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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:48
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:47
Norse people drowned homosexuals in bogs... :read:
Do you have something I could read about it?
Germania - Tacitus.
Although, no intact cum was found in the asses of bodies preserved by the bogs, so 'there's no proof' they were homosexuals.
Vikings could have been raging twinks, with shieldmommies leading their diverse warbands against the oppressive Anglos-saxons.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:48
I'm curious, cause from pragmatic perspective it is kinda weird to be so interested and obsessed by something that two consenting adults do in their bedroom that doesnt involve me.

Proverbs 15:9
The Lord detests the way of the wicked, but he loves those who pursue righteousness.

Proverbs 8:13
To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.

Psalm 97:10
Let those who love the Lord hate evil, for he guards the lives of his faithful ones and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.



It is a requirement for the righteous to hate sin in all its forms. It's not enough that I don't see evil, it must be stamped out.

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Like this, but unironically.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:43
So if two Down Syndrome reproduce they won't pass on their condition??
Or are you saying that most cases are not the result of inheriting it from parents? Because I already knew that one... but yeah, it's news to me if a Down Syndrome couple doesn't produce a Down Syndrome child.
to my knowledge, Down Syndrome patients are infertile
But reading about it was never my focus, so I must admit I dont know if if its possible with a healthy parent and the patient with the least expressed Down's Syndrome
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:43
I've heard this one too, but let me put it this way: Women innately have more oestrogen but this doesn't necessarily cause a woman to find vagina or women revolting.
It's also stated that any males born to a woman subsequent to the firstborn, are going to be less masculine, and presumably more likely to be gay.

It probably does have some effect, I just think it's something more complex, not a "gay gene," no, but a set of traits that could be identified as contributing to a partial or full expression of homosexuality, but can be found in "heterosexual" or "bisexual" men too. Either way, the environmental pollutants that are impacting female/ male hormones are going to cause issues with sexuality & behaviour.

It's true that I've never seen any cases of porn causing disgust of vagina, only causing bisexuality & paedophilia.
I doubt many bisexuals would feel comfortable with imagining themselves getting romantic with an old man, or growing old with a man, especially compared to how they feel about older women.
Yeah, lesbians ruin this theory.
Like everything else
As for firsborn males - this thing is also funny to me, cause I'm a firstborn, and the least masculine out of the bunch
My younger brothers are more masculine than me

IIRC that study also states that totaling over 10,000 subjects, and a meta-analysis indicated that between 15% and 29% of gay men owe their sexual orientation to this effect
So its still 85 to 71% of gays whos expression of homosexuality in that group is not affected by it; vast majority
I'd say its not really the main factor

In fact we may never know. All the theories so far dont cover every aspect and scenario.
I'm skeptical of environmental pollutants, as we are not frogs absorbing everything through skin, food is different depending on the nation; most drastic difference is between America in Europe when the West is considered.

I still hold my argument that 5-7% are legit gay, being by Nature's Grand Design or some anomaly.
The 20% rate is mostly inflation caused by trends and vague terms.
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:43
That's exactly what the homosexuals in UK/ America kept repeating. "Slippery slop fallacy" is also another gem, yet I've witnessed the slippery slope in my life time.
In practice, there is a prioritisation, and it gets less and less subtle over time. Although this may be to do with Jews wanting suppress White families, more so than homosexuals doing what they do...
Homosexuals doing what they do is more so on the side of high-risk promiscuity, bedding a thousand+ partners, than than being lovey-dovey Fujoshi ideals. Although the image of the latter is something all homosexuals push as being the norm, even if they're banging a new guy every week, or every couple of days, actively spreading STDs & contributing to their future incontinence.

Personally, I don't even see the state's intervention with marriage as necessary for a marriage to be 'legitimate', but it's useful for the legal aspects, like you say. Nowadays those legal aspects come with more risk than benefit, for heterosexual men. Marriage is an oath first and foremost, and can be taken without state intervention or even the church. That being said, I don't really care about civil unions, it's bureaucracy. Men should have the right to declare a man as being something more than a stranger, and put them into his will, even if it's just a friend.
I personally have no idea what was happening in the US during that time, and why it was different.
I remember reading about the HIV scare pandemic, and the so called Patient 0.
A horror story, depending who wrote about it.
I certainly had shivers reading it. To me its unacceptable that the Patient 0 still participated in mass orgies despite knowing he can infect people.

