Women don't mature mentally after their teens, so at least her attitude is realisticMrTwinkls wrote: β June 26th, 2025, 19:12She also supposed to be very old being immortal and **** but acts like an impulsive smarty-pants kid.Makirige wrote: β June 26th, 2025, 15:44Ewwww it wants to restore an ugly lesbianGalahadTheSeeker wrote: β June 26th, 2025, 15:26No plans to make an optional file to restore Aylin only? I'd really appreciate it.
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Id rather we went even further back, iirc in older plans Nightsong was unrelated to Selune and was Isobel's lover framed for her death, after which Kethric made her into Nightsong for Shar, as sort of forced priestess,LemonDemonGirl wrote: β June 27th, 2025, 14:37
Looks so much better than what we ending up having to deal with
Kethric immortality was most likely tied to resurrected Isobel which could also lead to more interesting choices aside from "Keth is dead so everyone else is happy now"
and would be better as background revealing figure for Shart, instead of "erm because im le Daugher of le Selune I just know you were supposed to be Selunite, sweaty"
The best argument of course is that she didn't look like anything like Dame "Grug Smash" Aylin

Not sure if it's one of these mods or Realms Restored causing this issue, but all of the voices in the character creator are the same voice (Male 1) in my game. Any idea what might be causing this?
Are you using any other voice mods?Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 05:29Not sure if it's one of these mods or Realms Restored causing this issue, but all of the voices in the character creator are the same voice (Male 1) in my game. Any idea what might be causing this?
These are the voice-related mods I am using:Lancaster wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 06:27Are you using any other voice mods?Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 05:29Not sure if it's one of these mods or Realms Restored causing this issue, but all of the voices in the character creator are the same voice (Male 1) in my game. Any idea what might be causing this?
Realms Restored - Voice
No Alphabets - Voice and Lingo
Raphael Narrator and No Alphabets Compatibility
And your BG Legacy Voice for Wyll - Cernd
I'm altering the load order slightly to see if that fixes it. If that fails, then I'll remove some off-site mods to see if they are the problem.
Found the culprit.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 13:54These are the voice-related mods I am using:Lancaster wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 06:27Are you using any other voice mods?Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 05:29Not sure if it's one of these mods or Realms Restored causing this issue, but all of the voices in the character creator are the same voice (Male 1) in my game. Any idea what might be causing this?
Realms Restored - Voice
No Alphabets - Voice and Lingo
Raphael Narrator and No Alphabets Compatibility
And your BG Legacy Voice for Wyll - Cernd
I'm altering the load order slightly to see if that fixes it. If that fails, then I'll remove some off-site mods to see if they are the problem.![]()
It's the No Alphabets optional mod, 'CCreator - Removes alphabetism from the the character creator'. Removed that from the load order and voices have returned to normal. It's only for the character creator so I can live without it.
You're very tolerant. I find the character creation editor to be the most disgusting, repulsive, woke-idiotic, and laughable part of the game. Especially "identity", "body type" and default ******* presets for human. I also had to disable the alphabet ΡΡ module due to bugs and mod incompatibilities, and I was simply appalled by how disgusting it is; even entering that editor worsens my experience.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 15:36It's only for the character creator so I can live without it.
Bro, I hear you. I'm using all these great mods to get rid of all that woke ****.Trickster wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 15:44You're very tolerant. I find the character creation editor to be the most disgusting, repulsive, woke-idiotic, and laughable part of the game. Especially "identity", "body type" and default ******* presets for human. I also had to disable the alphabet ΡΡ module due to bugs and mod incompatibilities, and I was simply appalled by how disgusting it is; even entering that editor worsens my experience.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 15:36It's only for the character creator so I can live without it.
Have you tried using PlusUI instead? Should contain the proper changes while being more compatible.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 15:36Found the culprit.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 13:54These are the voice-related mods I am using:
Realms Restored - Voice
No Alphabets - Voice and Lingo
Raphael Narrator and No Alphabets Compatibility
And your BG Legacy Voice for Wyll - Cernd
I'm altering the load order slightly to see if that fixes it. If that fails, then I'll remove some off-site mods to see if they are the problem.![]()
It's the No Alphabets optional mod, 'CCreator - Removes alphabetism from the the character creator'. Removed that from the load order and voices have returned to normal. It's only for the character creator so I can live without it.
