Star Trek TNG

[rusty_shackleford]

Elementary, My Dear Data perfectly captures why I hate TNG.
Very, very good episode… right up until Picard gets involved and does the equivalent of a fallout speech check to end the episode. This is considered the HIGHEST form of storytelling to libtards. "hehe we used our big brain superpower again!!"

[rusty_shackleford]

This is approximately what Jesus looked like btw

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[Marcus]

This is approximately what Jesus looked like btw

This guy looks like the result of a Wookie having sex with a human.

[Jordy]

This is approximately what Jesus looked like btw

He stunk of piss?

[rusty_shackleford]

just needs bluer eyes but it could have been the lighting
you guys wouldn't get it

[rusty_shackleford]

Wil Wheaton was 17 in this episode, the girl he was attracted to was played by a 26 year old woman but the character was obviously meant to be somewhere in the mid-teenage years(in human form, ofc)
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Th ... _(episode)

[logincrash]

Wil Wheaton was 17 in this episode, the girl he was attracted to was played by a 26 year old woman but the character was obviously meant to be somewhere in the mid-teenage years(in human form, ofc)
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Th ... _(episode)

LMAO
Remember that one episode with grown up Wesley where he's a tall blond Chad with a chiseled jaw? And grown up Whil Wheaton just looks like the soy-filled bitch that actually he is.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Wil Wheaton was 17 in this episode, the girl he was attracted to was played by a 26 year old woman but the character was obviously meant to be somewhere in the mid-teenage years(in human form, ofc)
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Th ... _(episode)

I think that might have been the very first episode of TNG I saw on television. I thought that they were pretty cute together but the mom/parental guardian turning into a monster and roaring with Wesley trapped in an enclosed room was frightening.

[rusty_shackleford]

Star Trek TNG's Up The Long Ladder was repugnant all the way thru.
I think the part about mandatory cucking has to be the worst, but it's a hard pick.

It's quite clear they didn't even have the situation properly explained to them, but instead enforced upon them. And the willingness to immediately engage in polygamy is ridiculous.

[Tangerine]

Star Trek TNG's Up The Long Ladder was repugnant all the way thru.
I think the part about mandatory cucking has to be the worst, but it's a hard pick.

It's quite clear they didn't even have the situation properly explained to them, but instead enforced upon them. And the willingness to immediately engage in polygamy is ridiculous.

Freelance writer Rob Bricken cited this episode as his personal choice for worst episode of the entire series, arguing "it manages to be racist, sexist, and terrible sci-fi, all at once."

Two out of three ain't bad.

[rusty_shackleford]

Star Trek TNG's Up The Long Ladder was repugnant all the way thru.
I think the part about mandatory cucking has to be the worst, but it's a hard pick.

It's quite clear they didn't even have the situation properly explained to them, but instead enforced upon them. And the willingness to immediately engage in polygamy is ridiculous.

Freelance writer Rob Bricken cited this episode as his personal choice for worst episode of the entire series, arguing "it manages to be racist, sexist, and terrible sci-fi, all at once."

Two out of three ain't bad.

Surprised he was willing to say racist since it's blatantly anti-White

[rusty_shackleford]

"starfleet is not a military organization" is horsepoop

In what way is it not a military organization? Because it's not actively being used for hostile invasion? Most militaries aren't. A significant activity of the US military in the 19th century was exploration, surveying, and mapping.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Picard had been sheltered by the a century of peace and had the fortune of being able to fly around having never seen conflict like the O'Brian and his captain who fought in the Cardassian conflict.

[rusty_shackleford]

ST TNG Who Watches the Watchers
Amazing how quick and terrible atheist "religion bad, worshipers dumb" bullshit aged. The kind of episode only a redditor would like. The kind of episode that spawned fedora redditors.