Such case never happened in Poland.

Best guess is that America has much shorter history than Europe does.
From small things like leaving doors unlocked (which we never do) to differences between our left/right wings compared to American equivalents.

As for high-risk promiscuity - it can be only explained by men having higher libido than women on average
And men like risk and thrill more on average
I see no other reasons why this issue exists
Shameful it shows up in such form
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:43
I'm conflicted, because on the one hand, single fathers actually do fair a lot better than single mothers, in terms of whether their kid turns to criminality, this shows that modern women are overrated as caregivers, but on the other hand, there have been a lot of cases where homosexual couples sexually abuse kids, even selling stuff online, or offering them to their friend group. It happens at higher rates than with heterosexual couples, but in general, people who adopt, as well as step parents, tend to be more likely to abuse the children. I think what's most shocking is when it's not just a gay couple, it's a network of homosexuals, plus their close gay friends, all in on it... And it's not like it's just a one time thing.

I just have very little faith in people in general to look after kids when there is no direct blood relation, but I know they still need to be looked after. Usually kids that are orphaned come from biological parents that were awful, rather than it being like the past, where most orphans would have been orphaned through their parents unfortunate deaths. So I also always consider what the kids inherited from their parents, as well as the kind of mental baggage that may be there because of the neglect or abuse they suffered from those that abandoned them. My point is, not only is it more likely for them to be abused by fosters & fostering systems, they also tend to be more difficult to raise.
Not surprised single fathers do better
Lesbian and heterosexual relationships experience more domestic abuse than the gay ones

But, like youve said, there were those horror stories and cases of kids being sexually abused by their gay adoptive parents.
I'm aware of those rates, and my only line of defense is that gays are the minority, and those who decide to adopt kids are already minority within minority.
Which is bad in itself.

I have no other words than I condemn it.
I might hate having kids around, but I do have a heart that aches thinking of kids with no loving homes.

The thing with foster parenting might be the reason to why the issue even exists, but that doesnt change the outcome, does it?
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:43
At least you didn't say "renting out wombs & eggs seems like a good idea" or "the state should pay for a womb to be rented out for me, so I have a fair chance to reproduce just like heterosexuals."
I'm disgusted by the idea of surrogates in itself, more so by state-founded idea
Same goes for in-vitro
This is one of those cases that my mind have been changed through dialogue in circles like HQ
I used to drift between "okay with it" and "I dont give a fuck"
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 11th, 2024, 21:03
It's a tradition of mine to ask for any specific numbers or studies that would sustain the claim gays were molested and that's why they are gay.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:30
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 11th, 2024, 21:03
It's a tradition of mine to ask for any specific numbers or studies that would sustain the claim gays were molested and that's why they are gay.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
Stop ruining the thread. Also it's 20 years old, made before the American Cultural Revolution, so it's outdated and doesn't count anymore. No one would dare write it today.
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jcd wrote: February 12th, 2024, 13:55
It is a requirement for the righteous to hate sin in all its forms. It's not enough that I don't see evil, it must be stamped out.
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Like this, but unironically.
That's fair. Figured as much, quite honestly.

It's not a jab, so dont take it wrong

My pragmatism thinks of it as the evil must be stamped out within your own/my former community bound by faith.
Someone born outside of, or who left, faith is already condemned by being not part of it by said faith alone, and is not the subject of religious creeds.
Even the Bible treats people of other faiths as sinners.

1. I am the Lord thy God... thou shalt not have other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image... T
hou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.


A vegan says eating meat is unacceptable
Of course only other vegans follow it, but people who are not, or no longer are, vegan will eat their stake regardless
Vegans will see those people as heretics, and the matter of eating "meat bad" or not is fully subjective

It's not like with, example given, murder - which a crime, and sin in many religions as life is sacred.
Even Christians have in their Decalogue 5. Thou shalt not kill..
It involves taking someone's life by force, spreading pain of loss among family and friends.
An objectively evil thing
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I just see those kinds of arguments as subjective, and religious argument is the only argument I've seen so far to why "gay bad".
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What I'm trying to say is - arguments for "gay bad" I've heard so far are driven by faith or personal disgust, and nothing more objective in reasoning.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:28

Yeah, lesbians ruin this theory.
Like everything else
As for firsborn males - this thing is also funny to me, cause I'm a firstborn, and the least masculine out of the bunch
My younger brothers are more masculine than me
I'm just repeating the claims that go along with the claim that it's the result hormonal differences, they assert that firstborn males are more masculine than subsequent sons, due to the way the female body responds to the male foetus. Different parents still produce different sons. Although if it was a universal truth, then your personal experience shouldn't have happened.