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That could work. I'll give it a go.Brother Michael wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 14:01Have you tried using PlusUI instead? Should contain the proper changes while being more compatible.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 15:36Found the culprit.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 13:54
These are the voice-related mods I am using:
Realms Restored - Voice
No Alphabets - Voice and Lingo
Raphael Narrator and No Alphabets Compatibility
And your BG Legacy Voice for Wyll - Cernd
I'm altering the load order slightly to see if that fixes it. If that fails, then I'll remove some off-site mods to see if they are the problem.![]()
It's the No Alphabets optional mod, 'CCreator - Removes alphabetism from the the character creator'. Removed that from the load order and voices have returned to normal. It's only for the character creator so I can live without it.
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Nocturne sounds very gay as a man. And his voice is weird, is that the original or was it remade?
It's the VA crappy accentswbgtoc wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 18:48Nocturne sounds very gay as a man. And his voice is weird, is that the original or was it remade?
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I also had the problem with NA CC addon breaking voices in creationBhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 14:30That could work. I'll give it a go.Brother Michael wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 14:01Have you tried using PlusUI instead? Should contain the proper changes while being more compatible.Bhaalspawn Jr wrote: β July 30th, 2025, 15:36
Found the culprit.
It's the No Alphabets optional mod, 'CCreator - Removes alphabetism from the the character creator'. Removed that from the load order and voices have returned to normal. It's only for the character creator so I can live without it.
viewtopic.php?t=2555
Tried out the "PlusUI" version, now I can preview and pick voices, though its still lists all 8 voices and doesnt call voices male or female
but its at least soemthing
Is his re dub conspicuously poor in quality for you, too? Thereβs a couple of NPCs like this who could definitely use a second look, unless itβs something on my end. Itβs weird considering how well integrated the other changes are.LemonDemonGirl wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 19:58It's the VA crappy accentswbgtoc wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 18:48Nocturne sounds very gay as a man. And his voice is weird, is that the original or was it remade?
Converting a VA's voice with AI only alters the voice, not the speech patterns or the accent. So even if you used Hulk Hogan's voice, it'd be a gay version of the Hulkster.swbgtoc wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 18:48Nocturne sounds very gay as a man. And his voice is weird, is that the original or was it remade?
My problem is more that she was turned into a man instead of just removing references to her being a man in the past and giving her a more feminine voice.Lancaster wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 08:05Converting a VA's voice with AI only alters the voice, not the speech patterns or the accent. So even if you used Hulk Hogan's voice, it'd be a gay version of the Hulkster.swbgtoc wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 18:48Nocturne sounds very gay as a man. And his voice is weird, is that the original or was it remade?
I never played Act 3 without NA. If I remember correctly, there were references of lesbianism.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 08:10My problem is more that she was turned into a man instead of just removing references to her being a man in the past and giving her a more feminine voice.Lancaster wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 08:05Converting a VA's voice with AI only alters the voice, not the speech patterns or the accent. So even if you used Hulk Hogan's voice, it'd be a gay version of the Hulkster.swbgtoc wrote: β July 31st, 2025, 18:48Nocturne sounds very gay as a man. And his voice is weird, is that the original or was it remade?
Me neither but I watched a video and read the wiki and apparently she's a ***** and is voiced by a ***** youtuber. Also she says she and Shadowheart were very close and it can be understood as "more than friends" but that implication becomes stronger when a man says it. I'd rather hear it from a girl personally.Lancaster wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:04I never played Act 3 without NA. If I remember correctly, there were references of lesbianism.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 08:10My problem is more that she was turned into a man instead of just removing references to her being a man in the past and giving her a more feminine voice.Lancaster wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 08:05
Converting a VA's voice with AI only alters the voice, not the speech patterns or the accent. So even if you used Hulk Hogan's voice, it'd be a gay version of the Hulkster.
