[BG3] Immersive Aesthetics WIP

[loregamer]

Which act are you in? Kinda hope @AlbertHeinous will fix this

Unlikely, from his profile: "Last active: 09 Feb 2024, 17:01". Bad news everybody.

it's over, guess we'll have to beg OrinEsque to pick up the torch

I gotchu bros

[Faceless_Sentinel]

I gotchu bros

Please, don't get me wrong, but do you have any news on this matter? I never saw game without this mod and no alphabets mod.

[loregamer]

I gotchu bros

Please, don't get me wrong, but do you have any news on this matter? I never saw game without this mod and no alphabets mod.

I’ve decided to start a new aesthetics mod from scratch(ish). I’m currently teleporting all humanoid NPCs to myself and deciding who is getting updated. The mod will also be modular so you can tweak it how you like.



It’s Easter though so I won’t be working on it today.

[lexo1000]

That's great to hear that you work on a newer version of BBA. Do you plan to make it complementary to my Immersive Head mod? Aka not changing faces of African and Asian NPC as my mod already does the work on that part.

[Tipfy]

Didn't you planned on leaving some few humans untouched tho ? A fully clean BBA version would be nice.

[loregamer]

That's great to hear that you work on a newer version of BBA. Do you plan to make it complementary to my Immersive Head mod? Aka not changing faces of African and Asian NPC as my mod already does the work on that part.

Yep! I’ll probably still make the main file work out of the box by itself (similar to what BBA is already doing), but I was thinking of having an optional patch for restoring the original heads so that it can complement your mod.

[lexo1000]

Can I ask you which method you use for teleporting NPCs to your location?
Also tell me if you need help for creating update portraits.

[loregamer]

Can I ask you which method you use for teleporting NPCs to your location?
Also tell me if you need help for creating update portraits.

I'm using @orinEsque's schizophrenically datamined spreadsheets for the NPC UUIDs, and then I'm executing this in SE console:

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Osi.TeleportTo("UUID", GetHostCharacter(), "", 0, 0, 0, 1, 1)

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And thanks for offering to help with the portraits! I was figuring that would be the most time-consuming part of this since I haven't figured out portrait refreshing yet. I'll hit you up about that, I think.

[loregamer]

Didn't you planned on leaving some few humans untouched tho ? A fully clean BBA version would be nice.

I think lexo didn't replace all the asian & african human heads, but the Human changes from my aesthetic mods will make the NPCs white, don't worry.

[loregamer]

Sorry for the multiposting.

Going to give updates here. I'm working with some of the other modfags like @Lancaster on what the mod will be changing. If you guys have any suggestions or requests for this mod, lemme know.

[jebacdrkac]

Keep duke ravengard as a black man, its kinda hilarious that the only black parent in the game is a shit one and he stereotypically abandoned his kid

Based Larian

[SoLong]

Keep duke ravengard as a black man, its kinda hilarious that the only black parent in the game is a shit one and he stereotypically abandoned his kid

Based Larian

Orinesque's standard version leaves lore embedded NPCs alone so you might just use that one.

[FMLS]

Sorry for the multiposting.

Going to give updates here. I'm working with some of the other modfags like @Lancaster on what the mod will be changing. If you guys have any suggestions or requests for this mod, lemme know.

Could be just me, but I haaate the coifed punker haircuts Sazza and some of the goblins have. Astarion can get away with it, but Goblins should either be bald or styling their hair with mud and grease. Some of them have regular looking makeup too, which doesn't fit.

Sazza and Fezzerk

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Don't love that her hair is red either, but it wouldn't have been too hard for her to dye it. That said... goblins in BG3 all have blue/green/black face paint, and you'd imagine they'd also paint themselves red if it were available. Blue/green hombre tips for Sazza would be better than full-on red, I think (either that or no dye at all).



Eyeshadow -- I can see one or two having this, as a shitty attempt to replicate what civilized races do, but it's quite distracting (her being blonde doesn't help).

Same goes for the hideous pompadour mohawk that way too many githyanki use.

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Something like this would be sick, tho. https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/4163 has some similar styles/topknot stuff that makes sense for gith.

And here's a mustachioed bugbear, a savage killer of men, cosplaying as the monopoly guy.

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[Red7]

so no big tits mod for this fag squatted turd?

