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Hooray: Shitty gamedevs being fired thread
I hope to God the whole Western gaming industry crashes and never rises again.
Something about child pornography on a USB stick, etc. etc.
Every time I watch this video I'm reminded of my theory that he bought Duke Nukem just so nobody could make more games in the series.Sweeper wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 12:59
Something about child pornography on a USB stick, etc. etc.
I'd settle for the current fat pink-haired lesbian developers and their orbiters being homeless and unemployed for the rest of their lives.gerey wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 12:54I hope to God the whole Western gaming industry crashes and never rises again.
The industry is, in theory, still capable of producing good games. They just don't want to because pandering to their entitled shitstain employees and sucking theis ESG overlords' dicks is easier.
Sigh.
MythForce actually has a really great artstyle. Pity that the gameplay sucks and the actual characters are the usual worthless divershitty slop.
At least is looks set to be a financial failure.
The woke mindvirus is puritanical in its nature, the values it aims to protect are diametrically opposed to the puritanism of yesteryear, sure, but it's still very puritanical.GhostCow wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 13:57Every time I watch this video I'm reminded of my theory that he bought Duke Nukem just so nobody could make more games in the series.
So I really don't see why a modern puritan like Randy would want to make a Duke Nukem game, apart from the reason you mentioned.
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Who cares? As long as they make good games, I don't care about their drama. He's one imbecile that clearly is another CEO that does very little except narcissistic bullshit.Sweeper wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 12:59
Something about child pornography on a USB stick, etc. etc.
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I care, cause I'm retarded.
They do not, and arguably they never have.As long as they make good games
Agreed.He's one imbecile that clearly in another CEO that does very little except narcissistic bullshit.
I liked Homeworld and a few of their other games. Granted, they've gone downhill, but almost all companies have.
Relic developed Homeworld 1 and 2. Gearbox had nothing to do with creating the games.
Turns out that was merely a tip of the iceberg. Watch this!
https://embracer.com/wp-content/uploads ... 231116.pdf
whopping 900 ppl.As of September 30, 2023, the restructuring program contributed to Embracer’s first ever quarter-over-quarter reduction in headcount of around 900 people, or 5 % of the workforce.
Are we in the vidya industry crash timeline?
God I hope so.
God I hope so.
This is a great site. Been reading posts here for a few weeks and finally decided to make an account.
I have to agree with Sweeper. You can see and feel the slow crash beginning to happen. AAA doesn't have the talent/skill to even hold up 15-25yr old behemoths created by competent White devs. I went back and looked at dev pics of many of the biggest games ever, and guess what? They're all White or Asian. These companies ESG'ing their way to more funding don't seem to understand they're pulling the rug out from underneath themselves. It hurts to watch as someone who loves (rather loved) gaming.
They just keep hiring women and minorities and wonder why their flagship is failing. Devs at these companies don't even understand programming on a basic level. But they're black and there are so few of them interested in our industry! So we must hire them. Can't fire incompetence either, less you open yourself up to lawsuits. The layoffs we're seeing are far past needed. I'm simultaneously hating and loving the failures of these troons. How can every major IP descend into mediocrity in less than 10 years? It's commendable how shit they all are at their jobs.
Bring on the (much needed and inevitable) crash!
I have to agree with Sweeper. You can see and feel the slow crash beginning to happen. AAA doesn't have the talent/skill to even hold up 15-25yr old behemoths created by competent White devs. I went back and looked at dev pics of many of the biggest games ever, and guess what? They're all White or Asian. These companies ESG'ing their way to more funding don't seem to understand they're pulling the rug out from underneath themselves. It hurts to watch as someone who loves (rather loved) gaming.
They just keep hiring women and minorities and wonder why their flagship is failing. Devs at these companies don't even understand programming on a basic level. But they're black and there are so few of them interested in our industry! So we must hire them. Can't fire incompetence either, less you open yourself up to lawsuits. The layoffs we're seeing are far past needed. I'm simultaneously hating and loving the failures of these troons. How can every major IP descend into mediocrity in less than 10 years? It's commendable how shit they all are at their jobs.
Bring on the (much needed and inevitable) crash!