Iirc, If you give Shart the noblestalk mushroom from act 1, it's revealed that her and Nocturne were in a relationship. Yep, she was ******* a ***** before she left Baldur's Gate.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:17Me neither but I watched a video and read the wiki and apparently she's a ***** and is voiced by a ***** youtuber. Also she says she and Shadowheart were very close and it can be understood as "more than friends" but that implication becomes stronger when a man says it. I'd rather hear it from a girl personally.Lancaster wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:04I never played Act 3 without NA. If I remember correctly, there were references of lesbianism.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 08:10
My problem is more that she was turned into a man instead of just removing references to her being a man in the past and giving her a more feminine voice.
Well good thing the game bugged and wouldn't allow me to give her the Noblestalkbuttfucker 3000 wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 11:03Iirc, If you give Shart the noblestalk mushroom from act 1, it's revealed that her and Nocturne were in a relationship. Yep, she was ******* a ***** before she left Baldur's Gate.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:17Me neither but I watched a video and read the wiki and apparently she's a ***** and is voiced by a ***** youtuber. Also she says she and Shadowheart were very close and it can be understood as "more than friends" but that implication becomes stronger when a man says it. I'd rather hear it from a girl personally.Lancaster wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:04
I never played Act 3 without NA. If I remember correctly, there were references of lesbianism.
No it's not revealed.buttfucker 3000 wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 11:03Iirc, If you give Shart the noblestalk mushroom from act 1, it's revealed that her and Nocturne were in a relationship. Yep, she was ******* a ***** before she left Baldur's Gate.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:17Me neither but I watched a video and read the wiki and apparently she's a ***** and is voiced by a ***** youtuber. Also she says she and Shadowheart were very close and it can be understood as "more than friends" but that implication becomes stronger when a man says it. I'd rather hear it from a girl personally.Lancaster wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:04
I never played Act 3 without NA. If I remember correctly, there were references of lesbianism.
Noblestalk makes her remember that as an initiate she was being mocked and that she had a tiefling name Rennald.
When you meet Rennald (Nocturne is such a cringe name for a ***** even for fantasy lmao) later he explains that Shart was tortured and kept losing her memories, they fought bullies together, Shart loved animals, they had the side cave where they hid to spend time, he styled her hair the way she wanted to, and that she inspired him fight on for his "true self" and keep pretending to be female.
He will say "we were close", but I dont see reason to interpret it it otherwise since its a natural thing to say when they were the only moral support for each other in an evil cult.
And nothing else is mentioned. In fact his journal, besides ***** ramblings about self-identity specifically says "I'm lucky to have her as a friend." You'd think if they really wanted to hint at a relationship it would be easy to write something ambiguous like "im lucky we have eachother" or "im lucky she is beside me".
So no, in terms of these two, no ******* or intimacy or lesbianism is mentioned. I mean, she kept getting her memories wiped, having someone keep coming up and saying "we are actually very close" would be ****** up grounds for an intimate relationship, closer to grooming or rape. The ***** is turbo **** as it is, gaudy, annoying, ugly, pretentious and badly acted, and its disgusting that Shart is confirmed to have defended his "identity" before other Sharrans. But the game has enough woke **** as it is, we don't need to go fishing for hidden meanings "well you see it says she was bullied and he made her feel better, so it's akshual that they were ******* all the time".
It's just disgusting progressive slop. Shadowheart is a terrible follower, and the 'romance' path is a cuckold simulator.Rustle wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 12:16No it's not revealed.buttfucker 3000 wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 11:03Iirc, If you give Shart the noblestalk mushroom from act 1, it's revealed that her and Nocturne were in a relationship. Yep, she was ******* a ***** before she left Baldur's Gate.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:17
Me neither but I watched a video and read the wiki and apparently she's a ***** and is voiced by a ***** youtuber. Also she says she and Shadowheart were very close and it can be understood as "more than friends" but that implication becomes stronger when a man says it. I'd rather hear it from a girl personally.
Noblestalk makes her remember that as an initiate she was being mocked and that she had a tiefling name Rennald.