[loregamer]

Quick update on this! This has turned into a collab project with some of the other modders on the forum (And by that, I mean at this point I've done barely anything myself while the others do a bunch of data mining and research LOL). I'm gonna stop being a lazy fuck and help out again.

Nice to see this shit dying off.

Nice to see this shit dying off.

I'm pretty sure a lot of it has been incorporated into @orinEsque's mod!

Yep! a bunch of us are working together to make a better version of this

Due to me being busy with life, is gonna be aug/sep. I'll do what i can in the meantime to progress it.

@orinEsque did some scripting magic and got all the NPCs flagged who need fixing. Now, we're just strategizing on how detailed we want to be. We won't ever finish the mod if we hand pick and carefully fine-tune every NPC we have to update unfortunately. But this mod will have a lot more facial variation than BBA and more changes with intentionality behind them.

Just for funsies, I'll send all the heads that needed addressing or consideration to replace/tweak.

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Dwarf Females

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 6	DWR_F_NKD_Head_A	00ab281a-a9ca-f268-7584-4b9e6f8d61e0	9409cc14-bfec-9b63-bde4-3f45eadf95a6
	Head 7	DWR_F_NKD_Head_G	9ca722ea-abca-fed8-18bc-dfbee81f129a	9312e99b-f40a-8b5b-de56-f799e2371d49
	Head 8	DWR_F_NKD_Head_H	715eeac0-50bc-0ec3-cc38-f66d0ecfe224	003e97b2-b595-c34f-19d5-db99f009693b

Dwarf Males

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 6	DWR_M_NKD_Head_G	69fd6d41-29e4-074c-df28-b89395055f41	d181d75b-0179-2393-5bbd-c220bfb162e4

Elf - Females

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 6	ELF_F_NKD_Head_H	e0bedb85-c72e-11ef-11c9-0c2b44503581	a114262e-90de-cc53-9360-d27f9701963e
	Head 7	ELF_F_NKD_Head_A	10f2bd3d-812e-e050-b6e6-5a00ecc8f7e3	137b5984-0603-863d-4ffb-582c86c5861c
	Head 8	ELF_F_NKD_Head_G	98f9f90b-e126-97de-b3b7-9b127052fb3a	00cd877a-f1cf-1647-6656-851580578a1c

Elf - Females Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 6	ELF_FS_NKD_Head_H_Remap	d4f08d82-b649-3e2e-7780-8e6ad47208f4	1be16fc7-2c7a-d4a1-b2c5-5e4bf2afa117
TBA	Head 7	ELF_FS_NKD_Head_A_Remap	f478e805-46bb-9489-5589-ad2a5a081a38	bd410761-095c-6bbb-f037-4e11847bfab7
TBA	Head 8	ELF_FS_NKD_Head_G_Remap	c0df8f04-79bf-2465-6bb8-869b2f87308c	b2c83f86-5c32-56d8-9fb2-42f89a4ec8d9

Elf - Males

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 3	ELF_M_NKD_Head_D	dad237ce-ccf4-e389-a6f5-a494b0d742d0	9ab438f6-506b-ca37-9d11-90072662862e
	Head 6	ELF_M_NKD_Head_G	7305c80d-4cd3-98ff-5902-194e42350b1e	8942a6e2-2c6a-e756-752e-063c80a87d32
	Head 7	ELF_M_NKD_Head_H	cc17e38b-3f21-e620-1174-e787d15d1fcf	e7064a79-af2f-33ad-acb9-459da9262ac9

Elf - Males Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 3	ELF_MS_NKD_Head_D_Remap	f1cea8bc-f104-134d-79c4-1f1283c3c711	16fa886d-b145-2ab5-ad35-458739d22759
TBA	Head 6	ELF_MS_NKD_Head_G_Remap	e72b6020-382e-a9b8-c678-8bc917e47322	a9b8cc5f-e85f-367b-2ca0-0b8248bda3e2
	Head 7	ELF_MS_NKD_Head_H_Remap	f63f1fed-e011-c6d8-e204-cf37190a2c6f	04d78713-d054-e51a-f820-87dba0a58a84

Githyanki - Female

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 4	GTY_F_NKD_Head_D	164818b5-df59-1cd9-647c-8a329bbe9163	1c6cd622-9f65-3ea3-060f-09220ccb4377

Githyanki - Male

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 5	GTY_M_NKD_Head_E	6bd0e824-d475-d7ca-14c9-c6823a5b4d2e	a5966922-38f4-2e06-9142-aa5791a28295