Another thing: Aren't there men that take hormones to troon out but they're only interested in women? They become 'lesbians' (yeah right)

Another, another thing: Not every homosexual is the feminine type, some are burly gym maniacs full of testosterone, and besides that, testosterone decreases with age, so if it was only to do with hormones, you'd expect to see some differences with age...
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:28
In fact we may never know. All the theories so far dont cover every aspect and scenario.
I'm skeptical of environmental pollutants, as we are not frogs absorbing everything through skin, food is different depending on the nation; most drastic difference is between America in Europe when the West is considered.
It doesn't need to be absorbed through the skin when it's in the food/ water. Diet can also impact hormones, without any need for overwhelming pollutants from women's products.
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:28
I still hold my argument that 5-7% are legit gay, being by Nature's Grand Design or some anomaly.
The 20% rate is mostly inflation caused by trends and vague terms.
I agree about the 20% being overinflated, but I did say that to Rusty before you responded to me. You may be right on what you consider to be "legit gay," but people exhibiting bisexual behaviour is growing, and what if a bisexual man is not repulsed by vagina, but is actually repulsed by women due to other things like cultural/ trust issues? Wouldn't they be "legit gay" despite having an attraction to the female form or femininity?
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:28
As for high-risk promiscuity - it can be only explained by men having higher libido than women on average
And men like risk and thrill more on average
I see no other reasons why this issue exists
Shameful it shows up in such form
Can it really be just an American thing if it's pretty much the same in UK and other countries within Europe? I'd like to see studies on the matter in Asia and South America.

https://www.amazon.com/Homosexualities- ... 0671251503 This book from 1979 alleged 1/4 of homosexual had over 1000 partners...
Even if that extreme is not the case, there are many studies that show it's really up there in numbers.
It's uh... beyond average male libido, right?
A large portion of young men aren't even having sex at all.
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:28
I'm disgusted by the idea of surrogates in itself, more so by state-founded idea
Same goes for in-vitro
This is one of those cases that my mind have been changed through dialogue in circles like HQ
I used to drift between "okay with it" and "I dont give a fuck"
Interesting. :scratch:
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jcd wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:44
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:30
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 11th, 2024, 21:03
It's a tradition of mine to ask for any specific numbers or studies that would sustain the claim gays were molested and that's why they are gay.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
Stop ruining the thread. Also it's 20 years old, made before the American Cultural Revolution, so it's outdated and doesn't count anymore. No one would dare write it today.
Let me just go look for a study that you admit no one would ever publish now, just like they wouldn't publish anything explicitly confirming the realities of race & racial differences.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:57
It's not like with, example given, murder - which a crime, and sin in many religions as life is sacred.
Even Christians have in their Decalogue 5. Thou shalt not kill..
It involves taking someone's life by force, spreading pain of loss among family and friends.
An objectively evil thing
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=ISV

There are also passages regarding crime/ justice, where God commands them to kill the sexual immoral, adulterers, etc.
Men that lay with men are later clarified as being abominable. You can read the works of Philo, a Hellenised Jew, if you want more clarification of their views on homosexuality.

Just saying. It's a contradiction for God to instruct "don't ever kill" and then command them to kill people. It's more likely to mean "murder," or a secret killing of an Israelite. Whereas warfare and communal executions are out in the open, with the involvement of many, and led by authorities.
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I've seen this one before.

I wrote it off as inconclusive/dishonest.