The A.V. Club gave the episode a grade A.[1]

In 2017, Den of Geek included "Who Watches the Watchers" as one of their 25 recommended episode watches of Star Trek: The Next Generation.[2] In 2019, they suggested it was one of five episodes that had a higher degree of watch repeatability, and had a focus on the character Captain Picard (played by Patrick Stewart).[3]

WIRED magazine rated "Who Watches the Watchers" as one of the best of Star Trek: The Next Generation in a 2012 review, for what it called science fiction optimism.[4] They note the title's origins in the Latin phrase, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?", attributed to Roman poet Juvenal.[4]

In 2019, Den of Geek recommended rewatching this episode as background for Star Trek: Picard.[3]

In 2020, ScreenRant noted this episode as having an important moral message.[5]

In 2021, Nerdist said this was one of the top ten Star Trek episodes with first alien contact, praising how the Enterprise D crew struggles with the prime directive as it becomes embroiled with an encounter with the pre-warp Mintakans.[6]

Yeah, I'm not surprised by any of this.


Star Trek, well known atheist show. Where Christ not only existed, but existed on multiple worlds.


Kirk: "Mankind has no need for gods. We find the One quite adequate."

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There's a certain kind of white atheist/jewish atheist view on this overall, this is the kind of material that will never be made again because it's such a product of its time. They'd get a pushback from le heckin BIPOCs if they tried to do a similar episode now, and they love worshiping niggers & mexicans more than hating religion.

e.g., Discovery far post-dating TNG:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Christianity

The largest Christian church was the Catholic Church. In the 23rd century, the abuela of Hugh Culber filled her home with religious icons from many faiths, including those from the Catholic Church. (DIS: "Jinaal")

heckin wholesome brown abuela catholic

[rusty_shackleford]

"starfleet is not a military organization" is horsepoop

In what way is it not a military organization? Because it's not actively being used for hostile invasion? Most militaries aren't. A significant activity of the US military in the 19th century was exploration, surveying, and mapping.

handful of episodes later geordi responds to a "name and rank" demand with his name and rank.
Yes, that's something non-military personnel are known to do.

[rusty_shackleford]

Cute.

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[rusty_shackleford]

Yesterday's Enterprise is the show I want to watch.

[rusty_shackleford]

TNG had some attractive women at least

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[Val the Moofia Boss]

Yesterday's Enterprise is the show I want to watch.

I liked how powerful the Romulans and the Klingons were allowed to be in that timeline, whereas in the main timeline you get the feel that they couldn't truly defeat the Federation.

[rusty_shackleford]

step 1. put transporters all over the galaxy at the maximum range between each other
step 2. instantly move from any point in the galaxy to another

???

[Val the Moofia Boss]

step 1. put transporters all over the galaxy at the maximum range between each other
step 2. instantly move from any point in the galaxy to another

???

Ships have to enter orbit over a planet to beam people to/from the surface. Since people seem to be able to beam from up on a planet to a ship or a space station that is currently orbiting on the otherside, let's be generous and say that the max transport distance is twice the diameter of the Earth. So 7,926.2 mi x 2 = 15,852.4, which means a transporter relay satellite would have to be dropped every 16,000 miles. Transporting appears to take three seconds minimum. So while going through a line of transporter relays, you would be travelling about 5284.13333 miles per second. That is 0.0017% of the speed of light. Even impulse is faster than that.

Transporters for interstellar travel might only work in the JJ Abrams movie setting, where in the first movie Spock ejected Kirk onto some random planet and warped away, and then Scotty used a transporter to beam himself and Kirk onto the (still in warp) Enterprise that was presumably lightyears away.

[rusty_shackleford]

One thing I will give it credit for is TNG had special effects years ahead of its time. Even better than most movies of its time period.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Reposting fabulous matte paintings:

Bajor from Star Trek Deep Space Nine by Robert Stromberg


Bajor from Star Trek Deep Space Nine by Robert Stromberg


Cardassia from Star Trek Deep Space Nine by Robert Stromberg


Cardassia (Robert Stromberg?)


Ferenginar Tower of Commerce by Syd Dutton


Teplan by Illusion Arts


Trill by Robert Stromberg


Star Trek The Final Frontier by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Angel I by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Angel I variant by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Angel I variant by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Angel I variant by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Angosia III by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Arkaria Base


Star Trek TNG Best of Both Worlds colony by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Best of Both Worlds colony by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Betazed by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Betazed by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Borg Cube by Albert Whitlock and Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Borg Cube by Illusion Arts


Star Trek TNG Malcor III by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Melona IV


Star Trek TNG Moab V human colony


Star Trek TNG Qo'nos The First City and the Great Hall by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Qo'nos The First City and the Great Hall by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Qo'nos The First City and the Great Hall by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Romulus by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Romulus by Syd Dutton