Gnome - Female

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 3	GNO_F_NKD_Head_C	f909f3a1-f21e-3170-93ec-29d027f54206	6fc6539e-b418-0fb9-3b16-443e737f8b7b
	Head 6	GNO_F_NKD_Head_F	48ac16c1-914e-7c24-b083-a7c90a735328	ac8bc44e-c1b5-451b-8635-02ed9f8e2efa

Gnome - Male

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 3	GNO_M_NKD_Head_C	4a549c3b-ba61-5f29-0362-34a2a110dcd0	c92d175a-b240-b80c-db2f-f6f4d54ee9e4

Half-Elf - Female

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 6	HEL_F_NKD_Head_F	dacd9e05-faaf-b030-5df8-d45d4975211e	bc87de14-cc74-7b8a-f8c6-2dc95f1eecfa
	Head 7	HEL_F_NKD_Head_G	7bc7d0f1-6b09-67db-9f53-e89999467656	9c1106e1-be84-b856-e415-e67a8340296b

Half-Elf - Female Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 6	HEL_FS_NKD_Head_F_Remap	30bf6073-f22e-cb6d-6787-4271a7243f61	4968bd1a-a7e6-6599-af62-71ff73f50e15
TBA	Head 7	HEL_FS_NKD_Head_G_Remap	079e426e-ea33-5afb-fde1-8444bc970dab	562482c4-8002-dad0-670a-3aa5e1b5e85b

Half-Elf - Male

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 4	HEL_M_NKD_Head_D	faa673b5-f204-5b69-02c8-c3678ec7bd47	527e65f3-5532-c1cd-df65-fc3bc29e04f7
	Head 6	HEL_M_NKD_Head_F	3f36c196-1394-8b0a-62ae-407384cfd941	3199ede4-57c8-13a3-866d-cb12c37fc3ff

Half-Elf - Male Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 4	HEL_MS_NKD_Head_D_Remap	60c1d3b0-5263-e9fc-9d8a-56088f19a4de	52b1dc9b-302b-29bb-2b99-0b4647298c23
TBA	Head 6	HEL_MS_NKD_Head_F_Remap	2b95d50a-20ff-a1e2-f542-36d99a15c332	aa4b3468-cd18-6ac7-695c-3fab2974a64f

Halfling - Female

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 6	HFL_F_NKD_Head_F	9548dad0-a3f2-51d3-349d-193d27fa4bea	6d8b2277-30ec-0973-eb48-bed57ff1259b

Human - Female

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 2	HUM_F_NKD_Head_C	74d5042c-cc61-2e07-5969-fd305b0b8368	b665d958-d9e1-2bea-6cad-49b9b649ed6f
	Head 3	HUM_F_NKD_Head_D	675271af-039a-38fa-eee2-1f406c94bfa0	4d106fb7-716e-7a55-6b11-6a143071332a
	Head 7	HUM_F_NKD_Head_H	f55fdc9f-e741-582a-31f8-7bf80770ef36	a2f132a1-df39-55f8-b407-b861d80b4ad5
	Head 8	HUM_F_NKD_Head_I	7ea29de6-16aa-ef85-9902-68e5c1e57db7	39054016-af0a-8899-eb52-a0d4d59d2a4a
	Head 10	HUM_F_NKD_Head_K	b9db3ea5-ad5a-0c86-2c1a-7b5e08695601	72934c9a-30e2-8401-76ee-6aefbfd9a22f

Human - Female Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 2	HUM_FS_NKD_Head_C_Remap	c1e1e2c7-64e4-397d-0708-90851b72fd14	87aad912-792a-6931-7932-122645d27583
TBA	Head 3	HUM_FS_NKD_Head_D_Remap	a3bfca67-66a9-a20d-dcd7-1bd114992625	a2c5b8f1-7b07-1df2-5318-10d00e75122b
TBA	Head 7	HUM_FS_NKD_Head_H_Remap	52b82838-1cc1-7caa-8a6c-f128e222ba8b	c47ff45f-d88b-5749-b115-da371ae3015d
TBA	Head 8	HUM_FS_NKD_Head_I_Remap	8bf9f9c3-a687-f1bc-dc31-9a5408b8b951	ce445317-def2-5ab1-ac84-dbba4575c33e
TBA	Head 10	HUM_FS_NKD_Head_K_Remap	d8fa6947-8595-d6e7-ea77-ccf70e0c34cf	bdb393a4-38ac-5c6d-b9d7-2f55016cc4de

