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wndrbr wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:36
Black/ethnic-looking NPCs not speaking with the typical nig accent is actually a good thing. If a random black guy grows up in some Russian colony, of course he's gonna speak with a russian accent.

Better writers would've explored the idea of "people of certain ethnicity being born on far away colonies and adopting foreign culture", but sadly it's Bethesda we are talking about.
There ARE no ethnic colonies, though. That's the thing.
People living in a small colony on Titan for centuries, you have an ultra black sounding black guy, some sort of latino, some indian chick, and an Irish woman, among others. There's literally no sense of community.
How the ****?
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wndrbr wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:36
Black/ethnic-looking NPCs not speaking with the typical hood accent is actually a good thing. If a random black guy grows up in some Russian colony, of course he's gonna speak with a russian accent.




Better writers would've explored the idea of "people of certain ethnicity being born on far away colonies and adopting foreign culture", but sadly it's Bethesda we are talking about.
Outposts/colonies having 10-15 people who all speak with a different accent and are of a different race has to be my biggest pet peeve.
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Fo4 had two russian bartenders who all spoke with a thick slavic accent, despite living their whole lives among americans.

Bethesda does this on purpose.
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agentorange wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 05:27
The version of the game that most people will be playing is pozzed. The game is contributing to a trend towards the further pozzification of games. You are paying pozzers.
I happened to catch The Spiffing Brit at the exact right time and scammed AMD out of a free premium key.
I didn't pay $1 for the game and frankly, I feel good about it. It's not worth my cash for a borderline product.
6/10 until the good quests run out, then 4/10 at best.

Yeah, they got paid, but it's really the crypto miners that gave AMD the cash to buy all the keys, so I don't know where to go with this now...
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wndrbr wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:46
Fo4 had two russian bartenders who all spoke with a thick slavic accent, despite living their whole lives among americans.

Bethesda does this on purpose.
Never played FO4. Have no plans to, even though I can get the whole GoG cut free now. Haven't even bothered to πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ it.
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Money doesn't matter to Microsoft, none of this is about money.
It wouldn't surprise me if the reason it was delayed was specifically to diversify the game at the behest of microsoft.
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wndrbr wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:46
Fo4 had two russian bartenders who all spoke with a thick slavic accent, despite living their whole lives among americans.

Bethesda does this on purpose.
I don't know about that one, because it really depends when you started learning English. For example, when people do not see me, they give me all sorts of accents, because it's hard to pinpoint which part of the world I come from. You can live your whole life amongst native English speakers, and still sound "funny" sometimes.

But yeah... people living in a certain place for centuries should all sound the same.

I'm not disagreeing with the initial complaint. Just with the FO remark.
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The_Mask wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:58
wndrbr wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:46
Fo4 had two russian bartenders who all spoke with a thick slavic accent, despite living their whole lives among americans.

Bethesda does this on purpose.
I don't know about that one, because it really depends when you started learning English. For example, when people do not see me, they give me all sorts of accents, because it's hard to pinpoint which part of the world I come from. You can live your whole life amongst native English speakers, and still sound "funny" sometimes.

But yeah... people living in a certain place for centuries should all sound the same.

I'm not disagreeing with the initial complaint. Just with the FO remark.
To the best of my knowledge, there's no explanation given for any form of intercontinental travel in Fallout.
Outside of things like FO3 alien dlc, that is.

People having a thick Russian accent despite being part of a local settlement is just one of those stupid "oh so whacky" things Bethesda adds that is stupid.
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The_Mask wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:58
wndrbr wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 08:46
Fo4 had two russian bartenders who all spoke with a thick slavic accent, despite living their whole lives among americans.

Bethesda does this on purpose.
I don't know about that one, because it really depends when you started learning English. For example, when people do not see me, they give me all sorts of accents, because it's hard to pinpoint which part of the world I come from. You can live your whole life amongst native English speakers, and still sound "funny" sometimes.
it's not like those two guys could've taken a plane from Fallout's version of Soviet Union. They were born in America.

It would've been a neat little piece of worldbuilding if one of them casually mentioned that they grew up in some slavic community in Brighton Beach where people kept speaking two languages for generations. But it's Bethesda, so no worldbuilding for you goy.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 09:01
People having a thick Russian accent despite being part of a local settlement is just one of those stupid "oh so whacky" things Bethesda adds that is stupid.
It's worse than that. Whatever NPCs are working in Bethesda now are not gamers and do not understand their IPs.

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At first, I thought that Microsoft took over all of these developers in order to make games that would compete with Steam or Sony, but... no. I think I'm starting to see it for what it is: Bill Gates just wanted his own propaganda outlet.

I don't think I'll pay to be drowned in propaganda, so I think I'll either sail the high seas, or wait for a freebie. Either way, I'm just sad our hobby has been perverted like this.
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At least 80% of the recruitable named crew members are female, of which more than half are some form of black female.
I've looked up lists of crew members and they're missing tons that I've found so don't take that **** as definitive.

These are your average available crew member:
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I dare you to make an uglier female character on purpose that isn't physically deformed in some way.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 12:19
At least 80% of the recruitable named crew members are female, of which more than half are some form of black female.
I've looked up lists of crew members and they're missing tons that I've found so don't take that **** as definitive.

These are your average available crew member:
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I dare you to make an uglier female character on purpose that isn't physically deformed in some way.
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continuing:
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(yes, it's a woman)

Can't find screenshots of some of the ones I want to show


I just can't play this game any longer, the ugliness is actively hurting me.
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Ugly on the outside, ugly on the inside.
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Clearly written by redditors who have never been in a real relationship. This is romcom-level cringe.
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agentorange wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 05:27
This is a good point. This has the danger of making people more complacent with companies releasing pozzed homo games, and even encouraging people to buy these games, people who might otherwise not, because of the false perception that you can change a fundamentally gay game.