First reason why I wrote it off it's only a short claim.
I didnt find anything more about this particular study no matter where I clicked or looked for.
Even the quote at the end is:
Suggestions for future research were offered.
The ratio of homo to hetero participants is unknown
942 is the total
Mathematically it is possible that very few homosexuals participated in it, and those homosexuals were indeed molested in the past.
Which in turn gives higher ratio
Statistics are easy to manipulate - just like with that study of risky behaviour we talked about before

Also, the sample is quite low in itself. Too low for it to be convincing.
It's like asking 4 girls if they would date a short guy, 3 of them saying "no", 1 of them saying "maybe", and releasing the study as "75% of girls wouldnt date a short man, only 25% said maybe, 0% said yes"

It's not my bias or anything, but this claim is nothing more than telling me "youre gay cause you were molested"
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 15:19
I've seen this one before.

I wrote it off as inconclusive/dishonest.

First reason why I wrote it off it's only a short claim.
I didnt find anything more about this particular study no matter where I clicked or looked for.
Even the quote at the end is:
Suggestions for future research were offered.
The ratio of homo to hetero participants is unknown
942 is the total
Mathematically it is possible that very few homosexuals participated in it, and those homosexuals were indeed molested in the past.
Which in turn gives higher ratio
Statistics are easy to manipulate - just like with that study of risky behaviour we talked about before

Also, the sample is quite low in itself. Too low for it to be convincing.
It's like asking 4 girls if they would date a short guy, 3 of them saying "no", 1 of them saying "maybe", and releasing the study as "75% of girls wouldnt date a short man, only 25% said maybe, 0% said yes"

It's not my bias or anything, but this claim is nothing more than telling me "youre gay cause you were molested"
https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1023/a:1010243318426

It is quite a small sample of people, but also mentions previous studies, which involve more people.

In Academia, such research is not allowed, it would not be funded, offered the best materials, or peer reviewed/ validated by the mainstream authorities, just like with any research that wants to look into genetic IQ or behavioural differences. If it was not an issue at all, and just a stereotype from 'irrational bigotry,' it would be easy to prove with studies, yet these studies are not done.
Even if there is a higher amount of people with it, it would necessarily be the main cause for the majority of LGB. I also expect that what contributes to LGB now is different to what contributed to it 60 years ago.

Anecdotally: My higher-education teacher freely admitted that her gay brother was molested. I can't really recall anything similar being mentioned about heterosexual/ bisexual people.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:28
to my knowledge, Down Syndrome patients are infertile
But reading about it was never my focus, so I must admit I dont know if if its possible with a healthy parent and the patient with the least expressed Down's Syndrome
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21806650/

Says the men are infertile (I didn't know that), although they don't seem to understand the mechanics behind it, so what about women? Wouldn't there be increased chance for a child of a Down Syndrome mother to have the same issue?
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 15:12
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:57
It's not like with, example given, murder - which a crime, and sin in many religions as life is sacred.
Even Christians have in their Decalogue 5. Thou shalt not kill..
It involves taking someone's life by force, spreading pain of loss among family and friends.
An objectively evil thing
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=ISV

There are also passages regarding crime/ justice, where God commands them to kill the sexual immoral, adulterers, etc.
Men that lay with men are later clarified as being abominable. You can read the works of Philo, a Hellenised Jew, if you want more clarification of their views on homosexuality.

Just saying. It's a contradiction for God to instruct "don't ever kill" and then command them to kill people. It's more likely to mean "murder," or a secret killing of an Israelite. Whereas warfare and communal executions are out in the open, with the involvement of many, and led by authorities.
I should've go for child rape as I initially planned to show my point
Unless there is some passage in the bible that deems it acceptable :notsureif:
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 16:24
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 15:12
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:57
It's not like with, example given, murder - which a crime, and sin in many religions as life is sacred.
Even Christians have in their Decalogue 5. Thou shalt not kill..
It involves taking someone's life by force, spreading pain of loss among family and friends.
An objectively evil thing
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=ISV

There are also passages regarding crime/ justice, where God commands them to kill the sexual immoral, adulterers, etc.
Men that lay with men are later clarified as being abominable. You can read the works of Philo, a Hellenised Jew, if you want more clarification of their views on homosexuality.

Just saying. It's a contradiction for God to instruct "don't ever kill" and then command them to kill people. It's more likely to mean "murder," or a secret killing of an Israelite. Whereas warfare and communal executions are out in the open, with the involvement of many, and led by authorities.
I should've go for child rape as I initially planned to show my point
Unless there is some passage in the bible that deems it acceptable :notsureif:
"I should go for the child rape" :shock:

I just don't think modern atheistic Jews should be an authority over this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo
He makes it clear that homosexuality is seen as an abomination and goes into the reasons why. Modern Kairite 'Jews' also agree on this.

