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I hope someone makes a mod which turns the protagonist into a blonde male and the mod gets popular on social media. :cool:

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rusty_shackleford wrote: January 25th, 2026, 17:39
Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 17:37
Are we doing whataboutism now?
That's not whataboutism

What other reason is there to bring it up than to say: "What about this? This is much worse so the other one should not have the same rating."

Which absolutly is whataboutism.

Maledict wrote: January 25th, 2026, 17:48
I hope someone makes a mod which turns the protagonist into a blonde male and the mod gets popular on social media. :cool:

That will very likely happen.

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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 17:49
rusty_shackleford wrote: January 25th, 2026, 17:39
Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 17:37
Are we doing whataboutism now?
That's not whataboutism
What other reason is there to bring it up than to say: "What about this? This is much worse so the other one should not have the same rating."

Which absolutly is whataboutism.
Whataboutism isn't even possible in this argument, it's an ad hominem.

I'm pointing to a game that is obviously gay and ********, and contrasting it with a typical fantasy game that is obviously not gay and ********. See @Oyster Sauce's post on the prior page.
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It is.

But that aside: The currator is not about is the game good it is about does it contain woke elements. With a female combatant this box is checked.
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:03
But that aside: The currator is not about is the game good it is about does it contain woke elements. With a female combatant this box is checked.
Then it's applied incredibly inconsistently
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For example? i do not recall giving anything a recommended when there wasnt at least one of the redeeming factors i stated present. If we are talking about the migrated list that might be i did not make those calls.
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:10
For example? i do not recall giving anything a recommended when there wasnt at least one of the redeeming factors present i stated. If we are talking about the migrated list that might be i did not make those calls.
two of the most recent recommended games are the tomb raider remastered games
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Lara Croft is clearly eyecandy. Basically the embodiment of tits and *** (well the old lara croft in the new games not so much)
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:11
Lara Croft is clearly eyecandy. Basically the embodiment of tits and ***
She's a girlboss action hero that regularly engages in combat with men, who was originally designed as a feminist icon.
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It was never the intention to create some kind of 'page 3' girl to star in Tomb Raider. The idea was to create a female character who was a heroine, you know, cool, collected, in control, that sort of thing. The problem with those other games is that the female characters are actually there for purely exploitative purposes. I know you could argue that Lara with her comic book style over-the top figure is exploitative, but I don't agree. I think it's ridiculous to say that portraying stylised people is degrading. You can represent an over the top hero figure by augmenting characteristics like a jutting jaw, wide shoulders, thin waist etc. and that is not degrading to men. It may well be a stereotype, but it seems to me that people are overanalysing this whole thing. It's pretty simple, if women in a game are only there to be the equivalent of quiz show floozies then they are being portrayed in a sexist way.
Lara Croft was made by a male feminist to increase female representation in gaming.
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Hmm? The entire marketing back then was heavily sexualized her model has very exagerated proportions clearly to appeal to the male audience.

Dude might not be happy about it but that still what it was. The "sleaziness" of the marketing is even mentioned in the interview.

Does this interview change anything about the conent though? We still have the embodiemnt of tits&*** in tight clothes as the player character

I did not play the tomb raider games personally but wasn't there even one with a shower scene in the end that got longer the better you were? I recall something like that.
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:23
Hmm? The entire marketing back then was heavily sexualized her model has very exagerated proportions clearly to appeal to the male audience.

Dude might not be happy about it but that still what it was. The "sleaziness" of the marketing is even mentioned in the interview.

Does this interview change anything about the conent though? We still have the embodiemnt of tits&*** in tight clothes as the player character

I did not play the tomb raider games personally but wasn't there even one with a shower scene in the end that got longer the better you were? I recall something like that.
The content shows her being a girlboss action hero combatant?
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We are talking about the redeeming eyecandy factor.

Would you say her model was not made to look appealing?
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:31
We are talking about the redeeming eyecandy factor.

Would you say her model was not made to look appealing?
Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:03
The currator is not about is the game good it is about does it contain woke elements. With a female combatant this box is checked.
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Oh are you one of those were have to write wall of texts everytime cause he plays the amnesia game?

I listed redeeming factors i two times and i mentioned it even on this very forum page
For example? i do not recall giving anything a recommended when there wasnt at least one of the redeeming factors i stated present.
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:36
Oh are you one of those were have to write wall of texts everytime cause he plays the amnesia game?

I listed redeeming factors i two times and i mentioned it even on this very forum page
For example? i do not recall giving anything a recommended when there wasnt at least one of the redeeming factors i stated present.
why is coomerism a redeeming factor?
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Why would it not be?
sexualizing/exploiting the female form to make more money is an action i fail to see any wokeness in.
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:41
Why would it not be?
sexualizing/exploiting the female form to make more money is an action i fail to see any wokeness in.
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You know it's a lot easier to be consistent by just saying the game isn't woke because it's not gay and ********, right?
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so should i remove every game DEI flag when you deem it not "gay and ********" how exactly is that measured?
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:52
so should i remove every game DEI flag when you deem it not "gay and ********" how exactly is that measured?
By not being gay and ********, you already made a subjective judgment with the Tomb Raider games.
There's a lot of nitpick examples I could debate to flip to not recommended that should stay recommended because they're not gay and ********.
Witcher 2 obviously isn't gay and ********, and yet…
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Obviously we can deduce it's not gay and ********, but the TV series is.
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 17:37

Are we doing whataboutism now?
Stop using libtard words.
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 18:41
Why would it not be?
sexualizing/exploiting the female form to make more money is an action i fail to see any wokeness in.
It's one of the pillars of wokeness.
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Hmm, that abomination should be mentioned in the review i need to revise that
But the currator is not: Is it gay and retared? It is: Did we detect anything woke.

A female combatant (melee of all things) does still check the mark.

You wanna make an eyecandy case for the game and more important have you played it?

It's one of the pillars of wokeness.
is it? why do they make the women fat and ugly then?
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 19:07

is it? why do they make the women fat and ugly then?
Coomerism is woke
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Do you deny there's a coomer to ****** pipeline?
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I am pretty sure that does not exist: Men like attractive women. How that would result in tr00ning out does not make sense to me no.

Also by that logic: Would that not make ugly troglodytes based and i should give this short haired medieval lesbian foid a recommended?
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 19:16
I am pretty sure that does not exist: Men like attractive women. How that would result in tr00ning out does not make sense to me no.

Also by that logic: Would that not make ugly troglodytes based and i should give this short haired medieval lesbian foid a recommended?
It absolutely does exist. You understand that trannys think they are those attractive women, right? It starts in every case with porn.

Your second point is a logic misstep. A does not equal Not A.
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We are not talking about porn here.

Also the second line was obviously me kidding.


Genuine question: If hot women bad and ugly woman bad how would you go about women in videogames?
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me standing there pointing at the "Is It Gay And ********?" test while looking at the audience
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Mordred wrote: January 25th, 2026, 19:20
We are not talking about porn here.

Also the second line was obviously me kidding.


Genuine question: If hot women bad and ugly woman bad how would you go about women in videogames?
Well, regarding point 2: I don't know you, so it was not obvious that you were kidding. There are people who would make that argument. But humorous statement acknowledged.

For the question you pose here: I don't agree with the premise. I don't think that every instance of a woman in a video game is woke. I would second rusty's recommendation to go to Oyster Sauce's post on where the line between those exists.

Woke = gay race communism exists as the best working definition for a reason.
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