When you meet Rennald (Nocturne is such a cringe name for a ***** even for fantasy lmao) later he explains that Shart was tortured and kept losing her memories, they fought bullies together, Shart loved animals, they had the side cave where they hid to spend time, he styled her hair the way she wanted to, and that she inspired him fight on for his "true self" and keep pretending to be female.
He will say "we were close", but I dont see reason to interpret it it otherwise since its a natural thing to say when they were the only moral support for each other in an evil cult.
And nothing else is mentioned. In fact his journal, besides ***** ramblings about self-identity specifically says "I'm lucky to have her as a friend." You'd think if they really wanted to hint at a relationship it would be easy to write something ambiguous like "im lucky we have eachother" or "im lucky she is beside me".
So no, in terms of these two, no ******* or intimacy or lesbianism is mentioned. I mean, she kept getting her memories wiped, having someone keep coming up and saying "we are actually very close" would be ****** up grounds for an intimate relationship, closer to grooming or rape. The ***** is turbo **** as it is, gaudy, annoying, ugly, pretentious and badly acted, and its disgusting that Shart is confirmed to have defended his "identity" before other Sharrans. But the game has enough woke **** as it is, we don't need to go fishing for hidden meanings "well you see it says she was bullied and he made her feel better, so it's akshual that they were ******* all the time".
Better to let her die on the Nautiloid. Better still to just not play BG3.
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Rustle wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 12:16No it's not revealed.buttfucker 3000 wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 11:03Iirc, If you give Shart the noblestalk mushroom from act 1, it's revealed that her and Nocturne were in a relationship. Yep, she was ******* a ***** before she left Baldur's Gate.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:17
Me neither but I watched a video and read the wiki and apparently she's a ***** and is voiced by a ***** youtuber. Also she says she and Shadowheart were very close and it can be understood as "more than friends" but that implication becomes stronger when a man says it. I'd rather hear it from a girl personally.
Noblestalk makes her remember that as an initiate she was being mocked and that she had a tiefling name Rennald.
When you meet Rennald (Nocturne is such a cringe name for a ***** even for fantasy lmao) later he explains that Shart was tortured and kept losing her memories, they fought bullies together, Shart loved animals, they had the side cave where they hid to spend time, he styled her hair the way she wanted to, and that she inspired him fight on for his "true self" and keep pretending to be female.
He will say "we were close", but I dont see reason to interpret it it otherwise since its a natural thing to say when they were the only moral support for each other in an evil cult.
And nothing else is mentioned. In fact his journal, besides ***** ramblings about self-identity specifically says "I'm lucky to have her as a friend." You'd think if they really wanted to hint at a relationship it would be easy to write something ambiguous like "im lucky we have eachother" or "im lucky she is beside me".
So no, in terms of these two, no ******* or intimacy or lesbianism is mentioned. I mean, she kept getting her memories wiped, having someone keep coming up and saying "we are actually very close" would be ****** up grounds for an intimate relationship, closer to grooming or rape. The ***** is turbo **** as it is, gaudy, annoying, ugly, pretentious and badly acted, and its disgusting that Shart is confirmed to have defended his "identity" before other Sharrans. But the game has enough woke **** as it is, we don't need to go fishing for hidden meanings "well you see it says she was bullied and he made her feel better, so it's akshual that they were ******* all the time".
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Nocturne realizing that not even living in a realm of fantasy could make him become a real woman instead of an ugly tronRustle wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 12:16No it's not revealed.buttfucker 3000 wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 11:03Iirc, If you give Shart the noblestalk mushroom from act 1, it's revealed that her and Nocturne were in a relationship. Yep, she was ******* a ***** before she left Baldur's Gate.swbgtoc wrote: β August 1st, 2025, 09:17
Me neither but I watched a video and read the wiki and apparently she's a ***** and is voiced by a ***** youtuber. Also she says she and Shadowheart were very close and it can be understood as "more than friends" but that implication becomes stronger when a man says it. I'd rather hear it from a girl personally.