Human - Male

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 2	HUM_M_NKD_Head_B	604dc30e-76ed-4f7d-9777-6c72a814d7c4	ee876d08-c2a3-4b7f-0712-d3761e0d2d15
	Head 3	HUM_M_NKD_Head_C	5bd07e0f-bfac-568b-840c-9c5a50146648	999871ef-1438-522a-a158-7bb79b3aec3d
	Head 7	HUM_M_NKD_Head_H	7bd8480d-1e0f-cb26-a299-5e1c2386f544	a50f0999-6ad9-1983-82f7-54080879d970

Human - Male Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 2	HUM_MS_NKD_Head_B_Remap	ef4a15e0-2bd9-ee77-f3fd-832867f20c43	294984e2-f443-061c-a8ef-a80a598e7338
TBA	Head 3	HUM_MS_NKD_Head_C_Remap	db9427a7-6c81-aff6-43d1-0ebff5cc8bca	617071a7-8ec1-5613-a6ef-fcb14f316f67
TBA	Head 7	HUM_MS_NKD_Head_H_Remap	616753a1-1d1e-717a-51b0-f455b2477aeb	a42d0e99-4da4-57e7-3594-eda0d9f32748

Tiefling - Female

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 1	TIF_F_NKD_Head_A	959b33b8-5c84-4511-c4c5-1eb5f2ac65b7	95d71cc6-6bc2-fcea-489b-07f9ee3353f6
	Head 3	TIF_F_NKD_Head_C	13afbd7c-e5b0-af81-58ff-2e9745dda035	12d484de-958d-0cac-b251-fed307b4a552
	Head 4	TIF_F_NKD_Head_D	6aac7836-5879-9c6d-ef44-37e98f84a880	e8a18ef0-db4d-69d4-48e9-bccb7fa4ec37
	Head 5	TIF_F_NKD_Head_E	fdc61468-e94f-8736-d253-9baaa51b88e6	5f60b93f-0cd2-9e19-3284-09b01c38712a

Tiefling - Female Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 1	TIF_FS_NKD_Head_A_Remap	a78e944c-a549-fb96-2220-7a8b1cb700e7	8fecbfb5-403c-9ec8-6d53-66226c289029
TBA	Head 3	TIF_FS_NKD_Head_C_Remap	dd35ed91-934a-9c5b-83d1-a1ee6535d0c1	994349bf-5fbc-438b-3e1e-60d7897accee
TBA	Head 4	TIF_FS_NKD_Head_D_Remap	00562e53-14a8-69aa-bfa4-e588893192f8	30298a77-9a28-f71e-bd9f-84b26046918d
TBA	Head 5	TIF_FS_NKD_Head_E_Remap	eb5f8ae9-b887-147c-7e45-09435545e869	d191b7d4-9441-4736-19c8-a742dd4678ba

Tiefling - Male

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
	Head 1	TIF_M_NKD_Head_A	68e5edbc-f552-4100-dfdf-a6b4059c5c9e	005f3b62-a607-c505-4994-7c0aeaaf3f61
	Head 3	TIF_M_NKD_Head_C	4490e0a0-ef12-a52b-df4b-525257b150d0	b6dd37ba-0d9e-03cb-8487-f245113e82ee
	Head 5	TIF_M_NKD_Head_E	6f2032be-157a-2ee9-04cf-88b6d4d6d7fb	05a2271e-181e-f58e-2a27-6e0dce2c73a4

Tiefling - Male Strong

Image	CC Number	File Name	Visual Resource ID	Seketon Resource ID
TBA	Head 1	TIF_MS_NKD_Head_A_Remap	ae17209c-eec6-7b07-ead7-006e0795e437	054a373e-4d81-2c4c-105f-f63b4ac069e6
TBA	Head 3	TIF_MS_NKD_Head_C_Remap	d22c18aa-a172-dc14-22fd-bc05e0dc0ed4	9fd56a32-bf3a-b441-aec5-425470068a8b
TBA	Head 5	TIF_MS_NKD_Head_E_Remap	46560c3c-972d-a718-6028-95d5e9de2cdd	fe70346b-935f-8d4d-e0b1-b4a52b1eab00

[Reichspepe]

Almost perfect choices!

If I may put in some constructive criticism, the aim is do "de-californify" the game and make basically everyone caucasian, right?