Also, I've never actually seen any passages in the bible which condemn paedophilia. I mean... Mary was like... 14? When God dun did impregnated her? IDK. Not sure about that one.
Aside from that, I suspect the usual practice for Israelites was to marry the girls off when they were fertile, depending on the father's wishes, but it's really not spoken about, there's no "age of consent" in the laws.
I wouldn't trust the Talmud as an authority on the practices of people back then, but that most definitely is on the Muslim side of things.

Age of Consent doesn't come from Christianity it comes from Feminism. And even then, it's focus is on men marrying young girls, thus perpetuating patriarchy. There are many Socialists/ Communists like those in MBLA, who promote that minors can consent or revising Age of Consent, and the Alfred Kinsey/ John Money stuff also shows how ingrained promiscuous paedophilia is with the Left.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 15:32
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 15:19
I've seen this one before.

I wrote it off as inconclusive/dishonest.

First reason why I wrote it off it's only a short claim.
I didnt find anything more about this particular study no matter where I clicked or looked for.
Even the quote at the end is:
Suggestions for future research were offered.
The ratio of homo to hetero participants is unknown
942 is the total
Mathematically it is possible that very few homosexuals participated in it, and those homosexuals were indeed molested in the past.
Which in turn gives higher ratio
Statistics are easy to manipulate - just like with that study of risky behaviour we talked about before

Also, the sample is quite low in itself. Too low for it to be convincing.
It's like asking 4 girls if they would date a short guy, 3 of them saying "no", 1 of them saying "maybe", and releasing the study as "75% of girls wouldnt date a short man, only 25% said maybe, 0% said yes"

It's not my bias or anything, but this claim is nothing more than telling me "youre gay cause you were molested"
https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1023/a:1010243318426

It is quite a small sample of people, but also mentions previous studies, which involve more people.

In Academia, such research is not allowed, it would not be funded, offered the best materials, or peer reviewed/ validated by the mainstream authorities, just like with any research that wants to look into genetic IQ or behavioural differences. If it was not an issue at all, and just a stereotype from 'irrational bigotry,' it would be easy to prove with studies, yet these studies are not done.
Even if there is a higher amount of people with it, it would necessarily be the main cause for the majority of LGB. I also expect that what contributes to LGB now is different to what contributed to it 60 years ago.
Hmm, so this is the study the claim was based on.
It's much more convincing when written that way
Where did you find it? i think i have to change my methods of search
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 16:43
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 15:32
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 15:19


I've seen this one before.

I wrote it off as inconclusive/dishonest.

First reason why I wrote it off it's only a short claim.
I didnt find anything more about this particular study no matter where I clicked or looked for.
Even the quote at the end is:


The ratio of homo to hetero participants is unknown
942 is the total
Mathematically it is possible that very few homosexuals participated in it, and those homosexuals were indeed molested in the past.
Which in turn gives higher ratio
Statistics are easy to manipulate - just like with that study of risky behaviour we talked about before

Also, the sample is quite low in itself. Too low for it to be convincing.
It's like asking 4 girls if they would date a short guy, 3 of them saying "no", 1 of them saying "maybe", and releasing the study as "75% of girls wouldnt date a short man, only 25% said maybe, 0% said yes"

It's not my bias or anything, but this claim is nothing more than telling me "youre gay cause you were molested"
https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1023/a:1010243318426

It is quite a small sample of people, but also mentions previous studies, which involve more people.

In Academia, such research is not allowed, it would not be funded, offered the best materials, or peer reviewed/ validated by the mainstream authorities, just like with any research that wants to look into genetic IQ or behavioural differences. If it was not an issue at all, and just a stereotype from 'irrational bigotry,' it would be easy to prove with studies, yet these studies are not done.
Even if there is a higher amount of people with it, it would necessarily be the main cause for the majority of LGB. I also expect that what contributes to LGB now is different to what contributed to it 60 years ago.
Hmm, so this is the study the claim was based on.
It's much more convincing when written that way
Where did you find it? i think i have to change my methods of search
Uh... well...
We have our ways. :Inspector: (I bookmarked it after it was mentioned to me).
If you mean Sci-hub https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/
A lot of studies are unofficially made fully available there for the plebs.

