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The only two options worth considering are House and Legion. And House is essentially Legion+, with the added benefit of the fact that the dictator isn't going to die for a very, very long time. The legion will fall apart without Caesar.

[Nammu Archag]

That's what shitlibs typically say, but for example as happens with House, once they get what they want, they basically only care about maximizing their profits and are more than willing to make everybody's lives miserable for it just because they can. His ending goes in that direction.

If you think House gives a shit about maximizing profits (literally bottlecaps at this point btw) you didn't really pay attention. He is trying to bring about a new industrial revolution. It is not about the short-term conditions, which is what the corrupt political machines of the NCR care about to stay in office. It's about Vegas and humanity in the long run. Besides, he just doesn't interfere much with the lives of the people of Vegas beyond improving the economy and some security in Vegas proper. Living conditions are based upon the semi-autonomous communities of the area, not on House's direct interference.

[Anon]

NCR are like the 60s americans in my understanding.

NCR is basically peak corrupted libtard democracy. The game goes to great lengths to explain how NCR is controlled by brahmin barons and the elections are bought and paid for.

That's what shitlibs typically say, but for example as happens with House, once they get what they want, they basically only care about maximizing their profits and are more than willing to make everybody's lives miserable for it just because they can. His ending goes in that direction.

Most of Vegas wasn't even hit by bombs because House shielded it, it would have been completely unharmed if his package wasn't delayed. You can't just say he won't do it, because he has a track record of actually doing impressive things nobody else could do.

1- As was America in the 60s. Btw in FNV every side is corrupt and have shitty hidden agendas, that's kind of how fallout writes things.

2- He shielded Vegas to also shield himself, it doesn't mean anything by itself. But sure I agree that he does a lot of impressive things I'm not denying that. He encapsulates the inventive billionaire shitlibs like Elon Musk pretty much.

3- The truly good guys were the Legion btw, but obviously they could never depict them this way.

That's what shitlibs typically say, but for example as happens with House, once they get what they want, they basically only care about maximizing their profits and are more than willing to make everybody's lives miserable for it just because they can. His ending goes in that direction.

If you think House gives a shit about maximizing profits (literally bottlecaps at this point btw) you didn't really pay attention. He is trying to bring about a new industrial revolution. It is not about the short-term conditions, which is what the corrupt political machines of the NCR care about to stay in office. It's about Vegas and humanity in the long run. Besides, he just doesn't interfere much with the lives of the people of Vegas beyond improving the economy and some security in Vegas proper. Living conditions are based upon the semi-autonomous communities of the area, not on House's direct interference.

Yes that's his discourse, but the ending shows (in my first playthrough I chose to side with him because I believed what he said) that it was mostly a ruse and he cares mostly about being richer

[Nammu Archag]

NCR are like the 60s americans in my understanding.

NCR is basically peak corrupted libtard democracy. The game goes to great lengths to explain how NCR is controlled by brahmin barons and the elections are bought and paid for.

That's what shitlibs typically say, but for example as happens with House, once they get what they want, they basically only care about maximizing their profits and are more than willing to make everybody's lives miserable for it just because they can. His ending goes in that direction.

Most of Vegas wasn't even hit by bombs because House shielded it, it would have been completely unharmed if his package wasn't delayed. You can't just say he won't do it, because he has a track record of actually doing impressive things nobody else could do.

1- As was America in the 60s. Btw in FNV every side is corrupt and have shitty hidden agendas, that's kind of how fallout writes things.

2- He shielded Vegas to also shield himself, it doesn't mean anything by itself. But sure I agree that he does a lot of impressive things I'm not denying that. He encapsulates the inventive billionaire shitlibs like Elon Musk pretty much.

3- The truly good guys were the Legion btw, but obviously they could never depict them this way.

It's insulting to compare House to Musk. Musk is a lolbert grifter, House is a man of action and vastly more impressive in every way.

