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Gothic > Risen > Gothic 2 = Archolos

agreed?
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I wouldn't rate risen above Gothic 2 as the latter was way more innovative as opposed to self-plagiarism that is the former
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I guess it was, but playing them in order Risen feels like those games should be played like that.
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Only Polish people like those games.
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Where does ELEX rank?
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Gothic>Gothic 2>>>>>>>>>>>Risen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Elex, Gothic 3 and the rest
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Voted "agree" but I still think Gothic 3 is a flawed gem. Like the soundtrack and the general feel of immersion when you reach Nordmar or Varant for the first time, ****.
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I only played Elex.
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it's all overrated slavjank
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Gothic 1 > Gothic 2 > ELEX > everything else
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You forgot Arcania.
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Does ArcaniA get **** on because it isn't the second coming of Gothic? Reviews just say its boring, but then they go on to describe a game that sounds mid by modern standards.
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Arcania doesn't deserve to be considered along with the other games. Most people pretend it doesn't exist and for good reason.
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it wasn't made by Piranha Bytes.
maidenhaver wrote: September 19th, 2023, 00:43
Does ArcaniA get **** on because it isn't the second coming of Gothic? Reviews just say its boring, but then they go on to describe a game that sounds mid by modern standards.
Arcania isn't even a PB-type of game. It doesn't have the open-world (the whole game is linear trek from A to B), it doesn't have proper cities with sidequests (there are sort-of cities, but they function as a backdrop), it doesn't have day/night cycle and lacks all the typical immersive features Gothic was known for, NPCs don't have schedules, the power progression is basically non-existent since it's a linear action game. And the action isn't good, not even OK - just dumb button mashing.
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Post by rusty_shackleford »

gothic 3 with fan patches is actually pretty good, nowhere near as bad as it's regularly ranked
I need to make a guide to what patches/mods to use some day

archolos is better than anything piranha bytes made btw
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i've only played ELEX 1 but i enjoyed it.

I tried out ELEX 2 for a bit but it was TRASH.
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ELEX 2 is worse than Gothic 3 and one of the most disappointing releases all of time for me.
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Post by agentorange »

Archolos is ****. It's not a Gothic game, it's a Witcher game made in Gothic engine.

Gothic 1 > Gothic 2 > Risen > Gothic 2 with Night of the Raven
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Post by Tweed »

Gothic 1 > Gothic 2 > Archolos > Risen > ELEX > Risen 2 > Gothic 3 > Dogshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Risen 3 & ELEX II
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Risen 3 wasn't great, but come on, you can magically possess people and fly around as a parrot. That was fun.
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Post by Element »

What was wrong with elex 2?
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Tweed wrote: September 19th, 2023, 02:36
Gothic 1 > Gothic 2 > Archolos > Risen > ELEX > Risen 2 > Gothic 3 > Dogshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Risen 3 & ELEX II
This is exactly my order too. Good taste, kobold.
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Post by junior »

isn't Archolos a mod? Why do you guys list it?
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its a mod that tasteless bums decided is "as good or better than" the real gothic games so they list it alongside them as if it's a matter of fact
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For all its failings it sure as hell is more fun than ELEX and feels more put together than Risen.
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agentorange wrote: September 19th, 2023, 16:02
its a mod that tasteless bums decided is "as good or better than" the real gothic games so they list it alongside them as if it's a matter of fact
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