Noblestalk makes her remember that as an initiate she was being mocked and that she had a tiefling name Rennald.
When you meet Rennald (Nocturne is such a cringe name for a ***** even for fantasy lmao) later he explains that Shart was tortured and kept losing her memories, they fought bullies together, Shart loved animals, they had the side cave where they hid to spend time, he styled her hair the way she wanted to, and that she inspired him fight on for his "true self" and keep pretending to be female.
He will say "we were close", but I dont see reason to interpret it it otherwise since its a natural thing to say when they were the only moral support for each other in an evil cult.
And nothing else is mentioned. In fact his journal, besides ***** ramblings about self-identity specifically says "I'm lucky to have her as a friend." You'd think if they really wanted to hint at a relationship it would be easy to write something ambiguous like "im lucky we have eachother" or "im lucky she is beside me".
So no, in terms of these two, no ******* or intimacy or lesbianism is mentioned. I mean, she kept getting her memories wiped, having someone keep coming up and saying "we are actually very close" would be ****** up grounds for an intimate relationship, closer to grooming or rape. The ***** is turbo **** as it is, gaudy, annoying, ugly, pretentious and badly acted, and its disgusting that Shart is confirmed to have defended his "identity" before other Sharrans. But the game has enough woke **** as it is, we don't need to go fishing for hidden meanings "well you see it says she was bullied and he made her feel better, so it's akshual that they were ******* all the time".

look kinda black with those lips and nose.LemonDemonGirl wrote: β June 27th, 2025, 14:37
Looks so much better than what we ending up having to deal with
Its kinda disgusting how in almost every media i see, paladins, aasimars and angels are always depicted a *******. like this happens too often to be a coincidence. how can a monkey be even closely linked to the divine. just use them as shamans or some other jungle inspired class/depiction
Well traditionally paladins used to only be embodiments of a person that's good and pure, a man close to an angel, a humanoid nearing perfection. So of course they'll see darkies in this role.RhapsodicHotShot wrote: β August 3rd, 2025, 18:03Its kinda disgusting how in almost every media i see, paladins, aasimars and angels are always depicted a *******. like this happens too often to be a coincidence. how can a monkey be even closely linked to the divine. just use them as shamans or some other jungle inspired class/depiction
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Paladin's are the fantasy embodiment of the perfect, handsome white man. Are you surprised that they're targeted?RhapsodicHotShot wrote: β August 3rd, 2025, 18:03look kinda black with those lips and nose.
Its kinda disgusting how in almost every media i see, paladins, aasimars and angels are always depicted a *******. like this happens too often to be a coincidence. how can a monkey be even closely linked to the divine. just use them as shamans or some other jungle inspired class/depiction
Sad that I have to resort to east asian media to find them these days
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only he can get the world rid of niggadinsorinEsque wrote: β August 3rd, 2025, 19:32Paladin's are the fantasy embodiment of the perfect, handsome white man. Are you surprised that they're targeted?RhapsodicHotShot wrote: β August 3rd, 2025, 18:03look kinda black with those lips and nose.
Its kinda disgusting how in almost every media i see, paladins, aasimars and angels are always depicted a *******. like this happens too often to be a coincidence. how can a monkey be even closely linked to the divine. just use them as shamans or some other jungle inspired class/depiction
Sad that I have to resort to east asian media to find them these days![]()

I really like his face. He kinda looks at you like heβs judging you... like a dad whoβs just done with your nonsense.Mortadela_Viva wrote: β August 3rd, 2025, 19:46only he can get the world rid of niggadinsorinEsque wrote: β August 3rd, 2025, 19:32Paladin's are the fantasy embodiment of the perfect, handsome white man. Are you surprised that they're targeted?RhapsodicHotShot wrote: β August 3rd, 2025, 18:03look kinda black with those lips and nose.
Its kinda disgusting how in almost every media i see, paladins, aasimars and angels are always depicted a *******. like this happens too often to be a coincidence. how can a monkey be even closely linked to the divine. just use them as shamans or some other jungle inspired class/depiction
Sad that I have to resort to east asian media to find them these days![]()
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