[Anon]

NCR is basically peak corrupted libtard democracy. The game goes to great lengths to explain how NCR is controlled by brahmin barons and the elections are bought and paid for.

Most of Vegas wasn't even hit by bombs because House shielded it, it would have been completely unharmed if his package wasn't delayed. You can't just say he won't do it, because he has a track record of actually doing impressive things nobody else could do.

1- As was America in the 60s. Btw in FNV every side is corrupt and have shitty hidden agendas, that's kind of how fallout writes things.

2- He shielded Vegas to also shield himself, it doesn't mean anything by itself. But sure I agree that he does a lot of impressive things I'm not denying that. He encapsulates the inventive billionaire shitlibs like Elon Musk pretty much.

3- The truly good guys were the Legion btw, but obviously they could never depict them this way.

It's insulting to compare House to Musk. Musk is a lolbert grifter, House is a man of action and vastly more impressive in every way.

His ending shows otherwise

[rusty_shackleford]

1- As was America in the 60s.

I don't quite get what point you're trying to make here. Yes, America has slowly been eroded from its original goals, mainly by turning it into a democracy that it was never intended to be. Also through the judiciary usurping power.

3- The truly good guys were the Legion btw, but obviously they could never depict them this way.

No Caesar, no legion. Even if you cure him, he's still a man.

[Nammu Archag]

Yes that's his discourse, but the ending shows (in my first playthrough I chose to side with him because I believed what he said) that it was mostly a ruse and he cares mostly about being richer

really now?

[Anon]

1- As was America in the 60s.

I don't quite get what point you're trying to make here. Yes, America has slowly been eroded from its original goals, mainly by turning it into a democracy that it was never intended to be. Also through the judiciary usurping power.

3- The truly good guys were the Legion btw, but obviously they could never depict them this way.

No Caesar, no legion. Even if you cure him, he's still a man.

It's not too deep, I only think NCR has an essence where they try to solve things in the republican way but also gets corrupted by bad actors from the inside.

Well yes that's one of the weaknesses of an authoritarian regime, he should've been more concerned about succession

[rusty_shackleford]

I only think NCR has an essence where they try to solve things in the republican way but also gets corrupted by bad actors from the inside.

NCR had two presidents over a 100 year span, the second one being the daughter of the first.

I prefer my dictators to be honest.

[Nammu Archag]

I only think NCR has an essence where they try to solve things in the republican way but also gets corrupted by bad actors from the inside.

NCR had two presidents over a 100 year span, the second one being the daughter of the first.

I prefer my dictators to be honest.

And all of its prosperity was thanks to those two monarchs. Afterwards, the brahmin barons and grifters took over and turned it into a banana republic

[Anon]

Yes that's his discourse, but the ending shows (in my first playthrough I chose to side with him because I believed what he said) that it was mostly a ruse and he cares mostly about being richer

really now?

I remembered it to be worse but maybe it was my fault for having messed up some things instead of a perfect good ending.

But even then, if you care to see well, House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum, and at worst he's keeping watch over everybody to assert his power

[rusty_shackleford]

House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum,

Average person in the Fallout universe is getting robbed, raped, and eaten by cannibal raiders. Average person in New Vegas with House in charage is safe, has somewhere to live, and food to eat.

[Oyster Sauce]

House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum,

Average person in New Vegas with House in charage is safe, has somewhere to live, and food to eat.

you can tell this is true because you don't get attacked by starving hobos every time you enter the city

[Anon]

House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum,

Average person in the Fallout universe is getting robbed, raped, and eaten by cannibal raiders. Average person in New Vegas with House in charage is safe, has somewhere to live, and food to eat.

Any other perfectly good ending goes the same way lol

[Nammu Archag]

Yes that's his discourse, but the ending shows (in my first playthrough I chose to side with him because I believed what he said) that it was mostly a ruse and he cares mostly about being richer

really now?

I remembered it to be worse but maybe it was my fault for having messed up some things instead of a perfect good ending.