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That's Mr. Sweeper to you, newfaggot.
I hate to be the naysayer in all this, but it's better to not get up swept by hype.Breathe wrote: ↑ November 16th, 2023, 14:53These companies ESG'ing their way to more funding don't seem to understand they're pulling the rug out from underneath themselves.
They do understand, it's just that the MBAs don't care. Their sole goal is to raise quarterly earnings as much as possible to earn their bonuses regardless of long term viability, keep doing it until the company is gutted from within, then simply peace out with their severance and go slaughter the next lamb.
And yes, many of those same MBAs are also part of the cult, or at the very least understand that their chances of getting a new, cushy job are directly tied to their displays of allegiance towards the globohomo Marxist religion.
Unshackling the position of a CEO from the fate of the company has been a disaster for businesses.
All that said, I don't think we'll be seeing a crash - gaming is too big to fail, there's too many idiot costumers that reward shoddy products and woke pandering. The new Call of Duty will make Activision a lot of money, Spiderman 2 made Insomniac and Sony a lot of money, and that's ignoring all cashcows these companies have on tap. EA will never crash so long as sportniggers keep purchasing FIFA and Madden each year, and then doubling down by buying jpegs of male athletes like the cock guzzling homosexuals they are.
Embraces and all the companies they have bought and are now in the process of downsizing is a direct result of a risky gamble that didn't pay off.
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I'm expecting a gamedev crash, not a gaming crash. Lots of jobs are moving towards being automated. If your job involved modeling the buttons on a character's shirt, you're probably the one being automated.
Seems to be moving in the way the technocrats would like. Hire only incompetents until the perception is no one can do the jobs anymore, then provide the solution: AI. We're at a point, even now, that AI could do a better job creating scripts than the idiots currently attempting to. All we need is for AI to be able to create gameplay and voila, no need for the idiots anymore. Automation commence.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 17th, 2023, 07:41I'm expecting a gamedev crash, not a gaming crash. Lots of jobs are moving towards being automated. If your job involved modeling the buttons on a character's shirt, you're probably the one being automated.
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Embracer closed Insurgency dev studio.
Never played the game, but heard it was supposed to be decent.
Never played the game, but heard it was supposed to be decent.
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oh wtf that sucks. I thought it was great, though I haven't played it in some time. Not many smaller scale mp fps left.wndrbr wrote: ↑ December 5th, 2023, 01:01Embracer closed Insurgency dev studio.
Never played the game, but heard it was supposed to be decent.
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Bungie Laying off Developers & Forced to Cutback Knitting Classes to avoid Sony taking over their company
>Sources say they were told by leaders that the current split board structure is contingent on Bungie meeting certain financial goals. If Bungie falls short of its revenue goals by too great an amount, Sony is allowed to dissolve the existing board and take full control of the company.
>Many employees understand that Bungie is struggling to meet the necessary targets to keep its last vestige of freedom.
>It was with this threat looming that Bungie leadership made the choice to lay off roughly 100 employees last month. But the cost-cutting at Bungie isn't limited to just personnel. The company has implemented numerous other cost-cutting measures recently, including a studio-wide hiring freeze, reduced travel budgets, elimination of holiday bonuses, delaying its weeklong company "Pentathalon" event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly.
>Bungie is also pausing or fully ending benefits like annual employee compensation adjustments to meet market rates and its new hire lunch program.And yearly studio performance bonuses this year will only be the contractually obligated 80% minimum, after being above 100% for good performance several previous years running.
>Employee frustration and sadness in the days and weeks following the layoffs was met with a surprising amount of indifference or even outright flippancy or hostility from management.
>Leaders had reiterated, across multiple meetings, that they couldn't guarantee there wouldn't be more layoffs, with two specifically recalling chief people officer Holly Barbacovi outright stating that layoffs were a "lever" the company would pull again.
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The reason Bungie has been milking pay pigs so aggressively with their micro transactions was so their soy ball devs could continue to knit socks and gloves instead of working.
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EDIT CORRECTION: Knitting classes were 'cutback' not cancelled. Devs can still slack off baking penis cookies and knitting socks for their 12 cats.. whew..