"Well who cares if the game is filled with irrational amounts of africans, every character is in a gay relationship, your character is referred to by custom pronouns, and so on, we can put in our own time and effort using these corporate devices to mask these things with mods!"
Well, guess what, the game is still pozzed.

The version of the game that most people will be playing is pozzed. The game is contributing to a trend towards the further pozzification of games. You are paying pozzers.

Unpozzing these games with mods is like an indian using bleach soap to try and make their skin more white. Alter voice lines, change skin colors on models, etc. at the end of the day you are still buying (or consuming regardless of whether you paid money for it) and spending time playing a fundamentally pozzed, gay game.
This (correct) argument didn't work on the sheeple when they were conSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMing BG3, which had much more direct and deviant pozz. Why trot it out again?

The reply will always be one of, "it's a good game bro just ignore it it will go away" or "modders will fix it". Reasoned arguments based on objective morality (any objective morality, although obviously I think Christian is the correct one) have failed to reach them. I think at this point you just buy more projectile-propelling objects and get ready for when they'll be used.
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Yet 90s-00s romcoms are pretty great and no amount of youtuber opinions can change that. Its more cringe to subjectively over-analyse everything, as if you stand outside the fake-*** circus going on.
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agentorange wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 05:27
Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 04:42

It's happening whether you like it or not.. use it or don't.. but hating it won't make it go away.
"Gay sex and poz are here to stay whether you like it or not, hating it won't make it go away, better start shoving wal-mart buttplugs up your ***."
Nah.
"Maybe if I whine and ***** on a obscure forum about something - the world will change to suit my tastes"

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Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 16:34
agentorange wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 05:27
Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 04:42

It's happening whether you like it or not.. use it or don't.. but hating it won't make it go away.
"Gay sex and poz are here to stay whether you like it or not, hating it won't make it go away, better start shoving wal-mart buttplugs up your ***."
Nah.
"Maybe if I whine and ***** on a obscure forum about something - the world will change to suit my tastes"

Delusional.
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******** won because they copied celebrities going through humiliation rituals.
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Emphyrio wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 17:06
Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 16:34
agentorange wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 05:27


"Gay sex and poz are here to stay whether you like it or not, hating it won't make it go away, better start shoving wal-mart buttplugs up your ***."
Nah.
"Maybe if I whine and ***** on a obscure forum about something - the world will change to suit my tastes"

Delusional.
worked for ********
Every time AI is mentioned AgentOrange crawls out of a hole and starts moralizing to everyone.
It's like screaming in a empty room - not worth the 212 bytes it takes up in Rusty's database.

******** won because they did the opposite, they infiltrated media / communities as a janny censor board. The internet wasn't prepared for an army of jobless losers who could fill positions of power (for free) moderating the social discourse all with one single hivemind agenda.

Nexus is banning mods right now because ******** infiltrated it's moderation team, not because 3 ******** are whining in a small forum thread.
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Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 16:34
"Maybe if I whine and ***** on a obscure forum about something - the world will change to suit my tastes"

Delusional.
QED.
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Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 17:37
@rusty_shackleford do you really believe Microsoft was the source of Starfields diversity?

Bethesda today is not the same company that even released Fallout 4 in 2015.. They've almost doubled in size and if you look at their company photos.. I really don't think you can blame Microsoft for this one.

Vladimir Sall was so clearly originally a native russian. I would bet his voice actor was white.
This is one of most egregious examples of blackwashing I think I've ever seen. I just don't believe it was Microsoft that did it. Part of me actually wonders if someone did it just to **** Russians off in response to Ukraine.. that's extremely reductive and childish.. but I can picture a little handlebar moustached ****** actually thinking that way.
He looks Slavic to me, I don't get the big deal over it.
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Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 17:24
Emphyrio wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 17:06
Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 16:34


"Maybe if I whine and ***** on a obscure forum about something - the world will change to suit my tastes"

Delusional.
worked for ********
Every time AI is mentioned AgentOrange crawls out of a hole and starts moralizing to everyone.
It's like screaming in a empty room - not worth the 212 bytes it takes up in Rusty's database.

******** won because they did the opposite, they infiltrated media / communities as a janny censor board. The internet wasn't prepared for an army of jobless losers who could fill positions of power (for free) moderating the social discourse all with one single hivemind agenda.

Nexus is banning mods right now because ******** infiltrated it's moderation team, not because 3 ******** are whining in a small forum thread.
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Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 17:24
Nexus is banning mods right now because ******** infiltrated it's moderation team, not because 3 ******** are whining in a small forum thread.
That, and their "allies" have infested all the British government, making ludicrous laws to support these mentally ill degenerates. And I think the main guys at Nexus are in the U.K. so they tread very carefully so as to not literally be hauled in front of a judge when some deranged **** claims he felt threatened because he was "misgendered".
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are there srsly still no functioning mirrors in skyfield?

have any of you seen this happen?

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Rand wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 18:45
Shillitron wrote: ↑ September 10th, 2023, 17:24
Nexus is banning mods right now because ******** infiltrated it's moderation team, not because 3 ******** are whining in a small forum thread.
That, and their "allies" have infested all the British government, making ludicrous laws to support these mentally ill degenerates. And I think the main guys at Nexus are in the U.K. so they tread very carefully so as to not literally be hauled in front of a judge when some deranged **** claims he felt threatened because he was "misgendered".
They need to get real jobs and close the site without telling anybody. Its the end of an era, and a real man would have sent us all a big **** you by now.
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