But even then, if you care to see well, House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum, and at worst he's keeping watch over everybody to assert his power

Without him, Vegas would just be an irradiated shithole surrounded by cannibals and raiders. Without him, none of the communities around Vegas would have access to basic infrastructure or jobs, let alone their independence. They would either be enslaved by the Legion and then scattered in its ensuing collapse, or taxed endlessly by the NCR and forced into its crony system. Also keep in mind that the families of the strip are actually quite large and all of them have access to better amenities than most people today. And yet none of that is enough I guess.

[maidenhaver]

Why are you guys like this game so much? It criticizes, mocks, and ridicules American society, your beloved capitalism, and the USA in general.

House is canonically the good guy. And House is 100% american.
Sawyer knew this, it's why he made it so you have to kill the BoS to join him to make him less appealing, it originally wasn't so.

Even if someone doesn't agree with his philosophy, he's so steadfast in his beliefs and uncompromising in his convictions that you can't help but respect him unless you're a coon. He also embodies a lot of the old WASP values in relation to things like work ethic and the bind of his word. Probably why the soylings hate him so much and why the tv show pissed all over his legacy.

As the courier, I always fulfill my end of the contract with him because it is objectively the right thing to do

Most compelling was his plan for a future that could open the series up and get real with the setting, instead of recycling old themes and pop culture references for another 300 years. New stuff is nice.

[Anon]

really now?

I remembered it to be worse but maybe it was my fault for having messed up some things instead of a perfect good ending.

But even then, if you care to see well, House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum, and at worst he's keeping watch over everybody to assert his power

Without him, Vegas would just be an irradiated shithole surrounded by cannibals and raiders. Without him, none of the communities around Vegas would have access to basic infrastructure or jobs, let alone their independence. They would either be enslaved by the Legion and then scattered in its ensuing collapse, or taxed endlessly by the NCR and forced into its crony system. Also keep in mind that the families of the strip are actually quite large and all of them have access to better amenities than most people today. And yet none of that is enough I guess.

He's doing that because he's jockeying for power against both other parties, not out of the kindness of his heart. And the suburbs of new vegas are miserable shitholes already and he doesn't give a damn, he only cares about providing security for the richest parts

[Nammu Archag]

House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum,

Average person in the Fallout universe is getting robbed, raped, and eaten by cannibal raiders. Average person in New Vegas with House in charage is safe, has somewhere to live, and food to eat.

Any other perfectly good ending goes the same way lol

[maidenhaver]

Not all peaces are equal.

[Anon]

Average person in the Fallout universe is getting robbed, raped, and eaten by cannibal raiders. Average person in New Vegas with House in charage is safe, has somewhere to live, and food to eat.

Any other perfectly good ending goes the same way lol

Enslaving your enemies and peacefully lording the neutral parts? Such an evil dictator!!

[Nammu Archag]

I remembered it to be worse but maybe it was my fault for having messed up some things instead of a perfect good ending.

But even then, if you care to see well, House doesn't do anything to improve anyone's lives at the minimum, and at worst he's keeping watch over everybody to assert his power

Without him, Vegas would just be an irradiated shithole surrounded by cannibals and raiders. Without him, none of the communities around Vegas would have access to basic infrastructure or jobs, let alone their independence. They would either be enslaved by the Legion and then scattered in its ensuing collapse, or taxed endlessly by the NCR and forced into its crony system. Also keep in mind that the families of the strip are actually quite large and all of them have access to better amenities than most people today. And yet none of that is enough I guess.

He's doing that because he's jockeying for power against both other parties, not out of the kindness of his heart. And the suburbs of new vegas are miserable shitholes already and he doesn't give a damn, he only cares about providing security for the richest parts

Freeside is a shithole yeah, but westside and north vegas are nice places to live by wasteland standards

[rusty_shackleford]

most of new vegas is a better place to live than most of current africa.