>Sources say they were told by leaders that the current split board structure is contingent on Bungie meeting certain financial goals. If Bungie falls short of its revenue goals by too great an amount, Sony is allowed to dissolve the existing board and take full control of the company.
>Many employees understand that Bungie is struggling to meet the necessary targets to keep its last vestige of freedom.
>It was with this threat looming that Bungie leadership made the choice to lay off roughly 100 employees last month. But the cost-cutting at Bungie isn't limited to just personnel. The company has implemented numerous other cost-cutting measures recently, including a studio-wide hiring freeze, reduced travel budgets, elimination of holiday bonuses, delaying its weeklong company "Pentathalon" event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly.
>Bungie is also pausing or fully ending benefits like annual employee compensation adjustments to meet market rates and its new hire lunch program.And yearly studio performance bonuses this year will only be the contractually obligated 80% minimum, after being above 100% for good performance several previous years running.
>Employee frustration and sadness in the days and weeks following the layoffs was met with a surprising amount of indifference or even outright flippancy or hostility from management.
>Leaders had reiterated, across multiple meetings, that they couldn't guarantee there wouldn't be more layoffs, with two specifically recalling chief people officer Holly Barbacovi outright stating that layoffs were a "lever" the company would pull again.
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The reason Bungie has been milking pay pigs so aggressively with their micro transactions was so their soy ball devs could continue to knit socks and gloves instead of working.
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EDIT CORRECTION: Knitting classes were 'cutback' not cancelled. Devs can still slack off baking penis cookies and knitting socks for their 12 cats.. whew..
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@rusty_shackleford can we create a "Hall of Shame" page where we list all these organizations on a picture collage then back link the entries to posts in this thread?
In 2 years we can have a beautiful memorial of all the shitty woke microstransaction san-fran game dev companies that have gone out of business.
In 2 years we can have a beautiful memorial of all the shitty woke microstransaction san-fran game dev companies that have gone out of business.
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Why is it so few of these “skilled industry veterans” being fired start their own indie dev crews? There’s no real regulation in the gaming industry so there is no excuse other than them being useless and deserving the boot.
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Most people that work in game dev - are not actually capable of making a game. This statement sounds like an oxymoron but it's not.Wretch wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2023, 18:35Why is it so few of these “skilled industry veterans” being fired start their own indie dev crews? There’s no real regulation in the gaming industry so there is no excuse other than them being useless and deserving the boot.
>delaying its weeklong company "Pentathalon" event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly.
I... uh... what? Why? Why is this a thing? Why do employees expect companies to organize cooking and knitting classes for them?
Yes, companies shouldn't treat their employees like soulless automatons (if they actually do their jobs at least) but what is this coddling? Since when is a company supposed to entertain its employees?
I... uh... what? Why? Why is this a thing? Why do employees expect companies to organize cooking and knitting classes for them?
Yes, companies shouldn't treat their employees like soulless automatons (if they actually do their jobs at least) but what is this coddling? Since when is a company supposed to entertain its employees?
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whySoLong wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2023, 20:15companies shouldn't treat their employees like soulless automatons
If (and that's a huge ass if) the employee does a good job with their work they should be told so. Positive reinforcement actually works. The problem is that people nowadays don't want to use negative reinforcement (the proverbial beating stick) anymore.
If someone does a shit job you should tell them why and then let them feel the consequences. (You do actually need to tell them what they did wrong though. Going "I'm not telling you what you did wrong!" is for feminists and women.)
Imagine how different workplaces would look if John White got a pat on the back on occasion and Tayshawna Nosering got ostracized so hard she quit or merged with the wallpaper.
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My favorite reward for doing my job is more money
Pizza party it is.
I'd think that's good news for the remaining employees. I've yet to meet a normal person who likes these kind of company events.SoLong wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2023, 20:15>delaying its weeklong company "Pentathalon" event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly.
It's not that employees expect these, it's that managment are vicious, amoral demons that enjoy making the workforce suffer, and these events are a legal way to maximize suffering.SoLong wrote: ↑ December 6th, 2023, 20:15Why do employees expect companies to organize cooking and knitting classes for them?