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Capeshit aka American Weebery aka Patriotic Goyslop
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Capeshit aka American Weebery aka Patriotic Goyslop
There are a few of these jewtube shorts-making channels like Human Spider and Solid jj that satisfy me like funny papers used to.
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Capeshit doesn't resonate with me much because it's about defending ugly block cities and a corrupt modern society I don't feel is very worthy. I do like some older superhero movies like the Rocketeer, Superman, Sam Raimi's Spiderman, X-Men, but that's more because they got me invested in the characters rather than what they are supposedly fighting for.
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I've always thought the refusal of mainstream superheroes to ever kill anyone is stupid, unrealistic, and morally weak. I'm not saying they should all be The Punisher, but it's pretty absurd to imagine most heroes fighting only to subdue given the deadliness of their powers. There's also the impossibility of prisons being able to even contain the average supervillain, which of course is used on purpose to have the same antagonists recur time and time again. I'd be pretty pissed if I lived in the Marvel or DC world in which society is constantly terrorized by villains whom the heroes refuse to put down permanently.
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Comic stories suck now because most of the characters have been more than run through every possibly interesting story they could be taken to and now all you're left with is ideologically poisoned brainlets who want to "subvert" everything.
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I liked Super Friends and the X-Men. Going too far with their stories though was a mistake, its like giving the Philly Fanatic a heroic journey of personal discovery. Super heroes were at their best finding clues and stopping trains derailing.
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They didn't kill anyone because they were for children.
The worst thing to happen to comics was adult-children taking them away from children.
The worst thing to happen to comics was adult-children taking them away from children.
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Children don't have to be shielded from death and killing. By the time you can read on your own you'll be reading stuff that has both anyway.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:54They didn't kill anyone because they were for children.
The worst thing to happen to comics was adult-children taking them away from children.
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They're for 7 year olds, it's why they have pictures and very little words.WhiteShark wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:56Children don't have to be shielded from death and killing. By the time you can read on your own you'll be reading stuff that has both anyway.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:54They didn't kill anyone because they were for children.
The worst thing to happen to comics was adult-children taking them away from children.
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I could read perfectly well on my own at 7 and I was already familiar with death and killing because they are in, among other things, the Bible.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:57They're for 7 year olds, it's why they have pictures and very little words.
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But that's the classic Silver Age stuff you're thinking about, there have been plenty of capeslop comics that depict brutal combat since. Especially by non-Marvel and DC entities. Comic books are really just a storytelling medium, they aren't inherently childish or adult-oriented.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:54They didn't kill anyone because they were for children.
The worst thing to happen to comics was adult-children taking them away from children.
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Yeah, well, most 7 year olds aren't dorks.WhiteShark wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:01I could read perfectly well on my own at 7 and I was already familiar with death and killing because they are in, among other things, the Bible.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:57They're for 7 year olds, it's why they have pictures and very little words.
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Yes, comics have been shit for a long time. Since about the 80s.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:02But that's the classic Silver Age stuff you're thinking about, there have been plenty of capeslop comics that depict brutal combat since. Especially by non-Marvel and DC entities. Comic books are really just a storytelling medium, they aren't inherently childish or adult-oriented.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:54They didn't kill anyone because they were for children.
The worst thing to happen to comics was adult-children taking them away from children.
Adult-children have now done the same thing with cartoons btw.
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I think it was because news about killing was still spicy and papers didn't want comicbook man to get all the kills.
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But western comic sales are at a historic low, and weren't exactly selling by the truckloads for many decades prior. They were niche products for an increasingly niche base of readers. There's only so many times you can read a story about Batman fighting the Joker and saving the day for the 18,000th time. It's the films and other forms of entertainment that carry these brands forward and keep them relevant. In other words, people enjoy the brand and the characters more than the stories being told. Same with Star Wars, as estrogen filled as these things are nowadays there was something that attracted people initially. Nobody really cares about the comic stuff anymore, they honestly just serve as marketing material for the more popular movies.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:02Yes, comics have been shit for a long time. Since about the 80s.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:02But that's the classic Silver Age stuff you're thinking about, there have been plenty of capeslop comics that depict brutal combat since. Especially by non-Marvel and DC entities. Comic books are really just a storytelling medium, they aren't inherently childish or adult-oriented.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:54They didn't kill anyone because they were for children.
The worst thing to happen to comics was adult-children taking them away from children.
Adult-children have now done the same thing with cartoons btw.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:57They're for 7 year olds, it's why they have pictures and very little words.
Yeah not anymorevery little words.
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I think the solution is having more kids.
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KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:10But western comic sales are at a historic low, and weren't exactly selling by the truckloads for many decades prior. They were niche products for an increasingly niche base of readers. There's only so many times you can read a story about Batman fighting the Joker and saving the day for the 18,000th time. It's the films and other forms of entertainment that carry these brands forward and keep them relevant. In other words, people enjoy the brand and the characters more than the stories being told. Same with Star Wars, as estrogen filled as these things are nowadays there was something that attracted people initially. Nobody really cares about the comic stuff anymore, they honestly just serve as marketing material for the more popular movies.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:02Yes, comics have been shit for a long time. Since about the 80s.KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:02
But that's the classic Silver Age stuff you're thinking about, there have been plenty of capeslop comics that depict brutal combat since. Especially by non-Marvel and DC entities. Comic books are really just a storytelling medium, they aren't inherently childish or adult-oriented.
Adult-children have now done the same thing with cartoons btw.
Both of these are a direct result of exactly what I've been discussing.Segata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:11rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:57They're for 7 year olds, it's why they have pictures and very little words.Yeah not anymorevery little words.
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Saw this earlier and that comic reeks of it.Segata Sanshiro wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 22:11rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 3rd, 2024, 21:57They're for 7 year olds, it's why they have pictures and very little words.Yeah not anymorevery little words.
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Yeah, if your "art" requires an explanation, then it isn't art. If your explanation takes up more real estate than the (((art))), then you didn't even create anything. If you need a degree in bullshit made-up words to have any feeling or thought besides "this is what the inside of your asshole looks like," then your art is lower than vomit and weaker than a baby. This isn't gatekeeping, its just public masturbating, and those who do it and call themselves artists are a joke.
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