As for your ideas regarding history. I know a lot of people tend to see things like Monotheism vs gay world, but it really isn't the case. It's surprising you didn't know about Norse Pagans.
This may be interesting: https://telegra.ph/Homosexuality-and-Pe ... ndia-10-18
It's a similar thing with Feminism, not just the LGBT, there is a fixation on Christianity/ Monotheism, when, in actuality, only a few small, insignificant tribal cultures were not patriarchal.

It's true that East Asians are gay though. For all I know, Samurai engaged in pederasty, and Chinese have a gay god. South East Asians also presumably had something going on where they made feminine boys into 'wives'.
The differences between those cases and things like crazy Nero turning his male slave into a replacement of his wife, is the level of societal normalisation.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haarmann
"Friedrich Heinrich Karl "Fritz" Haarmann (25 October 1879 – 15 April 1925) was a German serial rapist and serial killer, known as the Butcher of Hanover, the Vampire of Hanover and the Wolf Man, who committed the sexual assault, murder, mutilation and dismemberment of at least twenty-four young men and boys in the city of Hanover between 1918 and 1924."

"Haarmann was a quiet child, with few friends his own age or gender and who seldom socialized with any children outside of school with the exception of his siblings. From an early age, Haarmann's behavior was noticeably effeminate, and he was known to shun boys' activities, instead playing with his sisters' dolls[4] and dressing in their clothes."

"At age 16, Haarmann committed his first known sexual offences, all of which involved young boys whom he would lure to secluded areas—typically cellars—before proceeding to sexually abuse them."
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:59
Another, another thing: Not every homosexual is the feminine type, some are burly gym maniacs full of testosterone, and besides that, testosterone decreases with age, so if it was only to do with hormones, you'd expect to see some differences with age...
Yeah
And those bulls sweating testosterone either go for feminine guys or other bulls sweating with testosterone.
The more I think about the hormone theory out loud the less it makes sense
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:59
what if a bisexual man is not repulsed by vagina, but is actually repulsed by women due to other things like cultural/ trust issues? Wouldn't they be "legit gay" despite having an attraction to the female form or femininity?
I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest

Keep in mind it's purely anecdotal
On other websites like HQ men had told me they wish they were gay or bi, because it would be easier to find someone to love and be loved by
But they cannot force themselves to do so, so celibacy it is
Bi men, on the other hand, prefer to make relationships with other men

It breaks my heart, honestly
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 14:59
Can it really be just an American thing if it's pretty much the same in UK and other countries within Europe? I'd like to see studies on the matter in Asia and South America.

https://www.amazon.com/Homosexualities- ... 0671251503 This book from 1979 alleged 1/4 of homosexual had over 1000 partners...
Even if that extreme is not the case, there are many studies that show it's really up there in numbers.
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What the fuck? 1000 partners?
I mean, I accept the fact, on average, gays are more horny and willing than straight men but holy shit
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 16:52
As for your ideas regarding history. I know a lot of people tend to see things like Monotheism vs gay world, but it really isn't the case. It's surprising you didn't know about Norse Pagans.
This may be interesting: https://telegra.ph/Homosexuality-and-Pe ... ndia-10-18
It's a similar thing with Feminism, not just the LGBT, there is a fixation on Christianity/ Monotheism, when, in actuality, only a few small, insignificant tribal cultures were not patriarchal.
Yeah, I was thinking about the vikings and poles the whole time, my apologies :lol:
The Greeks and Romans were already debunked
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 16:30
"I should go for the child rape"

I just don't think modern atheistic Jews should be an authority over this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo
He makes it clear that homosexuality is seen as an abomination and goes into the reasons why. Modern Kairite 'Jews' also agree on this.

Also, I've never actually seen any passages in the bible which condemn paedophilia. I mean... Mary was like... 14? When God dun did impregnated her? IDK. Not sure about that one.
Aside from that, I suspect the usual practice for Israelites was to marry the girls off when they were fertile, depending on the father's wishes, but it's really not spoken about, there's no "age of consent" in the laws.
I wouldn't trust the Talmud as an authority on the practices of people back then, but that most definitely is on the Muslim side of things.