Star Trek TNG Starfleet Academy by Robert Stromberg


Star Trek TNG Tau Cygna by Robert Stromberg


Star Trek TNG Tau Cygna by Robert Stromberg


Star Trek TNG Turkana IV by Syd Dutton


Star Trek VOY Ocampa by Robert Stromberg


Star Trek VOY Ocampa by Robert Stromberg


Star Trek VOY Ocampa concept by Syd Dutton


Star Trek VOY Ocampa concept by Syd Dutton

Bajor looks beautiful, I wish my town looked as nice as that. I liked the hints towards traditional architecture on the Klingon worlds. The mediterranean planets they go to with the mud hut villages are also quaint.

[rusty_shackleford]

Reposting fabulous matte paintings:

I didn't learn until much later that those were all just paintings, I wondered how they did it when I was younger.

You can tell a bit more in the remasters, but at intended broadcast resolution they looked completely real. Very impressive stuff.
TOS has a lot of beautiful matte painting backgrounds too.

[rusty_shackleford]

borg are libtards
borgtards

[horstg]

borg are libtards
borgtards

"Resistance is futile! You will eat ze bugs and get vaccinated! "

[gastovski]

i prefer voyager and seven of nine

[rusty_shackleford]

Suddenly Human was awful, truly putting libtard beliefs on full display.
Family killed and child taken? Ehh… its dey cultah, just give the child back to the kidnappers.




Imagine if some durkadurka terrorists killed you and took your kid and the army recovered the kid then decided that because he's been with the durkadurkas for long enough he should just stay with them instead of giving him to his grandparents.
Libtards support this!

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They saw nothing wrong with the conclusion at all:

When this episode first aired, it generated some controversy with some fans claiming it condoned child abuse.

Michael Piller recalled, "We got some pretty angry letters on that show. They said, 'How can you let an abused child go back to the people who are abusing him?' We really brought the child abuse issue up because it was the right and natural thing to bring up in the context in the story. There are real parallels to stories that go on in today's world about parents who fight over custody and one says there's been abuse. Who do you believe? But mostly, it was a cultural clash story. It was a story of someone who was Human who had been raised in a totally alien environment. Is he Human any longer? That's really what that story was about." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages, pp. 209-210)

Rick Berman added, "We wanted to make the point that the interpretation of broken bones was nothing more than normal childhood broken bones, and that these people were sort of prejudiced in this direction. It was in no way intended to be an episode that had anything to do with child abuse. It was the Wild child. It had to do with a boy being brought from one culture to another and not fitting in with either, and the inevitable need for him to return back to the world in which he grew up." (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages, p. 210)

[rusty_shackleford]

If you are going to go through the bother of creating a videogame where you have to concept and model all of the environments and assets from scratch, then why replicate the boring mundane world that you already inhabit? Why not create something that does not exist? A fantastical that piques the imagination?

Another issue is that Western gamers seem to have an obsession with nitpicking details, that seems to drag down their enjoyment and cause negative reviews/word of mouth which in turn diminishes sales. "This isn't historically accurate!" or "Why don't they just whip out their smartphones and call for help or take a picture of the monster or this guy with superpowers and send it to the police or upload it to the internet?". Etc.

Completely disagree, one of my main issues with many Japanese games is how little they pay attention to the details.

TNG episode where time skips a day, Geordi brings up how their facial hair didn't grow.

Much of Japanese storytelling feels too intertwined with anime — cartoons, cartoon logic — itself. Things happen because the plot says so, often running on cartoon logic without questions asked. I don't like that.

[rusty_shackleford]

Much of Japanese storytelling feels too intertwined with anime — cartoons, cartoon logic — itself. Things happen because the plot says so, often running on cartoon logic without questions asked. I don't like that.

I should add that this is fine in the proper place and time, but Japanese culture feels too ouroboros. Everything they produce feels like a riff on something else from Japan. I suspect weebs consider this a desirable trait, but it most certainly isn't. To me it seems more like a stagnant pond cutoff from any streams.
Which is ironic because anime was heavily influenced by Disney, japanese art itself closely linked to French contact, etc.,

It's OK, and often good, to allow foreign cultural influences.