With that in mind, I think the Githyanki don't need to be tweaked/replaced as well as the Tiefling Female Head 3 and Strong Head 3, I think it looks cute and not that "diverse"
The male Gnome Head 3 may just need a little nose tweak.

Additional suggestions would be:
Halfling female Head 3 needs at least tweaks if not replacement, I think.
Elf male Head 4 and Strong Head 4 need tweaks badly, I feel like they look kind of retarded and not elf-like at all. It's something with the length and width of his face in the lower part that really throws me off.

Otherwise, I'd say those are all the changes needed for this mod. Thanks to everyone involved for keeping at it with this, it's much appreciated!

And one last question, do you plan to also edit characters like Cazador, who have unique face? It's very weird how he's an asian elf vampire.

[orinEsque]

When I get around to it I'll do a script sweep for female NPCs with male hair cuts and vice versa....
Need to categorize which hair cuts are feminine, masculine, unisex first tho.

[Oyster Sauce]

Going to need you guys to pick up the pace and get this out in time for my evil playthrough, thanks.

[orinEsque]

Almost perfect choices!

If I may put in some constructive criticism, the aim is do "de-californify" the game and make basically everyone caucasian, right?

With that in mind, I think the Githyanki don't need to be tweaked/replaced as well as the Tiefling Female Head 3 and Strong Head 3, I think it looks cute and not that "diverse"
The male Gnome Head 3 may just need a little nose tweak.

Additional suggestions would be:
Halfling female Head 3 needs at least tweaks if not replacement, I think.
Elf male Head 4 and Strong Head 4 need tweaks badly, I feel like they look kind of retarded and not elf-like at all. It's something with the length and width of his face in the lower part that really throws me off.

Otherwise, I'd say those are all the changes needed for this mod. Thanks to everyone involved for keeping at it with this, it's much appreciated!

And one last question, do you plan to also edit characters like Cazador, who have unique face? It's very weird how he's an asian elf vampire.

Unique NPCs will need a dedicated mod I think. I feel like this would be a mod for more generic NPCs.

[loregamer]

This is essential to my process

[loregamer]

Made us a test room. Will have all the NPCs we've changed in it and lined up for in-game verification:

[fkirenicus]

Made us a test room. Will have all the NPCs we've changed in it and lined up for in-game verification:

Absolutely not your fault, but what is it with these 5e gnomes that look utterly mutated, with big human-big heads and small bodies and limbs, and look like they shit their pants when they are walking?
"Diversity and INCLUSION", I take it?

[SoLong]

Made us a test room. Will have all the NPCs we've changed in it and lined up for in-game verification:

Absolutely not your fault, but what is it with these 5e gnomes that look utterly mutated, with big human-big heads and small bodies and limbs, and look like they shit their pants when they are walking?
"Diversity and INCLUSION", I take it?

Yes, unironically yes.

The problem with gnomes and dwarves is that the DEI shitheads aren't willing to let them be fantasy creatures any more than they're inclined to leave the elves alone. So gnomes and dwarves are modelled after real-life dwarfs for "realism". Unfortunately IRL dwarfism leads to some unfortunate body proportions most of the time, which is what you noticed here.

[loregamer]

[Envergence]

Love the new 'do, Mr. Popo.

[KOS-MOS]

Can I ask if it may be possible to have separated files for important npcs such as Ravengard or Ketheric ? Because I already use mods to change their appearance so it would certainly conflict with yours. I hope that's not too much to ask.

[Rand]

do you plan to also edit characters like Cazador, who have unique face? It's very weird how he's an asian elf vampire.

With a Spanish name meaning "hunter".

[SoLong]

do you plan to also edit characters like Cazador, who have unique face? It's very weird how he's an asian elf vampire.

With a Spanish name meaning "hunter".

Hunter is a very fitting name considering his entire purpose in the story is hunting Astarion. Him being asian on the other hand is just odd.

He could be asian because he's apparently ancient so traveling somewhere else is certainly possible. But why the fuck not give him an asian name then?

[loregamer]

Can I ask if it may be possible to have separated files for important npcs such as Ravengard or Ketheric ? Because I already use mods to change their appearance so it would certainly conflict with yours. I hope that's not too much to ask.

I think for main NPCs, we will have those as separate modules. So no worries

[loregamer]

Head model replacements mostly wrapped up (Need to make icons)