Age of Consent doesn't come from Christianity it comes from Feminism. And even then, it's focus is on men marrying young girls, thus perpetuating patriarchy. There are many Socialists/ Communists like those in MBLA, who promote that minors can consent or revising Age of Consent, and the Alfred Kinsey/ John Money stuff also shows how ingrained promiscuous paedophilia is with the Left
I wrote myself into a corner, didn't I? :headbang:
I was trying to find something that is universally evil as an example for the other part of my argument, but yet again humanity reminded me of how twisted it is

But I'm happy to have a discussion with you and JCD
With you in particular
Rarely if ever they go for this long and in such a polite manner
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Emphyrio wrote: February 12th, 2024, 17:32
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Another tranny shooter?
They popping up like shrooms after a thunderstorm since that one who's manifesto was hidden from the public
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:03
The more I think about the hormone theory out loud the less it makes sense
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:03
I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest

Keep in mind it's purely anecdotal
On other websites like HQ men had told me they wish they were gay or bi, because it would be easier to find someone to love and be loved by
But they cannot force themselves to do so, so celibacy it is
Bi men, on the other hand, prefer to make relationships with other men

It breaks my heart, honestly
:sad: Loneliness is very painful I suppose. They like the idea of a lady, but it's hard to get over the reality.

That reminds me of a recently released Fujoshi anime... "Cherry Magic: Thirty Years of Virginity can make you a Wizard?"

Heterosexual men also prefer relationships with other men. It's just a man thing. It's rare to find a woman that is as enjoyable to be around. Simps and paypigs?... uhh... well, IDK what to say about that...
Some kind of mental illness like being a cuck.
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:03
What the fuck? 1000 partners?
I mean, I accept the fact, on average, gays are more horny and willing than straight men but holy shit
It is self-reported, and probably an estimate. Also, I guess it depends on the age of those who made that claim, as to how shocking it is. I'd just say that LGB are more likely to exhibit Hypersexuality, and that's why LGBT culture in America has almost naked gay men wandering around public parades in fetish gear. The pool of people doesn't generate something that focuses on a long-term romantic or intellectual connection between two individuals. Intimacy with strangers is a totally foreign concept to me and a lot of risk-averse young men, so there's this divide where each side sees each other as totally deranged.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:05
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 16:52
As for your ideas regarding history. I know a lot of people tend to see things like Monotheism vs gay world, but it really isn't the case. It's surprising you didn't know about Norse Pagans.
This may be interesting: https://telegra.ph/Homosexuality-and-Pe ... ndia-10-18
It's a similar thing with Feminism, not just the LGBT, there is a fixation on Christianity/ Monotheism, when, in actuality, only a few small, insignificant tribal cultures were not patriarchal.
Yeah, I was thinking about the vikings and poles the whole time, my apologies :lol:
The Greeks and Romans were already debunked
The Indo-Europeans behind the Vedas were essentially Slavs. So there's a link there, although I have to admit, I don't know much about Polish history.
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ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:41
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:05
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 16:52
As for your ideas regarding history. I know a lot of people tend to see things like Monotheism vs gay world, but it really isn't the case. It's surprising you didn't know about Norse Pagans.
This may be interesting: https://telegra.ph/Homosexuality-and-Pe ... ndia-10-18
It's a similar thing with Feminism, not just the LGBT, there is a fixation on Christianity/ Monotheism, when, in actuality, only a few small, insignificant tribal cultures were not patriarchal.
Yeah, I was thinking about the vikings and poles the whole time, my apologies :lol:
The Greeks and Romans were already debunked
The Indo-Europeans behind the Vedas were essentially Slavs. So there's a link there, although I have to admit, I don't know much about Polish history.
Gonna do a deep dive later on and report back.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 19:07
ArcaneLurker wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:41
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: February 12th, 2024, 18:05


Yeah, I was thinking about the vikings and poles the whole time, my apologies :lol:
The Greeks and Romans were already debunked
The Indo-Europeans behind the Vedas were essentially Slavs. So there's a link there, although I have to admit, I don't know much about Polish history.
Gonna do a deep dive later on and report back.
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Cedric wrote: February 13th, 2024, 13:25
I wouldn't hate gays so much if it weren't for the gays.
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Cedric wrote: February 13th, 2024, 13:25
I wouldn't hate gays so much if it weren't for the gays.
Furry av is just too low hanging fruit for me to point out...
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